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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #106
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #107
RegTheDonk said:
Yes, definately the way it came across was like well, 6 people have been killed but that helps you're more funds for the police doesn't it? The girl didn't say it, but she was clearly hoping for Corbyn to mention public sector cuts.

On the other side of the coin, May has been pretty decisive outside number 10 - "enough is enough" - rather than wallow in oh its a shame, those poor people, she seems to be savvy enough to grab the situation by the nuts and give a positive response which can't hurt her stance.
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Did she say 'enough is enough'? What's that mean? Sounds like Brexit means Brexit.

Is she going to investigate funding of mosques and faith schools?

Some of the passages in the Qran are 'hate speech ' and are being interpreted by some as a call to indiscriminate murder.

This is unbelievable. It is allowed because of freedom of religion. The hate and bigotry found in holy books would not be allowed if secular people propagated it.

It is time to take away the privileges of religion. As starters their tax status. Why should these haters have tax privileges?

Where is a statement from May condemning murder justified by a wizard in the sky - apparently, according to the perpetrators -?

Their wizard is the same one as May's. They just use a different name. Maybe that's why no one in power wants to attack the belief system that encourages these things.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #108
Grendel said:
Thought she came across extremely well.
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More prime ministerial than in the rest of her campaign.
Hopefully now words will be followed by actions. Ban sharia law, end school segregation and deal with those who preach or promote hate.


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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #109
Time for a batch of home made pepper spray! Not much good against a bomb but might stop a nutter with a knife
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #110
lifeskyblue said:
More prime ministerial than in the rest of her campaign.
Hopefully now words will be followed by actions. Ban sharia law, end school segregation and deal with those who preach or promote hate.


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She counts those at the root of the issue as her friends.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #111
lifeskyblue said:
More prime ministerial than in the rest of her campaign.
Hopefully now words will be followed by actions. Ban sharia law, end school segregation and deal with those who preach or promote hate.


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And to be fair.... Start the phasing out of all faith schools and give fair warning that religious income will be taxed the same as all other incomes.

It would be great if the queen dropped the title of 'defender of the faith'. That only provokes them and legitimizes religion.

If we are to live together, then we must remove sources of discord. We cannot stop belief, but we can reduce it's power and influence.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #112
Sick Boy said:
She counts those at the root of the issue as her friends.
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Unlike Mr Corbyn of course who ALWAYS has sided with Britains enemies at home and abroad.

What would Corbyn do? Invite the perpetrators found for tea and sandwiches and say "now now don't do it again"
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #113
Life in prison for these extremists or those with extremist views

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #114
Grendel said:
Unlike Mr Corbyn of course who ALWAYS has sided with Britains enemies at home and abroad.

What would Corbyn do? Invite the perpetrators found for tea and sandwiches and say "now now don't do it again"
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This has nothing to do with Corbyn whatsoever.

Until the root of the problem is tackled, it isn't going to stop.

Fair enough if you think it is right for the government to prevent 'sensitive' information entering the public domain relating to the Saudis funding terrorism murdering people on Britain''s streets. Again, if it was Corbyn you'd be mouthing off, I'm sure.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #115
Grendel said:
Unlike Mr Corbyn of course who ALWAYS has sided with Britains enemies at home and abroad.

What would Corbyn do? Invite the perpetrators found for tea and sandwiches and say "now now don't do it again"
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He may take a stand against religion. I hope someone has the balls to admit that there isn't a wizard in the sky and start reducing the influence of religion. The Tory party led by a vicars daughter will never do that.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #116
martcov said:
He may take a stand against religion. I hope someone has the balls to admit that there isn't a wizard in the sky and start reducing the influence of religion. The Tory party led by a vicars daughter will never do that.
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Brilliant. So the uk becomes an atheist state - meanwhile Islam is practiced still all over the world but the terrorists - and will still here and achieving their objective of closing down Christianity. Smart move.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #117
Grendel said:
Brilliant. So the uk becomes an atheist state - meanwhile Islam is practiced still all over the world but the terrorists - and will still here and achieving their objective of closing down Christianity. Smart move.
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A secular state. A state which taxes religion and cannot be referred to as a crusader state trying to impose Christianity on others. It is possible to have a secular state whilst allowing religion, but not encouraging or subventioning religion.

We cannot stop the world believing in crap, but we can set ourselves apart from it.

We may even be less of a target by being religiously neutral.

I would treat all religions equally- so not destroying Christianity to replace it with another bullshit religion.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #118
clint van damme said:
the difference with the IRA and ETA and the like is they had a clear objective whether people agreed with it or not. Islamists don't seem to have a clear objective other than a hatred of Shia muslims and the west and the destruction of both.
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That doesn't alter anything regarding our dealing with the funding of them by whoever is funding them does it?

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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #119
fernandopartridge said:
Who gives a fuck? People going to Saudi funded mosques listening to wahhabist preaching are part of the problem. If they want to hear that they should go and live in Saudi where stone-aged belief is the norm.

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So we should be dealing with the wahhabist...not the mosque which is where the wider peaceful members of the community go to worship. They don't all become influenced or believe the wahhabists you know? Bit like you probably with Paul Nuttall or whoever

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Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #120
martcov said:
A secular state. A state which taxes religion and cannot be referred to as a crusader state trying to impose Christianity on others. It is possible to have a secular state whilst allowing religion, but not encouraging or subventioning religion.

We cannot stop the world believing in crap, but we can set ourselves apart from it.

We may even be less of a target by being religiously neutral.

I would treat all religions equally- so not destroying Christianity to replace it with another bullshit religion.
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We don't impose Christianity on others.

It's just another example of our soft approach to the issue. I can't pretend to have interest in religion but the country has a constitutional faith. Erode that and the terror states are starting to achieve their goals.

The indigenous faith should of course have preference and advantages. C of E schools should remain.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #121
Sick Boy said:
She is a hypocrite. She should release the recent investigation into Saudi funding of these vile twats
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But think about it...if you fully identify the paths the funds take from the beginning to the people that perpetrate these horrors - telling them openly we know who you are simply means they find an alternative route anyway. Knowing the information without publicising it means you can deal with it at various points & disrupt operations. I think they call it itelligence & spies & all that..?

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #122
Nick said:
Also, they keep going on about "dont let this affect us", "they wont win" and "stand together". Yet they circulate this



Exactly what you should be looking and thinking at when going for a beer with your mates on a Saturday night. That's showing ISIS again.
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The totty!

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #123
Grendel said:
Thought she came across extremely well.
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Excellent! So you agree dialogue is the way forward. Just like Corbyn's stance really, but you've accused him of being a terrorist sympathiser by trying to engage with them? Even knowing that the Tories did exactly that but behind closed doors.
You can't have it all ways G!

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #124
Sick Boy said:
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Yep - that stinks...definitely CENSORED

But again - we can't have it all ways. Our defence industry would suffer greatly...so would jobs, the economy & our way of life. Then the causes that SA are tending to fight in their own back yard which we approve of - we would have to send in our own people or just let them became radical extreme states.

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #125
Macca said:
Time for a batch of home made pepper spray! Not much good against a bomb but might stop a nutter with a knife
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A small pocket sized can of deodorant would do enough to permit a swift kick in the nuts. Put some under your arms too while you're at it, Smelly


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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #126
Grendel said:
Brilliant. So the uk becomes an atheist state - meanwhile Islam is practiced still all over the world but the terrorists - and will still here and achieving their objective of closing down Christianity. Smart move.
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How many so called 'Christians' would actually give a shit though?

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #127
And of course amongst all of this...Enoch Powell was lambasted for his foresight by the media & liberal leaning powers that be because they only seek power. In our democracy that only comes via the popular vote...so he was dismissed at the time as a fire of hate.
Wonder if those same people given hindsight would have been quite so quick to silence him & work against what he was trying to achieve?

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Macca

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #128
SkyblueBazza said:
A small pocket sized can of deodorant would do enough to permit a swift kick in the nuts. Put some under your arms too while you're at it, Smelly


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Disarm a terrorist and smell good? Sweeeeeeet
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #129
She is right - enough is enough.

She's had 7 years as Home Secretary and then Prime Minister - and she's failed at both to stop anything.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #130
Grendel said:
We don't impose Christianity on others.

It's just another example of our soft approach to the issue. I can't pretend to have interest in religion but the country has a constitutional faith. Erode that and the terror states are starting to achieve their goals.

The indigenous faith should of course have preference and advantages. C of E schools should remain.
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Our missionaries followed our traders all over the world and spread Christianity.

The country should dissociate itself from all faith and that means the Queen dropping the title bestowed upon Henry VIII by the pope for his help against Luther's influence.

Their goals are a theocracy. A strong secular state is the safeguard against this. Taking away all religious privileges - especially taxes - is the first step.

Our goal should be to be able to live in peace without having people tell us how to live our lives because they have read an old story book or talk to themselves on a regular basis.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #131
4 police officers injured. With the attackers wearing what appeared to be suicide vests that must mean these officers believed their lives were in grave danger yet still got right up close to them. Heroes.
 
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Macca

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #132
Multiple arrests in East London, not a huge surprise. It's about as close to an independent country as you can get there
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #133
Macca said:
Multiple arrests in East London, not a huge surprise. It's about as close to an independent country as you can get there
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How long before we hear they have been released without charge?
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #134
"Enough is enough." "Be vigilant." " The Muslim religion is a peaceful religion." Three comments we'll be hearing day in and day out now for months/years to come. The first statement needs to be defined by May as what does she mean ? The second one of be vigilant basically means don't relax, and be paranoid when you go out as anything can happen. And the third one has got me thinking : It isn't a peaceful religion at all !
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #135
SkyblueBazza said:
That doesn't alter anything regarding our dealing with the funding of them by whoever is funding them does it?

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no. I was talking about trying to negotiate with them.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #136
Well I thought May's speech this morning was poor. Tories said they were suspending campaign then she makes a highly political speech. A bit late saying we are 'too tolerant", particularly from the person who was HS for six years and PM for a year.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #137

This guy, and the one from the MET who gave her a similar message were told they were scaremongering - no doubt Corbyns fault.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #138
The Lurker said:
wtf has corbyn got to do with this?

Unity and love achieves nothing. This country is soft and easy target. too many people too scared to speak the truth. All this under the name of allah.
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Completely disagree.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #139
Grendel said:
It is damage limitation but there has to be some response

Armed police is a must

The police have to be allowed a shoot to kill policy for people acting suspiciously

Immediate ban on immigration from certain countries

More importantly an immediate ban on visiting those countries and refusal of entry back into the U.K. If this is breached unless permission is given beforehand.

If there are 23,000 suspects then immediate passport withdrawal and a blanket travel ban for them and their immediate families.
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Gosh military police state here we come!! Not in my name

And where's our shared humanity. They are fleeing what we are experiencing but they've had it far far worse!! Ffs

Shoot to kill?? Ok while it's not us they are targeting or affecting.

Travel bans are sensible and proportionate

You can't add in immediate families. Again let's stick with the rule of law.

First they came for the muslims etc etc

Change laws and act proportionately
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 4, 2017
  • #140
Sky Blue Pete said:
Completely disagree.
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What does saying love London etc do against terrorists?
 
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