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USSR invades Ukraine. (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Grendel

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  • Jun 8, 2024
  • #9,136
PVA said:
It's one of the top rated TV shows of all time, you should try it sometime.
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So if jokes are about child sex abuse it’s cool - ok
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2024
  • #9,137
Grendel said:
So if jokes are about child sex abuse it’s cool - ok
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I don't think jokes about disabled people are funny yet you seem to think it's hilarious.

Just bore off. Fucking tedious.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2024
  • #9,138
PVA said:
I don't think jokes about disabled people are funny yet you seem to think it's hilarious.

Just bore off. Fucking tedious.
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i don’t make jokes about disabled people
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 8, 2024
  • #9,139
Anyway. Moving on.

Putin Is Running Out of Time to Achieve Breakthrough in Ukraine

For months, Russia’s army has made only limited gains on the battlefield against Ukrainian troops starved of weapons and ammunition. That’s a growing challenge for President Vladimir Putin as his military’s advantage starts to erode.
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https://archive.ph/lZiMI
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 11, 2024
  • #9,140
This would be an incredible achievement if they can do it


Putin may be about to lose Crimea

The ‘unsinkable aircraft carrier’ may not be sinking – but it’s quite dangerous to be aboard
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 11, 2024
  • #9,141
PVA said:
This would be an incredible achievement if they can do it


Putin may be about to lose Crimea

The ‘unsinkable aircraft carrier’ may not be sinking – but it’s quite dangerous to be aboard
www.telegraph.co.uk
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I did see that they’ve took out Russian air defence systems overnight at three logistical points in Crimea. Seems that they’re setting up for something bigger like key infrastructure. Not sure Crimea falling is in their sights but certainly helps cutting of supply in other occupied areas of Ukraine.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 13, 2024
  • #9,142
Maybe there will be a sharp decrease in the number of people falling from high windows now there's plenty of room in the prisons?


 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2024
  • #9,143
Some clever immigrant could be making bank if the Tories pull off a shock win. £3k to go to Rwanda, then $2k to go to Ukraine, escape, rinse, repeat.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 14, 2024
  • #9,144
Armenia is to leave the CSTO and looks to be leaning towards the West and maybe even seek EU membership one day. Another strategic masterclass from Putin.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 14, 2024
  • #9,145
PVA said:
Armenia is to leave the CSTO and looks to be leaning towards the West and maybe even seek EU membership one day. Another strategic masterclass from Putin.
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There’s next to no chance of it joining the EU.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 14, 2024
  • #9,146
Sick Boy said:
There’s next to no chance of it joining the EU.
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It's very unlikely, but they do appear to be shifting to the west.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 14, 2024
  • #9,147
PVA said:
It's very unlikely, but they do appear to be shifting to the west.
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Im sure they’d like to but there’s zero chance of them joining the EU.
 
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hamertime

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  • Jun 16, 2024
  • #9,148
Russia is an embarrassment to what it used to be to be honest. It can only do local conflicts. America enjoys to watch it eat itself. The people that really run the world are the English speaking nations. America, England, Canada Australia. We love Poland too we owe those boys a lot.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2024
  • #9,149
PVA said:
It's very unlikely, but they do appear to be shifting to the west.
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No it’s not unlikely it’s never happening
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 16, 2024
  • #9,150
Grendel said:
No it’s not unlikely it’s never happening
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But they are looking to shift to the west so yet another strategic masterclass from Putin.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2024
  • #9,151
PVA said:
But they are looking to shift to the west so yet another strategic masterclass from Putin.
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I am pointing out your comment “it’s very unlikely” is a falsehood.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,152
Yet another Putin stooge calling for peace - Farage’s Ukraine comments were hardly offensive – other party leaders could use a history lesson | Nigel Farage | The Guardian
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,153
Sick Boy said:
Yet another Putin stooge calling for peace - Farage’s Ukraine comments were hardly offensive – other party leaders could use a history lesson | Nigel Farage | The Guardian
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A glorified cease fire that will just allow him time to rearm and invade to take more land.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,154
Brighton Sky Blue said:
A glorified cease fire that will just allow him time to rearm and invade to take more land.
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It would be if those doing negotiations were incompetent. The alternative is a never ending war or the west getting directly involved, which won’t end well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,155
Sick Boy said:
It would be if those doing negotiations were incompetent. The alternative is a never ending war or the west getting directly involved, which won’t end well.
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How could the negotiations avoid that outcome?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,156
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How could the negotiations avoid that outcome?
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Presumably some sort of clause that if Russia invades Ukraine it would automatically draw others into conflict.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,157
The point is that advocating for a negotiated end to the conflict needs to not be seen as some kind of extreme position.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,158
Good to see you laugh @Brighton Sky Blue - I seem to remember you were under the impression there was some kind of signed agreement after Crimea, whereas the conflict never actually stopped.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,159
Sick Boy said:
The point is that advocating for a negotiated end to the conflict needs to not be seen as some kind of extreme position.
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I understand the rationale behind it, I just think it would do nothing to prevent another invasion in the moderate term future. It would unfold not dissimilar to the Munich Agreement in my view.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,160
Sick Boy said:
Good to see you laugh @Brighton Sky Blue - I seem to remember you were under the impression there was some kind of signed agreement after Crimea, whereas the conflict never actually stopped.
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I laugh because what you’ve proposed is tantamount to Ukraine being in NATO or as good as in Putin’s eyes.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,161
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I laugh because what you’ve proposed is tantamount to Ukraine being in NATO or as good as in Putin’s eyes.
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Well, he’s kind of brought it on himself and it’s why negotiations will take place that allow him to save face. Unfortunately, the alternative is a never ending conflict.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,162
Sick Boy said:
Well, he’s kind of brought it on himself and it’s why negotiations will take place that allow him to save face.
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Wasn’t the whole justification for him invading being Ukraine getting too close to NATO?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,163
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wasn’t the whole justification for him invading being Ukraine getting too close to NATO?
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If you take everything he says at face value.
The reality is there will be a settlement with the current battlefield. The days of Johnson and Macron exploiting the conflict to further their own political careers are at an end.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,164
Sick Boy said:
If you take everything he says at face value.
The reality is there will be a settlement with the current battlefield. The days of Johnson and Macron exploiting the conflict to further their own political careers are at an end.
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You’re taking him at face value by believing he won’t invade again just because he signs a piece of paper. All the while this ‘saving face’ involves him annexing more Ukrainian territory.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,165
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You’re taking him at face value by believing he won’t invade again just because he signs a piece of paper. All the while this ‘saving face’ involves him annexing more Ukrainian territory.
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The direct consequence of bringing others into the conflict that he wouldn’t be able to win isn’t going to be something that he’d take lightly. It also allows him to save face while essentially having Ukraine in NATO without it being official.

Unfortunately there isn’t going to be a glorious Ukrainian victory; the alternative is a never ending war. Ukraine giving up land is inevitable at this point and its naive to think that it’s not being talked about behind closed doors.

I know it’s wrong and unjust but it’s the reality of the situation.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,166
Sick Boy said:
The direct consequence of bringing others into the conflict that he wouldn’t be able to win isn’t going to be something that he’d take lightly. It also allows him to save face while essentially having Ukraine in NATO without it being official.

Unfortunately there isn’t going to be a glorious Ukrainian victory; the alternative is a never ending war.
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Others are already involved and as long as they are he also can’t win. That scenario being no different to what’s happening now.

People like him don’t respect appeasement.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,167
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Others are already involved and as long as they are he also can’t win. That scenario being no different to what’s happening now.

People like him don’t respect appeasement.
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Oh well, as long as there’s a long line of innocent people with no choice on both sides to lose their lives, it’s much better than trying to bring it to an end.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,168
Sick Boy said:
Oh well, as long as there’s a long line of innocent people with no choice on both sides to lose their lives, it’s much better than trying to bring it to an end.
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I want it brought to an end with Russia’s military defeat or complete withdrawal. Putin could leave the territory today and we’d have peace tomorrow.

Why allow him a slice of territory that isn’t his?
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,169
Sick Boy said:
Yet another Putin stooge calling for peace - Farage’s Ukraine comments were hardly offensive – other party leaders could use a history lesson | Nigel Farage | The Guardian
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Jenkins has been talking appeasement shite since the war began.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 26, 2024
  • #9,170
Sick Boy said:
Presumably some sort of clause that if Russia invades Ukraine it would automatically draw others into conflict.
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So that would mean that Russia withdraws completely including Crimea? Otherwise they’ll still be invading Ukraine.

Also we’ve already done this in 1994. It meant nothing to Putin.
 
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