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USSR invades Ukraine. (18 Viewers)

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  • Start date Feb 22, 2022
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Grendel

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #7,526
PVA said:
According to reports Russia launched a massive counteroffensive at Avdiivka and got decimated.

Over 800 Russians killed and 80 armoured vehicles destroyed.

The Z convicts being forced to advance or be killed for fleeing.

Grim.
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What’s the independent source for this?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #7,527
Grendel said:
What’s the independent source for this?
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There's lots of sources and lots of gelocoated video footage.


The Russian Army Reportedly Lost 34 Tanks Trying To Cut Off Avdiivka

The Russians might regroup and try again. All eyes are on the fields around Avdiivka as the sun comes up in Ukraine on Wednesday.
www.forbes.com


 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #7,528
Anyway you must be on Ukraine's side now @Grendel as you're a big fan of US foreign policy these days.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #7,529
PVA said:
Anyway you must be on Ukraine's side now @Grendel as you're a big fan of US foreign policy these days.
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He went a bit quiet after a link was posted

Shock

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #7,530
skybluetony176 said:
Let’s negotiate with this guy.

Marina Ovsyannikova: Anti-war Russian journalist sentenced in absentia

Maria Ovsyannikova, who protested live on air against the invasion of Ukraine, gets more than 8 years in jail.
www.bbc.co.uk

He seems a reasonable well balanced man.
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In a totally shocking turn of events this woman has now been poisoned


Marina Ovsyannikova: Russian TV journalist known for on-air Ukraine war protest falls ill after suspected poisoning

Marina Ovsyannikova gained international attention last March after bursting into a studio of Russian state TV, her then employer, to denounce the war in Ukraine. She later said she had no regrets about her actions.
news.sky.com
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,531
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And it should. Israel has committed war crimes against Palestine while building illegal settlements in the West Bank under a far right regime. They only get away with it courtesy of a very strong pro Israel lobby in the US.
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oh here it is - war crimes
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,532
Grendel said:
oh here it is - war crimes
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That’s fairly well recognised isn’t it?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,533
shmmeee said:
That’s fairly well recognised isn’t it?
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Is it? So before this latest conflict Israel were guilty of war crimes?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,534
Grendel said:
oh here it is - war crimes
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What I’ve said there is indisputable. The West Bank is illegally occupied and the IDF have already committed crimes in Gaza.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,535
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What I’ve said there is indisputable. The West Bank is illegally occupied and the IDF have already committed crimes in Gaza.
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so before this latest incident it’s a war crime?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,536
Grendel said:
Is it? So before this latest conflict Israel were guilty of war crimes?
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Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
www.amnesty.org
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,537
Grendel said:
so before this latest incident it’s a war crime?
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Shelling children on the beach certainly qualifies
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,538
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Shelling children on the beach certainly qualifies
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Suits some on here when it suits
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,539
Grendel said:
Suits some on here when it suits
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What?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,540
shmmeee said:

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
www.amnesty.org
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lol
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,541
Are people really denying that Israel doesn’t have a history of war crimes, especially in Gaza. In the 2008 Gaza War they were found to have used white phosphor in Gaza. White phosphor is not banned per se as ammunition but its use in populated areas is. There’s already evidence that they’re using it again this time. They’ve also have history of collective punishment. The Red are already accusing them of that this time.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,542
Tony has his big Wiki out again everyone
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,543
skybluetony176 said:
Are people really denying that Israel doesn’t have a history of war crimes, especially in Gaza. In the 2008 Gaza War they were found to have used white phosphor in Gaza. White phosphor is not banned per se as ammunition but its use in populated areas is. There’s already evidence that they’re using it again this time. They’ve also have history of collective punishment. The Red are already accusing them of that this time.
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…and you’ve fallen into the trap.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,544
Sick Boy said:
…and you’ve fallen into the trap.
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Bless him
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,545
Let me get this right.

Shelling civilians = absolutely fine

Prssident grows a beard = vile country
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,546
I’m loving it now we are having serious debate
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,547
PVA said:
Let me get this right.

Shelling civilians = absolutely fine

Prssident grows a beard = vile country
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I think it’s more to do with war crimes being acceptable when it suits, like cluster bombs.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,548
Sick Boy said:
I think it’s more to do with war crimes being acceptable when it suits, like cluster bombs.
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Cluster bombs are a war crime when used against civilians. Ukraine have not used cluster bombs against civilians.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,549
PVA said:
Cluster bombs are a war crime when used against civilians. Ukraine have not used cluster bombs against civilians.
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But amnesty international have said they have committed war crimes?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,550
PVA said:
Cluster bombs are a war crime when used against civilians. Ukraine have not used cluster bombs against civilians.
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Ukraine: Civilian Deaths from Cluster Munitions

New Human Rights Watch research found that Ukrainian cluster munition rocket attacks on Russian-controlled areas in and around the city of Izium in eastern Ukraine during 2022 caused many casualties among Ukrainian civilians. Both countries should stop using these inherently indiscriminate...
www.hrw.org
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,551
Oh dear
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,552
Sick Boy said:

Ukraine: Civilian Deaths from Cluster Munitions

New Human Rights Watch research found that Ukrainian cluster munition rocket attacks on Russian-controlled areas in and around the city of Izium in eastern Ukraine during 2022 caused many casualties among Ukrainian civilians. Both countries should stop using these inherently indiscriminate...
www.hrw.org
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Ukraine vehemently deny that.

Russia spent months shelling Izium.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,553
It’s all lies Amnesty PVA says so

Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians

Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm’s way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals, as they repelled the Russian invasion that began in February, Amnesty International said today. Such tactics violate...
www.amnesty.org
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,554
PVA said:
Ukraine vehemently deny that.

Russia spent months shelling Izium.
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Of course they’re going to deny it ffs.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,555
Sick Boy said:
Of course they’re going to deny it ffs.
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Its beyond embarrassing
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,556
If they did hit civilians they weren't targeting civilians, they were targeting Russian positions.

Unlike when Russia used a cluster munition on a busy train station killing 60 people.

Slight difference.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,557
PVA said:
If they did hit civilians they weren't targeting civilians, they were targeting Russian positions.

Unlike when Russia used a cluster munition on a busy train station killing 60 people.

Slight difference.
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So both HRW and Amnesty International are spreading misinformation.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,558
PVA said:
If they did hit civilians they weren't targeting civilians, they were targeting Russian positions.

Unlike when Russia used a cluster munition on a busy train station killing 60 people.

Slight difference.
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Sounds like in the eyes of the Un definition it’s a war crime?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,559
Sick Boy said:
So both HRW and Amnesty International are spreading misinformation.
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of course they are
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2023
  • #7,560
Sick Boy said:
So both HRW and Amnesty International are spreading misinformation.
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Oh right does it say in that article they were deliberately targeting civilians then?

Anyone found to have committed a war crime should be tried and punished accordingly.

But if you think that incident is remotely comparable to Russia (or Israel) deliberately shelling civilians then there's something wrong with you.
 
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