US Midterm Elections

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  1. CanadianCCFC

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    What sort of coverage is it getting in the UK?
     
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    A fair bit. The BBC News page is full of it.

    They also have quite a lot about the elections too.
     
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    Haha I get it; the fake news media sucks
     
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    These are the top 3 stories at the moment.

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    Sky news leading with it also. As are most of the broadsheets. Not sure if anything has happened in UK today.


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    So am I right in thinking nothing will be put through now because the dems will just block it?
     
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    I like to think of myself as relatively intelligent... But the US election and political system is alien to me.

    I think the best way to explain it is that the House of Representatives is similar to the House of Commons in the UK, with the Senate being similar to the House of Lords.

    The House of Representatives will propose new laws and the Senate approves it. You'll probably find now that the Dems will block everything and it will never get to Senate.

    Happy to be corrected though!
     
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    That's always been my take on it as well, with each District being the equivalent of a Constituency.

    Although there are aspects of US politics that baffle me (how can an independent Judiciary be nominated by the President? Why can the President veto things done by the Legislative or issue directives so it can be bypassed etc?) but I think we should look to copy the Senate a bit more with HoL reform.

    Periodically we have this conversation about proportional representation or similar in parliament, but you can't do that with a constituency based system as inevitably some places will need to have Members forced upon them to make it representative.

    So instead, you keep the constituency FPTP method for the Commons but the overall percentage vote of the country in a General Election is used to make up the Lords. Each party can then choose whoever they want to fill the number of seats they win, be it ex-MP's, judges etc. Even donors if they so wished.
     
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    It was a disaster for the Democrats, on that showing Trump is safely on course to win a second term.
     
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    I don't think it was a disaster, as they did win the House so they can now actually try and block stuff.

    Certainly not as good as they'd have hoped, but in the Senate most of the seats up for grabs were Dem already and many of the GOP were dyed-Red.

    With Trump you can never look more than a day ahead anyway. There's still plenty of time for economic sanctions and trade wars to affect jobs and the economy. But politics over there is so partisan at the moment it will inevitably be that anything bad will be blamed on the other party.

    I agree at the moment I think he'd have a good chance of re-election but a smart man wouldn't even go for it. I can see a lot of the swing states hedging their bets next time, and they'll either vote Trump but with Dem's in the senate so he'll be a lame duck and he's unstable enough already not being allowed to do whatever he wants with Rep legislative power, or they'll vote for a Dem president and Rep Senator and he'll lose the election.
     
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    And if they do, Trump now has someone to conveniently blame for his measures not passing.
    We now know there will be no Mexican border wall.
     
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    No. Actually unless something dramatic changes Trump is a shoe in next time round
     
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    Obama was hardly a lame duck was he?
     
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    Obama lost TWICE as many seats during his first mid-terms but the mainstream media choose to ignore that.
     
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    Yes, he was at a certain point. Rep's (Mitch McConnell I believe) even described him as such when they blocked his Supreme Court nomination. Anything he put through in the last few years he did via executive orders or whatever they've been renamed now because everything put to the House was blocked. Obamacare was done when Dem's had total control, and even that was massively watered down.
     
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    Trump is insane . The US is in serious trouble
     
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    I'm pretty certain there's an actual mental health condition he hasn't had diagnosed. No 'normal' person acts like him, even when you compare him to some of the craziest Americans.

    The US political system is even more of a mess than ours. How can you have a system where Trump can sack Sessions and replace him with someone who his anti-Meuller given that person then has the power to block the investigation in to Trump.

    There's similar stories around the US. People involved in the elections being able to change the rules about who could vote in their area.

    If this was some third world country or somewhere in the middle east we'd be demanding independent observers go in to ensure the election was legit.
     
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    Did the fake news media tell you that?
     
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    Trump is now banning reporters he doesn’t like from the White House like some sort of crazy dictator.
     
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    And making allegations about something that was on live that are just untrue. Laid hands on the intern!!!!!! Really? Not what I saw. How the hell can the White House just make stuff up?

    I’m really scared
     
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    It does seem like the unpredictable behaviour will get ramped up now he doesn't have control of both houses. Firing Sessions seems incredibly suspect, but the reporter thing is crazy - the claim is verifiably untrue.

    I think his mental state is largely due to his wealthy upbringing - he's been able to make stuff up since he was a kid and never been questioned for it because everyone around him was staff. But because he's also immensely stupid and thinks it's because he's clever enough to get away with it and now for the first time ever people aren't just accepting his bullshit and he doesn't know what to do.

    Basically he's a real life Eric Cartman. Intellect of a 10 year old and emotionally 3 years old. I have heard people say ODD but he's quite clearly a sociopath and has some form of delusional psychosis
     
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    you sound like FAKE NEWS
     
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    And he’s a rude and terrible man
     
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    I'm not a big fan of yours either, to be honest ... You are not the best ... Just sit down, please.
     
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    Lol
     
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    No, he isn't, and the USA is doing better than ever.
     
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    Since about 85% of the media is anti-Trump why would he invite non-impartial reporters to the White House?
    That doesn't make him a 'crazy dictator', it just means he is exercising common sense in not rewarding his enemies.
    He is making them realize there are consequences for their actions.
     
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    His enemies? Fucking hell. He doesn’t want them there because he’s a narcissist who thinks he’s above criticism. He sees them as enemies because he’s a narcissist and he sees them criticising him. Don’t indulge the nut job in his narcissistic fantasies for crying out loud.
     
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    Completely agree and the reason he banned Jim Acosta wasn't even his views it was the way he tried to argue them across like an activist rather than a journalist. And even after Trump survives another election the anti-Trump train still believes the US is in 'serious trouble', if it was, why would he keep winning?
     
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