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UEFA EURO 2024 (4 Viewers)

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Jamesimus

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,441
Grendel said:
You also can’t blame Southgate for lacklustre performances from Bellingham and Foden all tournament
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I don’t. I just think the majority of our players are no where near as good as we think.
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,442
Terry_dactyl said:
I’ve been very disappointed with Bellingham. Clearly got the skills but hasn’t seemed like a team player.
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Sulked the entire final and into the post match.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,443
mark82 said:
Are we ever going to win a tournament again?
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Not with this manager we aren’t. Next Euros is on home turf so another good chance there when this group should be entering its prime.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,444
Gutted but this hurts nowhere near as much as the playoff final
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,445
Grendel said:
Spain are a better team with a better squad
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Is that what we tell ourselves to disguise the mismanagement of top level footballers ?
 
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stupot07

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,446
shmmeee said:
Need a manager who can make the most of the attacking talent we have.
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And one who plays the best players for his system not just his best players.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,447
Southgate has his flaws, but I can't really see anyone else coming in and winning something with this squad. Supremely gifted in the midfield department and so much strength in depth, but defensively we are weak and upfront is no better. We have half a world class lineup, the other half is nowhere near.
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,448
Do what Spain did and promote from within.

get super Lee Carsley In there
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,449
xcraigx said:
Southgate has his flaws, but I can't really see anyone else coming in and winning something with this squad. Supremely gifted in the midfield department and so much strength in depth, but defensively we are weak and upfront is no better. We have half a world class lineup, the other half is nowhere near.
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So if we are supremely gifted in midfield, what are Spain? Rodri got taken off and we still barely touched the ball!
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,450
Most of these players don't play in teams that set up like Crystal Palace under Roy Hodgson , it's easy to see how it can all go so wrong .. Spain never sat in at all tbh.
 
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Macca

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,451
Evo1883 said:
Is that what we tell ourselves to disguise the mismanagement of top level footballers ?
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I think it’s a bit of both to be fair. Clearly the manager is a big factor though
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,452
xcraigx said:
Southgate has his flaws, but I can't really see anyone else coming in and winning something with this squad. Supremely gifted in the midfield department and so much strength in depth, but defensively we are weak and upfront is no better. We have half a world class lineup, the other half is nowhere near.
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It genuinely needs a Jürgen Klopp to play to the strengths of what we have. The FA should pay him whatever he wants.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,453
Grendel said:
You also can’t blame Southgate for lacklustre performances from Bellingham and Foden all tournament
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He stuck with them and played a half fit Kane
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,454
The better team won on the night.



Well done Scotland "B"
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,455
Thanks for the memories Gareth, time to give someone else a go.
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,456
Nico Williams man of the match, and deserved too.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,457
HadjiChippo said:
Nico Williams man of the match, and deserved too.
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Yes scored a sitter with all the time in the world.
 
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HadjiChippo

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,458
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes scored a sitter with all the time in the world.
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He ran us ragged all game
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 14, 2024
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We looked dull and pedestrian all tournament.

Only exception was the first half v Netherlands when they allowed us too much space in midfield.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,460
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes scored a sitter with all the time in the world.
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It was a good finish and caused us problems throughout.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,461
xcraigx said:
Southgate has his flaws, but I can't really see anyone else coming in and winning something with this squad. Supremely gifted in the midfield department and so much strength in depth, but defensively we are weak and upfront is no better. We have half a world class lineup, the other half is nowhere near.
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Yet Spains Morata is not a mile ahead of Toney/Watkins ( he used to be) The difference is the movement and quick passing behind him and proper use of wingers. To not have given Gordon a run all tournament when we had nothing on the left was poor. I would add that when Spain had the ball we didn't press ( Kanes lack of pace!) , but when we had it, Spain did , and regained possession.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,462
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Yet Spains Morata is not a mile ahead of Toney/Watkins ( he used to be) The difference is the movement and quick passing behind him and proper use of wingers. To not have given Gordon a run all tournament when we had nothing on the left was poor.
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Their team isn't miles ahead of ours , they have a manager who sets up and plays a way that suits their players ..

We play like we're trying to stay up
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,463
I still think we would have won that in 90 if Gordon had come on
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,464
Evo1883 said:
Their team isn't miles ahead of ours , they have a manager who sets up and plays a way that suits their players ..

We play like we're trying to stay up
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I think what shows the fact they are miles ahead is that our team couldn’t even play like that if we wanted to!
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,465
Jamesimus said:
If we change the way we play football and have different football players, maybe.
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We've got some of the best players in the world.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,466
Evo1883 said:
Their team isn't miles ahead of ours , they have a manager who sets up and plays a way that suits their players ..

We play like we're trying to stay up
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Micah Richards said the first sensible thing he has in a long time…a super defensive coach in charge of players who aren’t compatible with that. 3 tournaments chucked away by Gareth is quite enough
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,467
Jamesimus said:
I think what shows the fact they are miles ahead is that our team couldn’t even play like that if we wanted to!
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But they do play like that every week at the best clubs in the world
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,468
It was a pretty dull final for a dull tournament, the players from all countries look knackered and they are pushing them even more with pointless world club cup tournaments.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,469
Ccfcisparks said:
Gutted but this hurts nowhere near as much as the playoff final
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In both games we (CCFC and England) second best.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,470
We should have gone out to Slovakia to be fair.

Southgate so tactically poor, can't react (quick enough) in game.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,471
HadjiChippo said:
Nico Williams man of the match, and deserved too.
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He’s absolute quality.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,472
Ccfcisparks said:
Gutted but this hurts nowhere near as much as the playoff final
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My lads just said if England had picked Simms they’d have won easily.
I’ve bought him his first season ticket for next season…that’ll show him what disappointment is really about!
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,473
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Yet Spains Morata is not a mile ahead of Toney/Watkins ( he used to be) The difference is the movement and quick passing behind him and proper use of wingers. To not have given Gordon a run all tournament when we had nothing on the left was poor. I would add that when Spain had the ball we didn't press ( Kanes lack of pace!) , but when we had it, Spain did , and regained possession.
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In the players we have behind the striker we have the ability to play in that way, I don't know why we don't.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,474
lifeskyblue said:
In both games we (CCFC and England) second best.
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Always somebody else. Would give my footballing nuts to see either win something major
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 14, 2024
  • #6,475
PVA said:
We should have gone out to Slovakia to be fair.

Southgate so tactically poor, can't react (quick enough) in game.
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We play awful football , anybody with eyeballs can see these players are struggling to play the way he wants them to

We've been dire all tournament besides 45 against Holland, how we've reached the final is beyond me
 
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