U21's.Cov v Fleetwood. (1 Viewer)

[Ann Proctor-Brown]

Doing like the first team.0-2.

 

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[Cobi Jones's Dreads]

I don’t watch much academy football but for someone who does, is there a next big thing in either U21 or U18s and make a serious claim in the first team this year or next?

From what I can see we don’t have anything coming through of note apart from possibly Obikwu or Rus?

Would love a shred of positivity from those better informed than me!

 

[Ann Proctor-Brown]

I don’t watch much academy football but for someone who does, is there a next big thing in either U21 or U18s and make a serious claim in the first team this year or next?

From what I can see we don’t have anything coming through of note apart from possibly Obikwu or Rus?

Would love a shred of positivity from those better informed than me!

No

 

[Cobi Jones's Dreads]

No

Thanks

3-0

 

[Cobi Jones's Dreads]

4-0

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

No

I think he asked for a shred of positivity.

 

[Ann Proctor-Brown]

Lost 0-4.

 

[stupot07]

That was poor. There's no one in that team anywhere near first team standard.

We seem to have a thing for small or weak players. Fleetwood were better, stronger and wanted it more.

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[ProfessorbyGrace]

What was the lineup?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Im still banging the drum of fucking off the U21s entirely, absolute waste of cash

You have a pretty decent idea at u18 level if a player will make it. Sign them up, loan them out

 

[stupot07]

What was the lineup?

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[pusbccfc]

Im still banging the drum of fucking off the U21s entirely, absolute waste of cash

You have a pretty decent idea at u18 level if a player will make it. Sign them up, loan them out

Depends. If we were ever to drop down the Leagues, we'd rely on it again.

At the current level, we are never going to produce anyone good enough.

 

[Nick]

That was poor. There's no one in that team anywhere near first team standard.

We seem to have a thing for small or weak players. Fleetwood were better, stronger and wanted it more.

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Not even ohare?

Did we keep possession though?

 

[Evo1883]

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Very young tbh

 

[stupot07]

Not even ohare?

Did we keep possession though?

O'Hare just looked rusty and like he was playing with players nowhere near his wavelength.

We gave the ball away a lot.

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[slowpoke]

I don’t watch much academy football but for someone who does, is there a next big thing in either U21 or U18s and make a serious claim in the first team this year or next?

From what I can see we don’t have anything coming through of note apart from possibly Obikwu or Rus?

Would love a shred of positivity from those better informed than me!

Yes

 

[Cobi Jones's Dreads]

Yes

And who is that please?

 

[slowpoke]

Not fair to give names, too young but there are one or two well rated, although I doubt there will be a class of ‘92 like Man United had.

 

[slowpoke]

Im still banging the drum of fucking off the U21s entirely, absolute waste of cash

You have a pretty decent idea at u18 level if a player will make it. Sign them up, loan them out

WTF are you talking about.
There’s been a number of U/21s on the subs bench this season, so you are saying if a player isn’t in the first team squad at 18 fuck him off. Clown.

 

[stupot07]

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[Saddlebrains]

WTF are you talking about.
There’s been a number of U/21s on the subs bench this season, so you are saying if a player isn’t in the first team squad at 18 fuck him off. Clown.

Yea Obikwu, Stretton, Andrews have had tonnes of minutes aint they silly me, i forgot the balon d'ors on their horizon

 

[Saddlebrains]

Also Ballbag, i didnt say that

I said talent is obvious by the u18 age group, so you sign them up, loan them out for 2 or 3 seasons and go from there. Clown

 

[slowpoke]

Yea Obikwu, Stretton, Andrews have had tonnes of minutes aint they silly me, i forgot the balon d'ors on their horizon

They are all 17 ffs! I bet you were still delivering yellow shite at their age.

 

[Saddlebrains]

They are all 17 ffs! I bet you were still delivering yellow shite at their age.

17. So u18. So we could sign them up and loan them out if we think they're good enough then? Thus proving my point

 

[slowpoke]

Also Ballbag, i didnt say that

I said talent is obvious by the u18 age group, so you sign them up, loan them out for 2 or 3 seasons and go from there. Clown

You don’t know what you are on about, what pro club are going to take on 17/18 year olds. U/18s & U21s are development squads different names nowadays used to be called apprentices, A-team and reserves.

 

[slowpoke]

17. So u18. So we could sign them up and loan them out if we think they're good enough then? Thus proving my point

They don’t sign pro-forms until they are 18.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Fleetwood Town, the world renowned producer of young world class players

 

[napolimp]

Im still banging the drum of fucking off the U21s entirely, absolute waste of cash

You have a pretty decent idea at u18 level if a player will make it. Sign them up, loan them out

I'm pretty sure Villa released O'hare (aged 22) because they didn't think he was good enough to make it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm pretty sure Villa released O'hare (aged 22) because they didn't think he was good enough to make it.

I heard it was because whoever was in charge of Villa’s U23s didn’t want anyone over the age of 20 in there.

 

[Julie SBA]

WTF are you talking about.
There’s been a number of U/21s on the subs bench this season, so you are saying if a player isn’t in the first team squad at 18 fuck him off. Clown.

They're not pushing to be involved though, there to make up the numbers with the larger bench.
As soon as Palmer and co are fit they wont be there anymore which IMO is a good thing as they tend to not play as much 21's football if they are bench warming for the 1st team.

Reality is, right now there is nobody staking a claim to break through and dislodge a "first team player"

 

[slowpoke]

They're not pushing to be involved though, there to make up the numbers with the larger bench.
As soon as Palmer and co are fit they wont be there anymore which IMO is a good thing as they tend to not play as much 21's football if they are bench warming for the 1st team.

Reality is, right now there is nobody staking a claim to break through and dislodge a "first team player"

I looked at that squad that played yesterday and most are 17 or younger

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Im still banging the drum of fucking off the U21s entirely, absolute waste of cash

You have a pretty decent idea at u18 level if a player will make it. Sign them up, loan them out

Kind of agree but would prefer a reserves league instead, rather than loaning them out straight away. We still want some level of control over their development.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

We seem to have a thing for small or weak players.

tbf when Ogrizovic was there we went for stronger players, dominated youth football, but then their lack of technical ability got show up when they weren't able to just bully the opposition physically.

I'm guessing the logic is that strength is easier to bulk up as kids grow up, whereas a good technical start is harder to coach into somebody.

 

[stupot07]

tbf when Ogrizovic was there we went for stronger players, dominated youth football, but then their lack of technical ability got show up when they weren't able to just bully the opposition physically.

I'm guessing the logic is that strength is easier to bulk up as kids grow up, whereas a good technical start is harder to coach into somebody.

They get them that early now, at 5-6 as part of the the pre academy they have plenty of coaching opportunities to improve technical and tactical ability. Lad who played for my team got picked up by Blues at the end of the U12s, not particularly the best technically, but absolutely rapid and strong, the reason is you can teach kids technical and tactical ability, but you can't teach pace and power.

Coincidentally, JCH never went to an academy, he got picked up at 15/16 at an open trial, also Jodi Jones never went through a formal academy. They are having better careers than 99.9% of players that have been through academies from aged 6 to 18.

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[shmmeee]

I'm pretty sure Villa released O'hare (aged 22) because they didn't think he was good enough to make it.

And so far they’d be right.