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slowpoke

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #2,171
larry_david said:
Reid and Tavares stepping up now according to Tisdale. Says Reid was shocked at the intensity of Championship training (sums up how shite the SPL actually is if he had 20 apps for his team).

Tavares sounds erratic but a runner, non stop and keeps plugging away, plus saw a few highlights end of last season, his pace and trickery is something we don't have. Could be a diamond in the rough.

The question is do we loan either of these two out? Tavares won't get near our first team this season, bit like Bapaga but will they learn more in 23s or playing L1/2?
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That’s okay if they play regularly if not they are better off staying here.
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,172
Tavares is 5th in line for a striker berth or effectively 4th in line whilst Godden remains unavailable.
I think we'll keep him around, especially as he offers something completely different with electric pace & exceptional work-rate. Yes his positioning & finishing particularly still need work, along with some of his link up play but there's plenty of potential there.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,173
Frostie said:
Tavares is 5th in line for a striker berth or effectively 4th in line whilst Godden remains unavailable.
I think we'll keep him around, especially as he offers something completely different with electric pace & exceptional work-rate. Yes his positioning & finishing particularly still need work, along with some of his link up play but there's plenty of potential there.
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Won't pretend i watch the u23s regularly but on the couple of games I streamed last season he was the stand out performer. Definitely something there. I feel we're overly harsh on 20 year old footballers these days, I swear we used to give players til they were 22/23 to decide if they were going to break through.

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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,174
TomRad85 said:
Won't pretend i watch the u23s regularly but on the couple of games I streamed last season he was the stand out performer. Definitely something there. I feel we're overly harsh on 20 year old footballers these days, I swear we used to give players til they were 22/23 to decide if they were going to break through.

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I disagree there, by 20 or 21 clubs will have a good idea whether a player is going to be able to progress with them or not. Trying to think of players we’ve let go at that age who have proved us wrong, maybe Josh Ruffels at a push but even he took the long route.
 

larry_david

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,175
HIs first goal the other day she showed a bit of everything. Stood them up, skipped through two of them, perfect pull back and then finished off the rebound. I saw a bit of skill last year on twitter where he took it on the half way line, sent two the wrong way then played a one two and set it up for Bremang on a plate. it looked like something Messi would do. I think the issue is for every time he does that, he does 7 times where it goes wrong. and it's getting that consistency.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,176
larry_david said:
she showed a bit of everything.
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,177
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I disagree there, by 20 or 21 clubs will have a good idea whether a player is going to be able to progress with them or not. Trying to think of players we’ve let go at that age who have proved us wrong, maybe Josh Ruffels at a push but even he took the long route.
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Clarke-Harris?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,178
shmmeee said:
Clarke-Harris?
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Oh yeah, he was 18 and I believe that was more for disciplinary reasons than footballing ones
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,179
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I disagree there, by 20 or 21 clubs will have a good idea whether a player is going to be able to progress with them or not. Trying to think of players we’ve let go at that age who have proved us wrong, maybe Josh Ruffels at a push but even he took the long route.
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I'm not on about the clubs as such, well I am a bit but yes the clubs will have a more than good idea at 21 whether at 22/23 they could have something. I'm more talking about fans who if a player isn't ready for the first team at 19/20 are saying obvs not good enough get rid.

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shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,180
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Oh yeah, he was 18 and I believe that was more for disciplinary reasons than footballing ones
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Fucking hell my maths is letting my down today, how did I get 22 from 2012-1994?
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,181
shmmeee said:
Fucking hell my maths is letting my down today, how did I get 22 from 2012-1994?
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You haven't just had a baby too have you? I can barely function enough to brush my teeth

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larry_david

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,182
SlowerThanPlatt said:
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Perils of not reading back!
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #2,183
TomRad85 said:
I'm not on about the clubs as such, well I am a bit but yes the clubs will have a more than good idea at 21 whether at 22/23 they could have something. I'm more talking about fans who if a player isn't ready for the first team at 19/20 are saying obvs not good enough get rid.

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Yeah, absolutely. Young players all develop at different rates. Just because Maatsen, McCallum & others might be in our first team at 18, that doesn't mean that a 20 year old will never make it.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 10, 2021
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Did they ever actually alert us who got released from under 18s? I see the GK Fallowes has signed for...Tamworth? I think
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 10, 2021
  • #2,185
larry_david said:
Did they ever actually alert us who got released from under 18s? I see the GK Fallowes has signed for...Tamworth? I think
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Yeah

NEWS: Coventry City confirm Academy release list

Coventry City can confirm the Academy players who will be leaving the Club following the conclusion of their scholarships.
www.ccfc.co.uk

Basically every second year other than George Burroughs and Harrison Nee got released

Not seen the new intake names yet though.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 10, 2021
  • #2,186
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yeah

NEWS: Coventry City confirm Academy release list

Coventry City can confirm the Academy players who will be leaving the Club following the conclusion of their scholarships.
www.ccfc.co.uk

Basically every second year other than George Burroughs and Harrison Nee got released

Not seen the new intake names yet though.
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That’s those who got offered a pro at the end of the year, 4 others were already on pros.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 10, 2021
  • #2,187
SlowerThanPlatt said:
That’s those who got offered a pro at the end of the year, 4 others were already on pros.
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Well, yeah.

Bapaga already had one and McGrath, Finnegan and Evans-Harriott were signed on contracts from other clubs so I don't really think of them as 'our' academy lads, more U23 signings who just happened to be U18.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #2,188
I take it this is the same format as last year, with one less team?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #2,189
Philosorapter said:
I take it this is the same format as last year, with one less team?
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Birmingham and Nottingham Forest have gone up to Category 1, Peterborough are a new addition to Cat 2

2021-22 Professional Development League 2 - YouthHawk

youthhawk.co.uk
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #2,190
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Birmingham and Nottingham Forest have gone up to Category 1, Peterborough are a new addition to Cat 2

2021-22 Professional Development League 2 - YouthHawk

youthhawk.co.uk
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I need to change an axis from 'the date the games played' to 'games played.'

Going to grab a coffee.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #2,191
I would like to give this a roll and see where it goes.

 
Last edited: Sep 16, 2021

Philosoraptor

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #2,192
Good win against Watford.

 
Last edited: Sep 16, 2021

larry_david

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #2,193
Did the 18s play today?
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #2,194
larry_david said:
Did the 18s play today?
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Yes, beat Watford 3-1, for the record a mixed U/15/16s team beat Watford 3-2
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #2,195
slowpoke said:
Yes, beat Watford 3-1, for the record a mixed U/15/16s team beat Watford 3-2
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The 18s game was 3-2. Bradley Stretton scored 1 and an U16 player got the other 2
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #2,196
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The 18s game was 3-2. Bradley Stretton scored 1 and an U16 player got the other 2
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That U/16 player is superb had a great game, his second goal spotting their goalie off his line from distance and chipped him technically an og as it came off the bar hitting the stretched keeper and in, he made Stretton’s goal too.
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #2,197
slowpoke said:
That U/16 player is superb had a great game, his second goal spotting their goalie off his line from distance and chipped him technically an og as it came off the bar hitting the stretched keeper and in, he made Stretton’s goal too.
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slowpoke

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #2,198
U15/16s mix mainly U/15s second half won 6-1 at Manchester City yesterday.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #2,199
slowpoke said:
U15/16s mix mainly U/15s second half won 6-1 at Manchester City yesterday.
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Yes that’s a good result on the face of it but difficult to know what strength of side these big clubs put out.

In other news, Ryan Howley has been called up to Wales U19s after a great start to the season, a year above his age group. Games at the end of the month I think
 
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slowpoke

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #2,200
They played them a month or so ago and lost 7-2 not sure how the team was set up it seems to be a bit different this year with the age groups mixed a bit compared to before
 

SBchimp

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #2,201
The bigger clubs often play us a year down or sometimes even their development centres.
Taking nothing away from the result though, whatever the makeup I'm sure they would have been well represented..
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #2,202
Today’s results:

CCFC U16s 4-2 WBA

CCFC U18s 1-1 Swansea (Hewitt)
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #2,203
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #2,204
Coventry City defender Thierry Katsukunya had a chance to take the lead for the visitors 10 minutes after the restart, but dragged his effort from distance just wide of the post.

What a name!
 
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slowpoke

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #2,205
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Today’s results:

CCFC U16s 4-2 WBA

CCFC U18s 1-1 Swansea (Hewitt)
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mix of U/14s & 15s play Spurs away tomorrow
 
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