David O'Day
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lot to be said for regular first team football
lot to be said for regular first team footballI don't think anyone during the 17/18 season would have had Jordan Shipley playing more games at a higher level than Tom Bayliss... the benefits of staying.
Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fansI would respectfully disagree. Whilst money is certainly a factor, many players prioritise career development and long-term prospects over immediate financial gain. I've seen countless examples of players choosing clubs where they'll get regular playing time and can develop their skills, even if it means accepting lower wages initially. They understand that consistent performances and improvement in their game often lead to better contracts down the line.
The players who focus solely on the biggest wage packet sometomes find themselves warming the bench, watching their careers stagnate whilst their value decreases. Playing time and development are currency too.
If money were truly the only motivator, we'd see a mass exodus to Saudi Arabia and other high-paying leagues. The fact that many players turn down those lucrative leagues shows they're weighing up factors like career progression, level of competition, and personal fulfilment alongside financial considerations.
Football careers are short, and clever players think strategically about moves that will benefit them both now and potentially enhance their earning power in the future.
Always makes me chuckle when certain players are praised for their club loyalty eg: Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Messi etc ‘truth is they were already at the pinnacle.Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans
Reading wasn't a basket case at the time to be fair. They were once seen as a very well run club but it obviously unravelled.I agree with the talent part, but McNulty chose to join a basket case Championship team, and Thomas chose to join A premiership team where he was never going to make a matchday squad. They could have both chosen different teams in which the money would have increased, but their careers not stagnate
Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans
Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans
It is certainly a balance, if you were 18 though, would you rather be coached by our academy or Liverpools? Obviously Liverpools. But as you say, would be much easier to get game time with us and put yourself in the shop window. Must be a tricky choice.Players are geared to maximise this goal. Let’s not conflate this with taking the maximum pay at each of their next steps.
I’ll use two examples in our recent history to demonstrate this:
MVE - supposedly Leeds were in the running to sign him. They could’ve paid him more but he chose us because we’re position to put him in the shop window and let him move on. At Leeds, being first choice was not a guarantee and if Leeds got promoted, as they did… he’s squad player.
G Thomas - remember him? Left to go to Leicester after our relegation after a promising end to the season. Sure, he maximised his wages at that point but completely stifled his own growth. One good season with us in L1/L2 and he gets a serious transfer offer from the Championship on similar wages. Same with Sambou who went to Everton… now playing in Azerbaijan.
Footballers need to be v careful about chasing the money if it means going to the wrong club.
Reading wasn't a basket case at the time to be fair. They were once seen as a very well run club but it obviously unravelled.
Why not both like Connor ThomasIt is certainly a balance, if you were 18 though, would you rather be coached by our academy or Liverpools? Obviously Liverpools. But as you say, would be much easier to get game time with us and put yourself in the shop window. Must be a tricky choice.
Are you a QVC ITK hahaI have it on good authority Dolan will be sold on the shopping channel tonight. Keep tuned.
Alot of ITK rep is on the line here mate, come 5pm we will see who's got the minerals lolAt 5 all bets are off and Nick closes the thread that disappearing down a rabbit hole
NotNo sign of Dolanbut 7 signings announced today, how did the ITK's miss those?
Where’s he goingAll done and dusted he’s going elsewhere ! Close thread
Absolutely no idea but if he was coming and seen this thread you’d think he get a move onWhere’s he going
glad Hamer signed that contractGuys relax. Gimoc said it was done
Remember when he said MVE didn't turn up for his welcoming photo duties.glad Hamer signed that contract
Guys relax. Gimoc said it was done
That was just a misunderstanding, Milan just under estimated how long it would take to get around the big Tesco at the Arena.Remember when he said MVE didn't turn up for his welcoming photo duties.
Knowing MVE like we do now, bloody earthquake wouldn't stop MVE being in the spotlight
And are they still hopeful?did I? must have missed that
they were hoping he might meet up with the team when they fly out to Portugal tomorrow
Obviously ..until he doesn't meet them after all then we will get 'didn't say it was done'And are they still hopeful?
Is he on holiday?did I? must have missed that
they were hoping he might meet up with the team when they fly out to Portugal tomorrow
did I? must have missed that
they were hoping he might meet up with the team when they fly out to Portugal tomorrow
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