Transfer Rumour Tyrhys Dolan (79 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

I don't think anyone during the 17/18 season would have had Jordan Shipley playing more games at a higher level than Tom Bayliss... the benefits of staying.

lot to be said for regular first team football

 

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[CovveeBreak]

Can we end this thread already He ain't coming here

 

[Gibbo]

I would respectfully disagree. Whilst money is certainly a factor, many players prioritise career development and long-term prospects over immediate financial gain. I've seen countless examples of players choosing clubs where they'll get regular playing time and can develop their skills, even if it means accepting lower wages initially. They understand that consistent performances and improvement in their game often lead to better contracts down the line.

The players who focus solely on the biggest wage packet sometomes find themselves warming the bench, watching their careers stagnate whilst their value decreases. Playing time and development are currency too.

If money were truly the only motivator, we'd see a mass exodus to Saudi Arabia and other high-paying leagues. The fact that many players turn down those lucrative leagues shows they're weighing up factors like career progression, level of competition, and personal fulfilment alongside financial considerations.

Football careers are short, and clever players think strategically about moves that will benefit them both now and potentially enhance their earning power in the future.

Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans

 

[Brylowes]

Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans

Always makes me chuckle when certain players are praised for their club loyalty eg: Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Messi etc ‘truth is they were already at the pinnacle.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I agree with the talent part, but McNulty chose to join a basket case Championship team, and Thomas chose to join A premiership team where he was never going to make a matchday squad. They could have both chosen different teams in which the money would have increased, but their careers not stagnate

Reading wasn't a basket case at the time to be fair. They were once seen as a very well run club but it obviously unravelled.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans

I think it's a balance of a few things but yes of course money is part of it. Though players at elite level earn unbelievable amounts even if they're playing for a midtable PL team. In their case increased earnings is less of a factor than prestige and achievement imo.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Career development and long term prospects = more money. It's overwhelmingly about maximizing revenue over a 10-12 year career span. And it's the only way to look at it because its exactly what we would do in their position. Any claim that there is some kid of morality in it is for the fairies. And it has been the case for at least 120 years. Club loyalty is for fans

Players are geared to maximise this goal. Let’s not conflate this with taking the maximum pay at each of their next steps.

I’ll use two examples in our recent history to demonstrate this:

MVE - supposedly Leeds were in the running to sign him. They could’ve paid him more but he chose us because we’re position to put him in the shop window and let him move on. At Leeds, being first choice was not a guarantee and if Leeds got promoted, as they did… he’s squad player.

G Thomas - remember him? Left to go to Leicester after our relegation after a promising end to the season. Sure, he maximised his wages at that point but completely stifled his own growth. One good season with us in L1/L2 and he gets a serious transfer offer from the Championship on similar wages. Same with Sambou who went to Everton… now playing in Azerbaijan.

Footballers need to be v careful about chasing the money if it means going to the wrong club.

 

[Briles]

Players are geared to maximise this goal. Let’s not conflate this with taking the maximum pay at each of their next steps.

I’ll use two examples in our recent history to demonstrate this:

MVE - supposedly Leeds were in the running to sign him. They could’ve paid him more but he chose us because we’re position to put him in the shop window and let him move on. At Leeds, being first choice was not a guarantee and if Leeds got promoted, as they did… he’s squad player.

G Thomas - remember him? Left to go to Leicester after our relegation after a promising end to the season. Sure, he maximised his wages at that point but completely stifled his own growth. One good season with us in L1/L2 and he gets a serious transfer offer from the Championship on similar wages. Same with Sambou who went to Everton… now playing in Azerbaijan.

Footballers need to be v careful about chasing the money if it means going to the wrong club.

It is certainly a balance, if you were 18 though, would you rather be coached by our academy or Liverpools? Obviously Liverpools. But as you say, would be much easier to get game time with us and put yourself in the shop window. Must be a tricky choice.

 

[Deity]

The other thing that has changed incredibly is the age even the best clubs in the world are prepared to blood players from. It’s no longer a rarity to see 17yr olds starting matches or being on the first team bench.

As football becomes more athletic and less physical it makes it easier for young players to make an impact earlier in their physical development.

Therefore yes you might get better coaching in the Liverpool academy but in truth you will have to be a world class wonder kid to break into the team.

At a club like Coventry, with a manager who doesn’t see age as a barrier, you could be regularly playing first team football at 18.

I would suggest that’s much better for a players development …

 

[torchomatic]

Reading wasn't a basket case at the time to be fair. They were once seen as a very well run club but it obviously unravelled.

I remember a pre season friendly against Nuneaton at LW and their manager at the time (French guy maybe?) was in our end watching the game. Around the time McNulty went.

 

[theskyisthelimit]

It is certainly a balance, if you were 18 though, would you rather be coached by our academy or Liverpools? Obviously Liverpools. But as you say, would be much easier to get game time with us and put yourself in the shop window. Must be a tricky choice.

Why not both like Connor Thomas

 

[skyblueeyesrevisited]

I have it on good authority Dolan will be sold on the shopping channel tonight. Keep tuned.

 

[theskyisthelimit]

I have it on good authority Dolan will be sold on the shopping channel tonight. Keep tuned.

Are you a QVC ITK haha

 

[Mcbean]

At 5 all bets are off and Nick closes the thread that disappearing down a rabbit hole

 

[SkyBlueStallion_89]

At 5 all bets are off and Nick closes the thread that disappearing down a rabbit hole

Alot of ITK rep is on the line here mate, come 5pm we will see who's got the minerals lol