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  • Start date Dec 9, 2014
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Nick

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  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #176
skybluetony176 said:
You set the tone with your OP having a dig at the trust. There's no point moaning about it now.
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I wasn't writing them a letter asking them for something was I?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #177
Nick said:
I wasn't writing them a letter asking them for something was I?
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I do think you're splitting hairs on this one Nick. There is no time for more delay from the club so asking for a prompt reply is not unreasonable.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #178
ccfcway said:
Are you on commission for mentioning "Wasps" ?
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No more than you are for mentioning 3 weeks.
How can you slate someone for repeating themselves, you are the biggest bore on this forum.
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #179
Check put Page 2

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/cms_images/customer-charter-2014-15-ra-revision144-2048637.pdf

We will initially respond in writing within 10 working days. So have the acknowledged it yet?

If not it would show the total contempt they have towards the supporters/ customers/consumers . This is their revenue source, life blood and future.
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #180
Nick said:
Look at the tone of that, then compare it to Wasps.....

Maybe some of the fans who expect the club to be in the PL should get off their arse and go then?
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It's not a bad letter and sets out questions that a lot of people I suspect would quite like answers to. To be fair to the Trust if they hadn't put in a please respond by date then there wasn't any implied urgency for a response and we know how long three weeks can be in Sisu terms. That combined with those questions from OSB58 would be a good starting point for Sisu to start rebuilding trust with us.
 
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AndreasB

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #181
italiahorse said:
How much crap will you take before you say enough is enough?
Have you ever thought that people don't want whats being dished up.
No product no fans. Easy
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Bit more than you obviously - you chucked the Sky Blues for Wasps pretty easily didnt you?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #182
AndreasB said:
Bit more than you obviously - you chucked the Sky Blues for Wasps pretty easily didnt you?
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Not really he has a City season ticket so he hasn't cucked them just yet
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #183
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Not really he has a City season ticket so he hasn't cucked them just yet
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Yep exactly, can't be knocked for still going to city games! We need all we can get!
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #184
Nick said:
Yep exactly, can't be knocked for still going to city games! We need all we can get!
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You weren't quick enough
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #185
TBF these questions should not have had to be sent out by the Trust..
Tim said they would be more open so why haven't they just put out these answers on their own accord, they know what fans have been asking.

As for the tone it is far better thyen the tone we get from our owners when they do decide to speak.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #186
letsallsingtogether said:
TBF these questions should not have had to be sent out by the Trust..
Tim said they would be more open so why haven't they just put out these answers on their own accord, they know what fans have been asking.

As for the tone it is far better thyen the tone we get from our owners when they do decide to speak.
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Exaxtly. Which makes it hard to understand why a CCFC fan is more upset because a deadline has imposed for a response than the questions that they shouldn't need to be asking in the first place need to be asked. Its almost as if he's worried the trust could hurt SISU's feelings.
 

spider_ricoh

New Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #187
The letter covers the key points perfectly - unfortunately the response is likely to be so much bluster and double-speak, but I hope to be proved wrong on this!
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2014
  • #188
spider_ricoh said:
The letter covers the key points perfectly - unfortunately the response is likely to be so much bluster and double-speak, but I hope to be proved wrong on this!
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Have the telegraph asked these questions lately? SISU supposedly want to improve communications, I would have thought it would be following their own policy to answer questions publicly. 365 Days revenue blah blah blah, is not an acceptable answer and showing two stooges ( or even three stooges if you count Garlick who may have been shown the same things ) blacked out postcodes of the "preferred" site is also just a smoke screen. They must have a business plan - or else why would there Investors still be here - let's hear it, we are the customers. Sell us the vision as you have the investors ( a smaller stadium in the country is not a "vision" by the way - it is the end of the PL return dream ).
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #189
olderskyblue said:
Nick, you keep beating this "PR Machine" drum in most threads. Can you explain what your point is? I don't read every thread so must have missed it.
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The words he uses are 'Invisible PR machine'

Think about the invisible man. He doesn't exist. But you can't prove it because if he did exist you wouldn't be able to see him. Also used when someone can't believe that most have a different view. How can nearly everyone have a different view when you know you are right?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #190
spider_ricoh said:
The letter covers the key points perfectly - unfortunately the response is likely to be so much bluster and double-speak, but I hope to be proved wrong on this!
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nope I doubt it will get response at all and this is the issue. The lack of any response about the future is the ongoing concern.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #191
Astute said:
The words he uses are 'Invisible PR machine'

Think about the invisible man. He doesn't exist. But you can't prove it because if he did exist you wouldn't be able to see him. Also used when someone can't believe that most have a different view. How can nearly everyone have a different view when you know you are right?
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I think his point is, Eastwood insisted there was no PR going on from Wasps, when clearly there is. Look at Intheknow's posts for a start. Then you have the Ccfc fans that were forever slating sixfields attendees, but justify their backing for an out of town franchise by saying "we just want to watch top flight rugger".

So you have Wasps very own PR (which has been denied, hence the invisible PR comments), and Ccfc fans doing it for them as well.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #192
covmark said:
I think his point is, Eastwood insisted there was no PR going on from Wasps, when clearly there is. Look at Intheknow's posts for a start. Then you have the Ccfc fans that were forever slating sixfields attendees, but justify their backing for an out of town franchise by saying "we just want to watch top flight rugger".

So you have Wasps very own PR (which has been denied, hence the invisible PR comments), and Ccfc fans doing it for them as well.
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So much the same as the invisable SISU PR machine then?

SISU claimed that they weren't using PR and infact made a big point out of the fact that ACL used Weber Shadwick.

I would then counter your "In the know" with RFC. Then you have the CCFC fans who claimed to be against the move to Suxfields but then endorsed it by "just wanting to watch the team".

Or is it all just in Nicks head but he's happy to talk about Wasps and their invisable PR machine instead of talking about SISU's failings. Wait a minute. That must mean that Nick is the big boss in the SISU invisable PR machine and SBT is just a platform to promote SISU.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #193
skybluetony176 said:
So much the same as the invisable SISU PR machine then?

SISU claimed that they weren't using PR and infact made a big point out of the fact that ACL used Weber Shadwick.

I would then counter your "In the know" with RFC. Then you have the CCFC fans who claimed to be against the move to Suxfields but then endorsed it by "just wanting to watch the team".

Or is it all just in Nicks head but he's happy to talk about Wasps and their invisable PR machine instead of talking about SISU's failings. Wait a minute. That must mean that Nick is the big boss in the SISU invisable PR machine and SBT is just a platform to promote SISU.
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I hope Sisu don't use any PR machine, if they do they should claim a fucking refund.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #194
lordsummerisle said:
I hope Sisu don't use any PR machine, if they do they should claim a fucking refund.
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I think the issue is that they paid them with invisable money
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #195
lordsummerisle said:
I hope Sisu don't use any PR machine, if they do they should claim a fucking refund.
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The report shows £833,366 in the business when it went into liquidation – followed by £50,000 recovered from HMRC through a VAT claim.


The business now has just £9,673.43 after paying out other sums including over £46,000 in solicitors fees to Stephenson Harwood LLP and £30,000 to £6,000-a-month PR consultants Macca Media.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #196
Rusty Trombone said:
The report shows £833,366 in the business when it went into liquidation – followed by £50,000 recovered from HMRC through a VAT claim.


The business now has just £9,673.43 after paying out other sums including over £46,000 in solicitors fees to Stephenson Harwood LLP and £30,000 to £6,000-a-month PR consultants Macca Media.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978
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There's some money they can claim back, as bad a waste of money as David Bell.
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #197
lordsummerisle said:
There's some money they can claim back, as bad a waste of money as David Bell.
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If we can claim money back for bad players the club is worth a fortune.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #198
skybluetony176 said:
So much the same as the invisable SISU PR machine then?

SISU claimed that they weren't using PR and infact made a big point out of the fact that ACL used Weber Shadwick.

I would then counter your "In the know" with RFC. Then you have the CCFC fans who claimed to be against the move to Suxfields but then endorsed it by "just wanting to watch the team".

Or is it all just in Nicks head but he's happy to talk about Wasps and their invisable PR machine instead of talking about SISU's failings. Wait a minute. That must mean that Nick is the big boss in the SISU invisable PR machine and SBT is just a platform to promote SISU.
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Rfc is nothing like intheknow

Oh the whole suxfield thing again, I suggest you have a word with the people who just want to watch top class rugby the ones who try to justify moving clubs etc.

If I was the boss of sisus pr it would be a Lott better than it is, and I know nothing about pr
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #199
Rusty Trombone said:
The report shows £833,366 in the business when it went into liquidation – followed by £50,000 recovered from HMRC through a VAT claim.


The business now has just £9,673.43 after paying out other sums including over £46,000 in solicitors fees to Stephenson Harwood LLP and £30,000 to £6,000-a-month PR consultants Macca Media.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978
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Macca Media? Is that what GM is upto these days
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #200
Nick said:
Rfc is nothing like intheknow

Oh the whole suxfield thing again, I suggest you have a word with the people who just want to watch top class rugby the ones who try to justify moving clubs etc.

If I was the boss of sisus pr it would be a Lott better than it is, and I know nothing about pr
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Thats true In the now isnt a beatles fan. HELP!

Its just a mirage image example. I'm not claiming it to be factual. Its just the mirror image of the "proof" given in the reply in support of your invisable PR conspiracy theory.

The last bit (given the success of SISU's PR) actually reads more like a confession
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #201
skybluetony176 said:
Thats true In the now isnt a beatles fan. HELP!

Its just a mirage image example. I'm not claiming it to be factual. Its just the mirror image of the "proof" given in the reply in support of your invisable PR conspiracy theory.

The last bit (given the success of SISU's PR) actually reads more like a confession
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No they last bit means I know nothing about pr and I'm sure I could do a better job, as could most
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #202
Did the trust ever get a reply on this letter or was the only outcome it give Nick a wide on
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #203
skybluetony176 said:
Did the trust ever get a reply on this letter or was the only outcome it give Nick a wide on
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The latter I believe
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #204
What can I say I am a cheap date, I just need a letter written

Saying that, it seems the trust just need a plastic wasps flag to wave about and they are equally as wide...Some may say gaping.

Pic from the telegraph of the new squirell dress code

 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #205
News just in, the wasps bloke is walking into the squirrel to meet the trust, live pictures just being sent through: :laugh:



Simon Gilbert is working overtime today, as he has just got a preview of the letter sent to Wasps from the Trust:



(I reckon even LAST will crack a smile at these, he has always wanted hair like her on the left)
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #206
covmark said:
I think his point is, Eastwood insisted there was no PR going on from Wasps, when clearly there is. Look at Intheknow's posts for a start. Then you have the Ccfc fans that were forever slating sixfields attendees, but justify their backing for an out of town franchise by saying "we just want to watch top flight rugger".

So you have Wasps very own PR (which has been denied, hence the invisible PR comments), and Ccfc fans doing it for them as well.
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WASPS are using the same PR machine that is used by JLR - and are uber expensive. So may be part of their sponsorship
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #207
oldfiver said:
WASPS are using the same PR machine that is used by JLR - and are uber expensive. So may be part of their sponsorship
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Really? I know grendel gets paid a lot but uber?

On a serious note, who??
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #208
Shit, got to dash, the trust boys have found me out and are coming to do me in as their phones were hacked and Simon Gilbert found this personal one!




(They aren't really, I am hoping even they can crack a smile.)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #209
Christ, Simon Gilbert is now breaking into the compound where Pr Machines are stored and has taken a picture of Wasps Pr Machine just firing up:



While he was there, he saw SISUs...











Simon has not been harmed in the making of these silly posts
 
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oldbloke

New Member
  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #210
If Fisher had a brain he'd tell them to fuck off and come back when they've done there own account's and given back all the money they took off City fans for there fighting fund. Funny as fuck.
 
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