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Brighton Sky Blue

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It was wrong what they did that’s easy to say but there’s no comparison to the shooting of an unarmed woman in the face and refusing emergency care for her
I’m sure if they went into a mosque to heckle an imam the poster in question would still be outraged.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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We wouldn't still be talking about it if what you just said had surfaced earlier rather than the smoke and mirrors of the last few pages from some, let's leave it at that. This has already had too much airtime.

Given that European airlines have cancelled flights to the middle east, it looks like something might be about to kick off, which is much more important than this conversation. Iran are also making threats by the looks of it, so hopefully we don't wake up to world war 3 tomorrow.
Looks ok out the window and in any case our forces wouldn’t be expected on the front line we could just do admin and make the tea all we’ve ever done according to the peace minister and president
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I’m sure if they went into a mosque to heckle an imam the poster in question would still be outraged.
Yep damn straight Rupert would be straight out condemning it
To be fair the civil war is coming and we are going to be asked these kind of questions in our own country soon enough. Already there’s clear opinion that immigrants shouldn’t be housed or given health care, same as prisoners let’s just stretch it to other groups and see how far it can be pushed.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I hope mark carney is right. The last 70 years USA has not just had responsibilities but also rights to act in may ways that have led to it being a huge success in terms of its economy and influence
Take that away and stop influencing in a soft and hard way you don’t just lose respect you start to lose the other parts too
20 years from now things will look very different in fact possibly much less
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I hope mark carney is right. The last 70 years USA has not just had responsibilities but also rights to act in may ways that have led to it being a huge success in terms of its economy and influence
Take that away and stop influencing in a soft and hard way you don’t just lose respect you start to lose the other parts too
20 years from now things will look very different in fact possibly much less
Voting in a complete moron not once but twice has lasting consequences.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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There's people openly on this thread saying they wish he was assassinated. You haven't called that out. Not that it has anything to do with this anyway. Again...

This also has nothing to do with what any punishment should be for these people. They protested in a church. It is low behaviour. That is it. If you are really telling me that it isn't a problem and that you think it is perfectly normal behaviour, then it demonstrates how lost you are on this.
Everyone on here would call out any violence against ICE or MAGA people by the protestors. However is protesting against someone from ICE in a church, given the tensions over the cititizens murder in that area, a bad thing? I think its justified with tensions so high on such an important matter. Why is a church sacrosanct?
Sorry I dont know much about the particular case, but churches should never be a haven of purity given the abusive and ecploitative stuff that has happened in them over centuries. The MAGA fake religious righteousness is sickening. Didn't Trump controversially use a church venue as a political weapon justification for violence at the Capital?
Did you call that out?
 

SBT

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Protesting in a church = wrong, low behaviour, must be called out

Burning a Koran in the streets = 'unnecessary' but proved his point


But it's everyone else that is incapable of calling out certain things?
Look, not every poster on here has the intellectual bravery to confidently state that a neo-Nazi who thinks that immigrants are “chemical weapons by the Talmudic Jews” made a point which was “completely validated”.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I know dougin talks shit but it’s for confirmation from historians. No one will ever know of course but it appears russia was far more central to Germany not winning the war. It would just have been longer and more thousands of people would have lost their lives

What you know is the case is that the sense of shared experience and mutual sacrifice was and is universal for those that lived it and the generations that followed

Now greed and lack of integrity is honoured and celebrated that unbreakable bond is laid at the idol of might is right and money is king

We all know that’s bollox but not much we can do about it
 

LarryGrayson

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Trumps comments about the frontline have really touched a nerve with me .

Many british soldiers died , and many more died afterwards through mental health struggles

I lost 2 friends , the british army and our nato friends were involved in many fierce battles in both iraq and afghanistan


Not sure what to say really , hes damaging relations all over the world and certainly isnt fit to represent the largest power on earth
a mate of mine got married best man in speech said how there were three of them but one was lost in afghan was done with class and understament summat trump knows nothing about
 

LarryGrayson

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It is very cowardly
Looking Good Family Guy GIF by FOX
 

LarryGrayson

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We wouldn't still be talking about it if what you just said had surfaced earlier rather than the smoke and mirrors of the last few pages from some, let's leave it at that. This has already had too much airtime.

Given that European airlines have cancelled flights to the middle east, it looks like something might be about to kick off, which is much more important than this conversation. Iran are also making threats by the looks of it, so hopefully we don't wake up to world war 3 tomorrow.
poor iranian victims for protesting but we dont want them here cos theyll be changed into rapist asylum seekers and we dont want to protest against our own niether
 

LarryGrayson

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Everyone on here would call out any violence against ICE or MAGA people by the protestors. However is protesting against someone from ICE in a church, given the tensions over the cititizens murder in that area, a bad thing? I think its justified with tensions so high on such an important matter. Why is a church sacrosanct?
Sorry I dont know much about the particular case, but churches should never be a haven of purity given the abusive and ecploitative stuff that has happened in them over centuries. The MAGA fake religious righteousness is sickening. Didn't Trump controversially use a church venue as a political weapon justification for violence at the Capital?
Did you call that out?
it ant related to a school complaining they detained a five year old anyway
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I’m sure if they went into a mosque to heckle an imam the poster in question would still be outraged.

Yes, I would. They can wait outside until it's finished.

I've checked this thread this morning, and there are a lot of unhinged replies with nothing actually particularly relevant to what I'm saying. It is all comparisons and whataboutism. Also bargaining rants about TDS and Koran burning. It's then met with 'if protesters behaved in a bad way we would call it out so we aren't biased'. That's objectively a lie. There's many of you on here that have been simply unable to do that, which is why this discussion is still going on.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yes, I would. They can wait outside until it's finished.

I've checked this thread this morning, and there are a lot of unhinged replies with nothing actually particularly relevant to what I'm saying. It is all comparisons and whataboutism. Also bargaining rants about TDS and Koran burning. It's then met with 'if protesters behaved in a bad way we would call it out so we aren't biased'. That's objectively a lie. There's many of you on here that have been simply unable to do that, which is why this discussion is still going on.
Why is burning a holy book fine but going into a church to protest isn’t?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This is the last time we play the whataboutism game.

You think it is ok to go into churches and protest as part of a political campaign because you have motivated reasoning. You and some others cannot analyse things properly because of it. Let's leave it at that.
You think it is ok to burn holy scriptures in public as part of a political campaign. What is the difference, aside from that being literally more inflammatory?
 

mmttww

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This has already had too much airtime.

Hard disagree. Masked thugs are snatching people off the streets and committing murder with impunity in a country which rightly or wrongly tends to set the tone for Western politics. I don't think that can get too much airtime.

People in Minneapolis are terrified but still have the guts to get out and protest. Fair f*cks to all of them. You seem more concerned that a church was the scene of a protest than with Good being murdered. I cannot wrap my head around that.
 

Ccfc_Addy

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SBT

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I'd love to say how I feel about this story, but I'd hate to be accused of having "motivated reasoning"
Only by entering the objective mind palace can you achieve such insights as “Jake Lang had a valid point” and “Targeting churches is fine as long as you’re outside”
 

skybluetony176

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Trump isn’t even factually correct on saying there was a front line. A lad I used to work with did a tour, pretty much spent his whole tour holed up in a fire base doing daily patrols and having encounters with the Taliban on a weekly if not daily basis. He told me the longest period he went without firing his gun in a combat situation was 10 days. The UK and other partners had numerous fire bases around Afghanistan, just checked the UK had 137 alone. The front line was the whole country. Trump is so full of shit, how anyone takes anything he says seriously is beyond me. You must be deranged if you do.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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This is the last time we play the whataboutism game.

You think it is ok to go into churches and protest as part of a political campaign because you have motivated reasoning. You and some others cannot analyse things properly because of it. Let's leave it at that.
Dipping out of the discussion. Was the protest was about ICE individual who was speaking or preaching in a church? If so absolutely 100% correct to protest as long as peaceful. Whatever the religion.
Churches and all places of worship talk about peace, tolerance, talking about problems and reconciliation . The abhorrent treatment of people in City, make a church with ICE employees/ supporters lecturing or whatever they were doing ripe for peaceful challenge. People in church praying etc. needed to know about this ICE Individual too. Applies to all people, institutions or businesses. Appreciate churches should normally be quiet havens but this shocking situation in Minessota is beyond normal state of play and I assume it was peaceful? Trump has used churches for his politics blatantly did you call that out?
You dont strike me as being a churchgoer so why are you so offended by a demonstration at a church?..... God knows 🤣
 

djr8369

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Suspect a few on here are big fans of the heterodox podcast sphere. Big IAmVerySmart due to you being biased and me doing logical reasoning vibes.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Trump is just saying what many believe who’ve not been involved in war
Hesgeth said it before and trump said as much in 2020
His mistake this time was to not realise who his audience was
 

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