Brighton Sky Blue
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I always wondered why Lampard was giving cheeky Sieg Heils every time we’ve won a game.
I always wondered why Lampard was giving cheeky Sieg Heils every time we’ve won a game.Talking of Nazis ... has anyone seen Frank Sanazi? Not sure how much you could do with that character, but seen an initial 10 mins of him online, but worth a watch on YT.
Edit: think the act might be a few years old, just came up on my feed, so I'm late to the party on it. Made me laugh anyway.
Ok, what's the difference between Mussolini and Hitler in your view? If you'd studied the origins of fascist parties, you'd find that they are often formed as a result of a split with a 'socialist' parties...Fuentes has openly expressed support for Hitler alongside fatso-level anti Semitism. Trump is a traditional fascist, more of a Mussolini type.
The question I asked myself was why an impartial news organization that has a venerable place in world news should lower itself to put out a doctored news item?So they've apologised for that.
The question you really want to ask yourself, is whether it's unfair of the BBC to portray Trump as someone who tried to overturn the results of a free and fair election?
As to the bias thing, is it possible that this isn't really about BBC bias, it's about them talking about things that you'd rather they didn't? That isn't bias, old chap, that's you taking offence at something you'd rather not see on the TV.
Ah, I see we’re getting close to another textbook offer! Rabid anti Semitism and the attempts to commit genocide would be some very obvious differences.Ok, what's the difference between Mussolini and Hitler in your view? If you'd studied the origins of fascist parties, you'd find that they are often formed as a result of a split with a 'socialist' parties...
Ah, I see we’re getting close to another textbook offer! Rabid anti Semitism and the attempts to commit genocide would be some very obvious differences.
We know the obvious racial policy differences. But, since you're throwing around terms, broadly speaking the economic differences are surprisingly sparse and both of whom nationalised a lot of Italian/German industries and, broadly speaking state control, state planning and centralisation of the economy is something we associate more with 'left wing' (statist) economics.Ah, I see we’re getting close to another textbook offer! Rabid anti Semitism and the attempts to commit genocide would be some very obvious differences.
Is this going to morph into an attempt to call the Nazis left wing? The racial policy differences are what I say distinguishes Fuentes from Trump.We know the obvious racial policy differences. But, since you're throwing around terms, broadly speaking the economic differences are surprisingly sparse and both of whom nationalised a lot of Italian/German industries and, broadly speaking state control, state planning and centralisation of the economy is something we associate more with 'left wing' (statist) economics.
Why do you think think people describe the political spectrum as an 'inverted U?' It's because if you take 'Marxist' USSR under Stalin and 'fascist' Germany and Italy, you see a lot of similarities.
How you come to the conclusion that Trump is a 'fascist' is beyond me. If you want to accuse of him of having 'dictatorial tendencies' or being 'authoritarian', we'd find some common ground. Fascism is a specific set of principles that, frankly, Trump does not hold. It's just as ridiculous for anyone to call Kamala Harris a 'communist' or 'Marxist'.
It is leftists who unironically call conservatives 'fascist' when the ideology developed as a result of splits in the socialist movement over support for WW1...Some historians do believe that the actual anti semite movement was started by socialists - the biggest culprit of mass murder and genocide was certainly a communist
No, its just pretty clear you don't really understand the development of fascism and what it actually is. Otherwise, you wouldn't call Trump a fascist.Is this going to morph into an attempt to call the Nazis left wing?
You support the guy so don’t want to put him in a category where he ticks the boxes. It’s ok.It is leftists who unironically call conservatives 'fascist' when the ideology developed as a result of splits in the socialist movement over support for WW1...
No, it’s just pretty clear you don't really understand the development of fascism and what it actually is. Otherwise, you wouldn't call Trump a fascist.
Who is the most famous anti Semite in your view?Some historians do believe that the actual anti semite movement was started by socialists - the biggest culprit of mass murder and genocide was certainly a communist
Reminds me of a joke:Ok, what's the difference between Mussolini and Hitler in your view? If you'd studied the origins of fascist parties, you'd find that they are often formed as a result of a split with a 'socialist' parties...
What boxes does he tick? You keep saying this phrase without defining the rule of the game.You support the guy so don’t want to put him in a category where he ticks the boxes. It’s ok.
Ironically, most of this applies to socialism too...How many of these criteria does Trump meet?
Almost all of them I would say.
I gave some examples at the outset but sure let's review. Ultra nationalist social and economic policies, intimidation of the press and judiciary, concentration of power into the hands of a dictatorial figure, efforts to prevent the transfer of power and interfere with free elections, attacks on political opponents (real, not imagined as you have argued that Biden did to him)...What boxes does he tick? You keep saying this phrase without defining the rule of the game.
Fascism, like communism is a totalitarian ideology and frankly, if you want to make the argument the USA 'ticks the boxes' for a totalitarian state, be my guest - just don't expect to be taken seriously.
"Well, looking at the definition of fascism: It's a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy."
Ironically, most of this applies to socialism too...
How many of these criteria does Trump meet?
Almost all of them I would say.
You don't have to murder millions of people to be fascist. That's not the definition.
Well you have previously confessed your political alignment with old Comrade Bernie Sanders and Zohran Mamdani, so fair to say your Overton Window is somewhat warped.Trump is a traditional fascist, more of a Mussolini type.
What boxes does he tick? You keep saying this phrase without defining the rule of the game.
Fascism, like communism is a totalitarian ideology and frankly, if you want to make the argument the USA 'ticks the boxes' for a totalitarian state, be my guest - just don't expect to be taken seriously.
As @PVA shared earlier, the true definition of fascism is now, as Orwell called it back in 1946 ‘something not desirable’.Also then it says that NATO and the whole of the West are aligned with a Fascist state
Hold your breath everyone.
Owen "I never really supported the IRA" Jones thinks - you've guessed it Macron is a Facsist enabler!
Almost as many as Starmer!How many of these criteria does Trump meet?
Almost all of them I would say.
I fink sum bloak culled Mr Grimsdale sed in wancedoes anywon say leftist in the real world
Yes. Would you prefer it if everyone to the left of Tony Blair was called ‘communist’ or ‘Stalinist?’does anywon say leftist in the real world
Yes. Would you prefer it if everyone to the left of Tony Blair was called ‘communist’ or ‘Stalinist?’
… Or constant euphemisms to ‘1930s Russia’ whenever Zach Polansk mentions a wealth tax…
they dont its a made up word by peeple who sit on the internet all day and nightYes. Would you prefer it if everyone to the left of Tony Blair was called ‘communist’ or ‘Stalinist?’
… Or constant euphemisms to ‘1930s Russia’ whenever Zach Polansk mentions a wealth tax…
What’s the source of this?
The Pol Pot guide to government?
Oh god him! Ffs there are some annoying pricks on all sides of social media, but this guy is clear on my most hated list.
For someone who claims they don't care what happens in the US, you sure do spend a lot of time defending the US President in what is the de facto US politics thread.
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