Grendel
Well-Known Member
Take what side?
You've changed your tune haven't you. But then you do that when it suits whatever side you want to take.
Your obsession with resorting to sexual imagery around posters is really fucking weird. And maybe quite telling.
We should be doing what we can nowSure there will be plenty of outrage if/when full details ever come out but there’s stuff that’s happening in our country right now and stuff that happened abroad 20-30 years ago. We can maybe do something about one and fuck all about the other. Which one should we be more upset over ?
Have you?Have you ever commented on the vile abuse of girls in China through exploitation or in Pakistan where ten year olds are married off?
I don’t think it’s surprising that a sex trafficking scandal co-ordinated by a British socialite and with connections to a senior British royal and the US president would draw widespread attention in this country.
Ghislaine Maxwell is a British citizen and the scandal also involves many from the upper echelons of our country up to and including senior members of the royal family. Some of the crimes will also have taken place on our soil.Im not saying it’s not but I would expect 99% of people to be more upset/outraged about what’s going on here.
Is that the letter to BBC that was sent to the wrong address, with the wrong legal wording after the date for action had passed?
Pathetic.If we are going to be picky Maxwell is technically French - neither parent also were born here
Ghislaine Maxwell is a British citizen and the scandal also involves many from the upper echelons of our country up to and including senior members of the royal family. Some of the crimes will also have taken place on our soil.
You have some people getting very worked up about Peter Mandelson's involvement with Epstein when he's a very low rung on the food chain as far as the whole scandal is concerned. To be clear, he should face punishment for whatever he has done, but the guiltiest client of them all is currently sat in the White House and exploiting his position to escape justice and allow others off the hook too.
Yet he draws no condemnation at all from people active on both threads. Double standards.
If they were they'd recognise the majority of grooming cases in this country are done by white people, but that escapes any mention. Just like the anti-Semitism comments recently have highlighted, the chance to smear Muslims is the commonality.Just to be clear, if he’s found to have done anything with minors then it’s disgusting and I hope he feels the full force of the law (unlikely be we can but hope). But I can see why most people in this country would be far more concerned about what’s happening here and now.
Yep and you call it all out and you’re accused of whataboutery or false equivalence so you’re left with well it’s all shit so what can you doIf they were they'd recognise the majority of grooming cases in this country are done by white people, but that escapes any mention. Just like the anti-Semitism comments recently have highlighted, the chance to smear Muslims is the commonality.
That's really my point.
We're told 'why should we care, it's happening in the US not here'. So what, we're all human are we not?Yep and you call it all out and you’re accused of whataboutery or false equivalence so you’re left with well it’s all shit so what can you do
Focus on you and yours and being kind I think
What’s humanityWe're told 'why should we care, it's happening in the US not here'. So what, we're all human are we not?
We're told 'why should we care, it's happening in the US not here'. So what, we're all human are we not?
Well all of a sudden now you don't care about the US and what happens there.Take what side?
Grendel's quote not yoursthat’s not quite what was said
Strange obsession with a bland TV presenter who rides a bicycle. Surely you have bigger issues to focus on?The man once called a 'bike nonce'.
Have you seen some of the videos of him on his bike riding without regard to other road users that he posts.
He behaves like he believes he is entitled to special treatment and other people matter less.
Well all of a sudden now you don't care about the US and what happens there.
However when people suggested we should take a different stance to the US on things like Ukraine and Israel, then you were very much interested in what the Americans were doing.
Just got a British person as Epstein’s second in command but yes nothing to see here.No I wasn’t I just said the same. It doesn’t impact us so don’t get involved .
She's frenchJust got a British person as Epstein’s second in command but yes nothing to see here.
Just got a British person as Epstein’s second in command but yes nothing to see here.
She's french
She’s about to get released in exchange for letting Epstein’s best mate off the hook isn’t she?Sorry I think it’s unlikely many people will be as bothered by these events regardless as it’s not the here and now.
She is in prison anyway now. Do you want her deported back here?
She’s about to get released in exchange for letting Epstein’s best mate off the hook isn’t she?
She’s already been moved to a much more comfortable prison and is seeking a commutation. Trump will clearly do whatever clears his own grubby involvement.Is she?
Keep going….Well she has French citizenship
The Andrew formerly known as Prince is French too apparentlyKeep going….
The Andrew formerly known as Prince is French too apparently
Her lovely father of course was a very passionate Labour guy
Is this slop really the best you've got these days?Her lovely father of course was a very passionate Labour guy
Is this slop really the best you've got these days?
YesMy point is anyone can get one individual and suddenly be outraged about wider things.
None of this is actually relevant to us as much as the cultural influence on grooming gangs today in the country we live in.
Confession: I went to see Gary Glitter when at Uni - should I repent?
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