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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (6 Viewers)

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SBT

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,086
Grendel said:
Well I’ve heard a channel 4 spokesperson say it’s wrong, I’ve heard several people who used to work in the BBC say it’s wrong, I’ve heard an ex bbc employee and left wing Labour MP say it’s wrong, I’ve heard many anti Trump commentators say it’s wrong.
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Surely in the interests of accuracy you should point out that there are indeed media people who think the situation has become overblown? I’m sure the Jeremy Vine show is very interesting though.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,087
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Read the transcript of the entire speech (as already posted) and you tell me what his intent was.
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It's pretty obvious what the intent was but editing the speech in that way was wrong and gives credence to his claims about fake news.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2025
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Sick Boy said:
It's pretty obvious what the intent was but editing the speech in that way was wrong and gives credence to his claims about fake news.
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How so?
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,089
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How so?
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He can provide evidence where a speech of his has been edited to make it appear as though he said something that he didn't actually say.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,090
Sick Boy said:
He can provide evidence where a speech of his has been edited to make it appear as though he said something that he didn't actually say.
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What didn’t he actually say?
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,091
BBC would be much better off if Robbie Gibb went but we all know that won't happen.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,092
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It is unacceptable and what makes it really annoying it that it was completely unnecessary. Even if you play the speech in it's entirety it still comes across as someone trying to encourage an insurrection.

Instead because of this the likes of Trump and his cronies are getting to go around saying the BBC is just full of fake news (which it isn't) and that he is being victimised. It's given a man who should be in prison for trying to overthrow a government an excuse to claim he's the one that's been treated unfairly.
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Exactly, someone couldn’t help themselves though. Everyone could tell the gist of what he was trying to do, whip up fury and unrest (all because his narcissism couldn’t accept defeat). But to remove “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” and march to “cheer on our brave congressmen and women” and put in the words “fight like hell” takes the narrative up another notch and whoever produced it would’ve known that.

A news related programme should just let the audience decide/form their own view, not unequivocally tell them the narrative they want them to follow. People get spoon fed opinions and clipped videos without context from press and social media constantly, some might prefer that as it works well in a world of echo chambers/ confirmation bias, but the BBC should be better than that and if they want to survive in their current form, they’ve got to be. I personally hope they can survive even if I hardly watch terrestrial tv these days
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,093
CCFCSteve said:
Exactly, someone couldn’t help themselves though. Everyone could tell the gist of what he was trying to do, whip up fury and unrest (all because his narcissism couldn’t accept defeat). But to remove “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” and march to “cheer on our brave congressmen and women” and put in the words “fight like hell” takes the narrative up another notch and whoever produced it would’ve known that.

A news related programme should just let the audience decide/form their own view, not unequivocally tell them the narrative they want them to follow. People get spoon fed opinions and clipped videos without context from press and social media constantly, some might prefer that as it works well in a world of echo chambers/ confirmation bias, but the BBC should be better than that and if they want to survive in their current form, they’ve got to be. I personally hope they can survive even if I hardly watch terrestrial tv these days
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Let’s be honest, this is a man recorded as having told 36,000 lies in his first term alone. That he’s suddenly getting precious because of being broadcast saying words he said is typical of the man.

If you can point me towards a more impartial news organisation in this country I’d love to see one. It’s a very hard job covering someone like him without being accused of bias in the first place.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,094
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let’s be honest, this is a man recorded as having told 36,000 lies in his first term alone. That he’s suddenly getting precious because of being broadcast saying words he said is typical of the man.

If you can point me towards a more impartial news organisation in this country I’d love to see one. It’s a very hard job covering someone like him without being accused of bias in the first place.
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He posts AI generated content on the official presidential social media accounts.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,095
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let’s be honest, this is a man recorded as having told 36,000 lies in his first term alone. That he’s suddenly getting precious because of being broadcast saying words he said is typical of the man.

If you can point me towards a more impartial news organisation in this country I’d love to see one. It’s a very hard job covering someone like him without being accused of bias in the first place.
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We all know how thin skinned Trump is and he will use any leverage possible to apply pressure to get his way, so why put yourselves in that position to start with ? It was done intentionally by someone that probably thought it was the right thing to do. As has been mentioned elsewhere it was totally unnecessary though as the facts/words were already there. Let the viewer decide on those, there was no need to make up a new sentence to try to make it sound even worse

The BBC/BBC world news disappearing would be a big loss, as they’re probably best of a bad bunch, that’s why they need to be better.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,096
BBC has to be above and beyond reproach
 
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mmttww

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,097
Sky Blue Pete said:
BBC has to be above and beyond reproach
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which I get, but when you see it being torn to bits vs. a convicted criminal who glorifies sexual assault and shows daily that he's a pathological liar, it all feels a bit upside down.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,098
mmttww said:
which I get, but when you see it being torn to bits vs. a convicted criminal who glorifies sexual assault and shows daily that he's a pathological liar, it all feels a bit upside down.
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It is and it’s completely unfair but it’s still the case
It’s like the church you can say we failed here and failed there but it should be above and beyond reproach. Life isn’t that easy though
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,099
CCFCSteve said:
We all know how thin skinned Trump is
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Well at least he's not doing something completely mental like demanding $1bn compensation
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,100
I've seen the clips side by side on HIGNFY and it's not good. It's the kind of reporting that's expected from GB News or The Daily Heil, it is misleading and the BBC should be better.

Trump is a terrible human and unfit to be president, the sh*t he spouts is bad enough. There is no need to try to mislead and make it more reactionary.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,101
SBT said:
Surely in the interests of accuracy you should point out that there are indeed media people who think the situation has become overblown? I’m sure the Jeremy Vine show is very interesting though.
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The man once called a 'bike nonce'.

Have you seen some of the videos of him on his bike riding without regard to other road users that he posts.

He behaves like he believes he is entitled to special treatment and other people matter less.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,102
SBT said:
Surely in the interests of accuracy you should point out that there are indeed media people who think the situation has become overblown? I’m sure the Jeremy Vine show is very interesting though.
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Oh dear
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,103
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Read the transcript of the entire speech (as already posted) and you tell me what his intent was.
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Ok let’s get into the detail here. Has Trump been found guilty of incitement to violence?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,104
State your name didn’t go down well at the football

Moment Donald Trump 'short-circuits' live on Fox News as health fears grow | TV & Radio | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk

US president Donald Trump was furiously booed as he stepped out at at NFL game between the Washington Commanders and Detroit Lions
www.express.co.uk
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,105
Completely stupid of the BBC. It is quite clear that the BBC employs people in senior positions who are actively working against it.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2025
  • #15,106
SkyBlueMatt said:
I've seen the clips side by side on HIGNFY and it's not good. It's the kind of reporting that's expected from GB News or The Daily Heil, it is misleading and the BBC should be better.

Trump is a terrible human and unfit to be president, the sh*t he spouts is bad enough. There is no need to try to mislead and make it more reactionary.
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How about their coverage of The Palestine or non coverage of lsreal's genocide.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,107
The BBC is and has been politically biased for at least the last 35 years.
Yes, they had to cut the speech but could and should have done it in a better way. The Orange idiot clearly wanted to incite violence and an insurrection with the speech the ‘cheer on out brave senators’ line was definitely double edged but that doesn’t justify what they did.
It comes down to trust on what they are broadcasting and this incident does erode that trust a little more in much the same way as it has with the way that they have portrayed Brexit, covid and it’s fallout, Israel’s behaviour etc etc.
Its a slippery slope and needs people in there to install a straight bat mentality with their reporting whether the staff agree with it or not.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,108
eastwoodsdustman said:
the way that they have portrayed Brexit, covid and it’s fallout, Israel’s behaviour etc etc.
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In what way?
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,109
wingy said:
How about their coverage of The Palestine or non coverage of lsreal's genocide.
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My post was only focused on how they edited Trumps speech. Their inability to cover the genocide of Palestinians or their bias towards Israel is a completely different discussion. One topic that I now shy away from because all it does is anger me.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,110
The irony is that the Prescott memo includes claims of much more widespread and serious malpractice going on at BBC Arabic in terms of their coverage of the October 7 attacks, but they appear to have got a fraction of the coverage from the rest of the media. A Trump soundbite that didn’t include enough white flashes has been deemed to be far more important.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,111
SBT said:
The irony is that the Prescott memo includes claims of much more widespread and serious malpractice going on at BBC Arabic in terms of their coverage of the October 7 attacks, but they appear to have got a fraction of the coverage from the rest of the media. A Trump soundbite that didn’t include enough white flashes has been deemed to be far more important.
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Going to cost them, something, maybe he'll accept a gesture of innocence via Andrew's testimony to the House committee?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,112
SBT said:
The irony is that the Prescott memo includes claims of much more widespread and serious malpractice going on at BBC Arabic in terms of their coverage of the October 7 attacks, but they appear to have got a fraction of the coverage from the rest of the media. A Trump soundbite that didn’t include enough white flashes has been deemed to be far more important.
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Look it’s fine, Trump only wants to sue them for a half Masterchef.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,113
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Look it’s fine, Trump only wants to sue them for a half Masterchef.
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Some incredible stuff coming out. Fascinating to watch how people are responding to this compared to other instances when news channels have had to issue corrections.

John Simpson reporting. "Donald Trump’s demand for a billion dollars from the BBC comes from a local Florida law firm. It was sent to the wrong address, and the writer didn’t know what ‘salacious’ really means: ‘Due to their salacious nature, the fabricated statements that were aired by the BBC…'"

Also if you look at payouts in this country he'd be lucky to get £200K if he won, although Peston reports legal advice given to the BBC is Trump's case has no chance of success.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,114
chiefdave said:
Some incredible stuff coming out. Fascinating to watch how people are responding to this compared to other instances when news channels have had to issue corrections.

John Simpson reporting. "Donald Trump’s demand for a billion dollars from the BBC comes from a local Florida law firm. It was sent to the wrong address, and the writer didn’t know what ‘salacious’ really means: ‘Due to their salacious nature, the fabricated statements that were aired by the BBC…'"

Also if you look at payouts in this country he'd be lucky to get £200K if he won, although Peston reports legal advice given to the BBC is Trump's case has no chance of success.
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He’s filed loads of lawsuits against media organisations, both as a form of intimidation of the press, and to enrich himself through the presidency. The former is blatant authoritarianism. The ‘settlements’ are in effect bribes paid by the organisations for him to leave them alone and broadcast what he wants.

Genuinely, there are people who will see no problem with that on here just because it’s him doing it. FOX favourably edited an interview where he hesitated on wanting to release the Epstein files, then he sued someone else for the way they edited a Kamala Harris interview.

Fascist piece of shit he is.
 
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mmttww

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  • Nov 11, 2025
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fascist piece of shit he is.
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PVA

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  • Nov 11, 2025
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The Prescott memo claimed the coverage was biased because there was no equivalent program on Kamala Harris.

Yeah real head scratcher that, Michael.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2025
  • #15,117
PVA said:
The Prescott memo claimed the coverage was biased because there was no equivalent program on Kamala Harris.

Yeah real head scratcher that, Michael.
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The closest thing would be showing her speech conceding the election, accepting that her opponent won, and hoping for a smooth transition of power.

None of which Trump himself managed to say when he lost.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 11, 2025
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PVA said:
The Prescott memo claimed the coverage was biased because there was no equivalent program on Kamala Harris.

Yeah real head scratcher that, Michael.
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The whole thing is a true pot pourri of reheated right-wing talking points, random micro-managing moans about individual stories, and some genuine controversies (largely ignored)
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 11, 2025
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In the interests of impartiality, and despite the fact that apparently no-one in the media believes this crisis has been overblown, I thought Lewis Goodall’s perspective on it all was interesting

The truth about impartiality at the BBC

And the hysteria of the current "crisis"
goodallandgoodluck.substack.com
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 11, 2025
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