What the fuck are talking about.
You can find someone polarising and still think they shouldn't have been shot.
No one is justifying anything, now if you are just going to post nonsense like this can you please refrain from talking to me as I can't be bothered with nonsense like this.
it’s not justification, but there plenty of people questioning a shooters motive.No, its advice.
We all have a duty to not inflame situations.
Don't start trying to look for justifications as to why an innocent young Dad was murdered
okay, i'm leaving this now as you clearly are looking for an online fightPlease explain the relevance of him being "polarising" at this exact moment in time?
thanks, no one has done otherwise but have a good dayI'm only going to say one more thing on this.
If when hearing this story, your thoughts on this have been anything but absolute sympathy for his family (no little girl should have to see her Daddy get murdered), then you're an absolute fucking monster
again no evidence of that you are clearly making it up in your headI'm only going to say one more thing on this.
If when hearing this story, your thoughts on this have been anything but absolute sympathy for his family (no little girl should have to see her Daddy get murdered), then you're an absolute fucking monster
If when hearing this story, your thoughts on this have been anything but absolute sympathy for his family (no little girl should have to see her Daddy get murdered), then you're an absolute fucking monster
So likely not the guy that everyone has on videoFBI confirmed in the last few minutes that they've got the person in custody now, no other details yet other than it was from the roof of an academic building 300yds away.
It’s obvious that I’m arguing against the laws themselves.
It’s apparent that Duffer is happy for people to tweet ‘punch a fascist’ but not ‘punch a trans woman in the balls’. If you want to criminalise all violent speech, go ahead and do that. If you want to apply said rules only to people you disagree with, is just fundamentally wrong.
No but this was posted on Twitter yesterday which, with hindsight, is ominous.Do we know anything about the shooter yet?
So tax it, like it should be,all of them.Nobody would miss Twitter if it were taken down tomorrow.
No I think he was confirmed as being releasedSo likely not the guy that everyone has on video
I’ll put it this way then: should someone posting ‘punch a Nazi’ be arrested? My view is absolutely not.Again, you're literally making shit up. Can you read without moving your lips? Christ, school was wasted on some people.
Look again really, really carefully, and slowly and then come back and quote exactly where I've said the law should be applied differently to different people? Or where I've advocated violence against anyone? So it's not 'apparent' at all, that stuff is entirely a figment of your fevered imagination!
You've literally represented the opposite of I've what I've said, and then got all upset about it. It's utterly bizarre.
I've no problem with a reasonable debate on it, but if you're too fucking lazy to bother actually reading stuff, and are just going to make up things, that's not really going to work, is it?
You're saying there's an acceptable way to respond, one way of thinking is acceptable, anything else isn't.
There’s now a video circulating of someone running across the roof opposite. Had my reservations it wasn’t him. I’m confident that was someone who was trained.It wasn't him, he's just a nutjob but not that nutty
Point me to someone on hear who isnt condemning the murderIn the immediate aftermath, yes I am saying that.
Anything other than complete condemnation of the murder, and sympathy for the family is wrong.
In the immediate aftermath, yes I am saying that.
Anything other than complete condemnation of the murder, and sympathy for the family is wrong.
Not reallyPeople's thoughts are their business. You're in sketchy territory when you're telling people how they should think, feel or respond to something.
People who are dragging up old tweets of his, as though they have some relevancePoint me to someone on hear who isnt condemning the murder
It was a tweet last week.People who are dragging up old tweets of his, as though they have some relevance
Really, that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of humanity and is just you seeking to impose your views on other people.Not really
Natural human response to an innocent person being murdered should be pretty universal.
Something has gone wrong with society if it isn't
If Owen Jones was shot at a university event in cold blood, my reactions wouldn’t be any of the following:People's thoughts are their business. You're in sketchy territory when you're telling people how they should think, feel or respond to something.
Something has gone wrong with society if it isn't
Who has not reacted sad?If Owen Jones was shot at a university event in cold blood, my reactions wouldn’t be any of the following:
- you can see why he was polarising [in reply to a controversial tweet]
- he had some pretty horrific views on ‘x, y and z’ things
- he was extreme/far left
- apologist for ‘x’ unpopular person
My reaction would be deeply sad because no one should be executed/murdered for their political views. Even the most despicable people on the extreme fringes.
An attack on free speech is fundamentally an attack on all of us.
It's sh*t what's happened, but prescribing how people can and can't react to this - or to anything - is sketchy.
it's certainly not going online and trying to force people on a forum to think the same as youNot really, I'm entitled to express my opinion, and I know what is a normal reaction to a horrific murder
I actually came on here tonight because I expected it to be an oasis of sanity in an ever more crazy world.it's certainly not going online and trying to force people on a forum to think the same as you
Not really, I'm entitled to express my opinion, and I know what is a normal reaction to a horrific murder
you didn't mate but anyway good nightI actually came on here tonight because I expected it to be an oasis of sanity in an ever more crazy world.
I'm not sure it is though anymore
People were saying earlier how refreshing it was in the way people were reacting on hereNo, you have an opinion on what a normal reaction is. I'm sad about it for lots of reasons, but you're telling me I have to be sad in a particular way or about particular parts of it, which is a bit mad to me.
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