Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That's absolutely fine then.
I've just found the study. Homicide is down 48% compared to 2001.
And I think the point they raise about Rape being up so drastically is partially due to it being more widely reported nowadays than it was before.
I thought this was a discussion? I was just factoring some points that you didn't mention in your original post.That's absolutely fine then.
I was in Amsterdam today, it’s an incredibly safe city (also safer than it felt when I first went twenty years ago) of course it helps that half the population are baked. Though personally I think like a lot of European cities once you get outside the main bit it’s a bit shabby. Rotterdam too. But I think overall the NL is a much nicer public realm and higher trust society than the UK. Not been to Prague.
Personally I prefer London to Amsterdam for visiting and if I had to choose a global city to live in it’s probably a close second to NY. I rarely don’t feel safe in central London and as I say I’ve met people living there across age and class boundaries and not heard a bad word about it tbh.
I thought this was a discussion? I was just factoring some points that you didn't mention in your original post.
When you look and see that murder was down nearly 50% in the last 25 years, it doesn't paint this image that London has gradually become this lawless society.
I spent a year living in 'the ghetto' in Amsterdam and it honestly felt significantly safer than Coventry. People that knew I lived there would make comments but to me it really felt like nothing. Prague has its problems with drug addicts, but they tend to hang around in the same few spots and there's never really any problems. In fact, if they do get too fucked up and start kicking off, the police are there instantly. In regards to having a night out, your biggest threat is a British stag do in Prague 1 looking for a scrap.
London to me always has me looking over my shoulder. A few weeks I go I went from Euston to Heathrow and the whole transit was an eye-opener. Could not relax at all.
Actual London resident here
Feels like petty crime is more visible these days. Kids jumping Lime bikes, lads busting the ticket barriers on the tube, that kind of thing. There are parts of town (mostly Oxford Street and the big shopping centres) where if you get spooked by groups of kids on bikes then you might feel uneasy. Having your phone nicked out of your hand by someone on a bike can cause anxiety, especially as the police will do fuck all if it happens. Focus on that and it’s easy to assume the place is turning into something out of Mad Max.
Do I feel unsafe here? Almost never. The tube in particular feels way safer than public transport in other big cities (and it’s way more reliable these days too). My friends and neighbours here don’t spend their days fretting about the city sliding into lawlessness - it’s a bit of an out-of-towner thing really. Affordability is by far and away the biggest issue. But the petty crime stuff is corrosive and like I say, the police should do much more to tackle it, as it has a big impact on visitors in particular.
Let me know if you need someone to hold your hand next time you go from Euston to Heathrow.You sit in your house all day behind a computer screen, with your only look into the outside world being on a football forum starting arguments.
Opinion rejected.
P.S. Basildon doesn't count as London.
London's population is getting on for x10 of Prague and Amsterdam. What's the point comparing them?
Let me know if you need someone to hold your hand next time you go from Euston to Heathrow.
To be fair you have 6k more posts than him in 3 less yearsYou sit in your house all day behind a computer screen, with your only look into the outside world being on a football forum starting arguments.
Opinion rejected.
P.S. Basildon doesn't count as London.
To be fair you have 6k more posts than him in 3 less years
oh yes I’m sure Cc84!!That's because I only have one account...
I lived in London in the early 00s. I was mugged at knifepoint, couple of other attempted muggings and had someone pull a gun on my on my way home one night. One place I lived it was a known thing to not get off at the nearest tube station at night because you'd basically be running a gauntlet. I feel far far safer in London now than I did then.I have two very good friends that live there, and as I also travel a lot I end up transiting through quite often. I'm on alert the entire time.
Walking around Amsterdam and Prague for me (outside of the crowded tourist areas) feels like utopia in comparison.
Isn’t Amsterdam the murder capital of Europe? Maybe your perceptions of how safe you feel in London is down to the politics you follow rather than statistics. For instance, London isn’t in the top ten of European cities for violent crime, it isn’t even top the UK charts for violent crime.I have two very good friends that live there, and as I also travel a lot I end up transiting through quite often. I'm on alert the entire time.
Walking around Amsterdam and Prague for me (outside of the crowded tourist areas) feels like utopia in comparison.
It literally says as much in the screenshot of the report he posted…And I think the point they raise about Rape being up so drastically is partially due to it being more widely reported nowadays than it was before.
SameAre you there much? I work in London and know a lot of people who live there and never hear anything like what I do from people in this thread I’ve got to be honest. When I’ve been it’s always seemed cleaner and friendlier by miles than it was when I was visiting growing up.
Ill be honest. It was too small for me to read.It literally says as much in the screenshot of the report he posted…
I genuinely don't understand why so many people are nervous or afraid about visiting London. As with all busy cities, the main thing to worry about is pickpockets.
I genuinely don't understand why so many people are nervous or afraid about visiting London. As with all busy cities, the main thing to worry about is pickpockets.
Oh Donny what a master - great to see Starmer cringe - from Khan , farm inheritance tax to net zero - Trump just said it all - Starmer and his village idiots are breaking this country
Just reciting what the twitter algorithm has shown him. Suppose the funny part is how obvious it is that he's still obsessed with twitter and ignores his own social media platform.Oh Donny what a master - great to see Starmer cringe - from Khan , farm inheritance tax to net zero - Trump just said it all - Starmer and his village idiots are breaking this country
Just reciting what the twitter algorithm has shown him. Suppose the funny part is how obvious it is that he's still obsessed with twitter and ignores his own social media platform.
Mad isn't it. You'll see a news tweet that is very country specific and the replies are all blue tick angry yanks. Haven't they got enough to worry about at home?I do wonder if they ever wonder why they have the same set of weirdly specific issues that have nothing to do with their daily life that they’re angry about. Like in a moment wonder why exactly they’re spitting mad about the mayor of a town they don’t live in.
I thought it was mostly Malaysian and Indian blokes?don’t you dare look out your window all the truth is right here being posted by Americans
Mad isn't it. You'll see a news tweet that is very country specific and the replies are all blue tick angry yanks. Haven't they got enough to worry about at home?
It’s genuinely astonishing how far Trump will go to point out how much he likes Starmer, despite the various attempts by the press to bait him into slagging him offBut Starmer had thought he was up Trumps arse far enough
It’s genuinely astonishing how far Trump will go to point out how much he likes Starmer, despite the various attempts by the press to bait him into slagging him off
It’s because Starmer is one of his biggest fluffersIt’s genuinely astonishing how far Trump will go to point out how much he likes Starmer, despite the various attempts by the press to bait him into slagging him off
It’s genuinely astonishing how far Trump will go to point out how much he likes Starmer, despite the various attempts by the press to bait him into slagging him off
Grown up politicsGiven Starmer spends all his time rimming him where’s the surprise
It’s because Starmer is one of his biggest fluffers
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