Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That's absolutely fine then.
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That's absolutely fine then.
Ccfcisparks
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I thought this was a discussion? I was just factoring some points that you didn't mention in your original post.
When you look and see that murder was down nearly 50% in the last 25 years, it doesn't paint this image that London has gradually become this lawless society.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I spent a year living in 'the ghetto' in Amsterdam and it honestly felt significantly safer than Coventry. People that knew I lived there would make comments but to me it really felt like nothing. Prague has its problems with drug addicts, but they tend to hang around in the same few spots and there's never really any problems. In fact, if they do get too fucked up and start kicking off, the police are there instantly. In regards to having a night out, your biggest threat is a British stag do in Prague 1 looking for a scrap.
London to me always has me looking over my shoulder. A few weeks I go I went from Euston to Heathrow and the whole transit was an eye-opener. Could not relax at all.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Statistics can of course come with such interpretations, but such a rise in rape? Come on man. You can't just dismiss that as more people reporting things without giving it a second look. It is hard to take you seriously in that case. You can argue the homicide rate has gone down, but knife crime has significantly gone up. How do you define that safety wise by city standards?
They'll always be one way you can swing something, or another, granted. Other than this thread though, I don't know a single person that feels safe walking around that city. They aren't all right-wing bigots addicted to Twitter.
Actual London resident here 
Feels like petty crime is more visible these days. Kids jumping Lime bikes, lads busting the ticket barriers on the tube, that kind of thing. There are parts of town (mostly Oxford Street and the big shopping centres) where if you get spooked by groups of kids on bikes then you might feel uneasy. Having your phone nicked out of your hand by someone on a bike can cause anxiety, especially as the police will do fuck all if it happens. Focus on that and it’s easy to assume the place is turning into something out of Mad Max.
Do I feel unsafe here? Almost never. The tube in particular feels way safer than public transport in other big cities (and it’s way more reliable these days too). My friends and neighbours here don’t spend their days fretting about the city sliding into lawlessness - it’s a bit of an out-of-towner thing really. Affordability is by far and away the biggest issue. But the petty crime stuff is corrosive and like I say, the police should do much more to tackle it, as it has a big impact on visitors in particular.
Feels like petty crime is more visible these days. Kids jumping Lime bikes, lads busting the ticket barriers on the tube, that kind of thing. There are parts of town (mostly Oxford Street and the big shopping centres) where if you get spooked by groups of kids on bikes then you might feel uneasy. Having your phone nicked out of your hand by someone on a bike can cause anxiety, especially as the police will do fuck all if it happens. Focus on that and it’s easy to assume the place is turning into something out of Mad Max.
Do I feel unsafe here? Almost never. The tube in particular feels way safer than public transport in other big cities (and it’s way more reliable these days too). My friends and neighbours here don’t spend their days fretting about the city sliding into lawlessness - it’s a bit of an out-of-towner thing really. Affordability is by far and away the biggest issue. But the petty crime stuff is corrosive and like I say, the police should do much more to tackle it, as it has a big impact on visitors in particular.
shmmeee
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I think if you’re generally worried about a load of black and Arab lads hanging about on fat bikes it’s pretty similar. I think NL and other EU countries I’ve been to have managed to protect their culture better, and I think most of that is not speaking English and not having the American cultural domination. Side note: it struck me recently talking the the missus how we never had a “British Internet” really and always shared spaces with the yanks from the start but other countries did because of the language barrier. Back to the point: I think we’ve either not taken up commercial and public spaces because of our own cultural inability to define ourselves and that’s left more space for immigrant culture to be visible in the vacuum, but I think that’s downstream of American domination of English language media and culture and not immigration or general decline.
I think homelessness is a much bigger problem in the UK certainly in terms of visibility. But I think graffiti is far worse on the continent. In conclusion, Europe is a land of contrasts.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Actual London resident here
Feels like petty crime is more visible these days. Kids jumping Lime bikes, lads busting the ticket barriers on the tube, that kind of thing. There are parts of town (mostly Oxford Street and the big shopping centres) where if you get spooked by groups of kids on bikes then you might feel uneasy. Having your phone nicked out of your hand by someone on a bike can cause anxiety, especially as the police will do fuck all if it happens. Focus on that and it’s easy to assume the place is turning into something out of Mad Max.
Do I feel unsafe here? Almost never. The tube in particular feels way safer than public transport in other big cities (and it’s way more reliable these days too). My friends and neighbours here don’t spend their days fretting about the city sliding into lawlessness - it’s a bit of an out-of-towner thing really. Affordability is by far and away the biggest issue. But the petty crime stuff is corrosive and like I say, the police should do much more to tackle it, as it has a big impact on visitors in particular.
You sit in your house all day behind a computer screen, with your only look into the outside world being on a football forum starting arguments.
Opinion rejected.
P.S. Basildon doesn't count as London.
Let me know if you need someone to hold your hand next time you go from Euston to Heathrow.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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If you are really insistent on continuing to miss the point, do Tokyo or Caracas.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Ccfcisparks
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To be fair you have 6k more posts than him in 3 less years
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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To be fair you have 6k more posts than him in 3 less years
That's because I only have one account...
Ccfcisparks
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oh yes I’m sure Cc84!!
chiefdave
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I lived in London in the early 00s. I was mugged at knifepoint, couple of other attempted muggings and had someone pull a gun on my on my way home one night. One place I lived it was a known thing to not get off at the nearest tube station at night because you'd basically be running a gauntlet. I feel far far safer in London now than I did then.
Not sure it's easy to compare with European cities as I find England as a whole is lagging way behind many places in Europe now. Not as a result of immigration, as a result of years, decades now really, of austerity alongside selling off all our public services.
Its no wonder the Eastern Europeans that were once happy to come here for work now choose to stay at home.
skybluetony176
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Isn’t Amsterdam the murder capital of Europe? Maybe your perceptions of how safe you feel in London is down to the politics you follow rather than statistics. For instance, London isn’t in the top ten of European cities for violent crime, it isn’t even top the UK charts for violent crime.
It literally says as much in the screenshot of the report he posted…
Sky Blue Pete
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Same
But There’s clearly areas that are not
Ccfcisparks
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Farmer Jim
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London is just an amplified version of every other city in the country.
Lots more people > lots more crime > lots more money to make from crime > lots more serious levels violence related to crime.
Are there parts of it that you wouldn`t feel safe at night or even go to during the day, due to the gangs, yes, but this also applies on a more localised version of every single city in the UK.
shmmeee
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Because like everything else they spend all day scared about things they don’t understand that the Twitter algo has told them to be scared of and don’t you dare look out your window all the truth is right here being posted by Americans.
See:
Not an original thought among them. Just whatever slop Elon Musk has put in their feed recently.
chiefdave
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Just reciting what the twitter algorithm has shown him. Suppose the funny part is how obvious it is that he's still obsessed with twitter and ignores his own social media platform.
shmmeee
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I do wonder if they ever wonder why they have the same set of weirdly specific issues that have nothing to do with their daily life that they’re angry about. Like in a moment wonder why exactly they’re spitting mad about the mayor of a town they don’t live in.
chiefdave
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Mad isn't it. You'll see a news tweet that is very country specific and the replies are all blue tick angry yanks. Haven't they got enough to worry about at home?
I thought it was mostly Malaysian and Indian blokes?
shmmeee
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I *still* couldn’t tell you the West Midlands mayor without googling. But I think that may be an unfair comparison as he seems especially nondescript.
It’s genuinely astonishing how far Trump will go to point out how much he likes Starmer, despite the various attempts by the press to bait him into slagging him off
shmmeee
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Meanwhile…
Nigel Farage snubbed for Trump's inauguration despite flying out to the US again
Nigel Farage was snubbed for Donald Trump's presidential inauguration ceremony, despite flying to the US again for the event.
www.thelondoneconomic.com
Something something far up arse
Brighton Sky Blue
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Grown up politics
Because that's the only way to get through to the orange idiot.