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  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 11, 2023
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Anyone know what kicked off behind Tesco ? Police surrounding a pretty big group of fans and getting annoyed with other ( Cov) fans who were trying to have a go at them. They temporarily shut the main road .
I was surprised just how many police there were. Perhaps it had been going on for a bit. I'd been shopping in Tesco. A box of celebration already half gone.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Nov 11, 2023
  • #2
I saw someone get tackled by about 5 stewards outside the east stand
 

Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2023
  • #3
skybluecam said:
I saw someone get tackled by about 5 stewards outside the east stand
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Was it Haji Wright?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 11, 2023
  • #4
Nick said:
Was it Haji Wright?
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Would have been unnecessary. Could have used a single ballboy.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 11, 2023
  • #5
A lot of stoke fans were told to get the bus instead of the train but weren’t told where to get the buses. A load seemed to be hanging about looking for the buses at the back of Tesco. When i went past the police were trying to explain to a group of about 20 kids where the buses were.
 
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jeycov

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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eastwoodsdustman said:
A lot of stoke fans were told to get the bus instead of the train but weren’t told where to get the buses. A load seemed to be hanging about looking for the buses at the back of Tesco. When i went past the police were trying to explain to a group of about 20 kids where the buses were.
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The scheduled train back to Coventry railway station was cancelled
Little or no guidance re where buses were , even then the problem would have reoccurred in the city centre as they tried to find the railway station
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #7
Loads were unsure where to go, big group hanging around Bedlam lane.

Like most ground the signs are very poor you have to chance it you are walking in the right direction.

Find it funny that they have a large expance of no mans land in the carpark for both sets of fans to merge at the top of the hill, what a complete waste of time.
 
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Captain_Slackbladder

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #8
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Anyone know what kicked off behind Tesco ? Police surrounding a pretty big group of fans and getting annoyed with other ( Cov) fans who were trying to have a go at them. They temporarily shut the main road .
I was surprised just how many police there were. Perhaps it had been going on for a bit. I'd been shopping in Tesco. A box of celebration already half gone.
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There's your answer, if you had shared them then they wouldn't have kicked off. Half for Stoke, half for Coventry and everyone shakes hands and is happy. I imagine the police will be onto you for inciting a riot!
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #9
Hasn't been much trouble at the CBS since that first season back.

It's an absolute shit show for fans traveling by public transport. The train line will never be sorted so they should organise a proper bus service to and from the station.

Hundreds of Stoke fans travelled by train yesterday and none of them knew how to get home. This is a Championship stadium with 25,000 fans and there's not a proper shuttle service to town.

When the club were pushed on it, Boddy waffled about how there are a few bus routes back into town. That's not good enough. None of them go to the station. Most of them require fans to walk to Folshill Road.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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I did notice a bus that had half a dozen police on the top deck and that had 4 police wagons following it in the city centre. Presumably because of some mean football fans from Stoke who all had to get on for the police to justify their presence
 

Mcbean

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #11
This is not good enough the club should offer clear instructions in the program or on their website
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #12
skybluecam said:
I saw someone get tackled by about 5 stewards outside the east stand
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Yes I saw that, then it looked like some lads were trying to put the boot in when the bloke was on the floor.
 

Hobo

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #13
They would of had some knowledge of how many Stoke fans came by train. So put a bus on from the away end straight to the station.
 
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Captain_Slackbladder

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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pusbccfc said:
Hasn't been much trouble at the CBS since that first season back.

It's an absolute shit show for fans traveling by public transport. The train line will never be sorted so they should organise a proper bus service to and from the station.

Hundreds of Stoke fans travelled by train yesterday and none of them knew how to get home. This is a Championship stadium with 25,000 fans and there's not a proper shuttle service to town.

When the club were pushed on it, Boddy waffled about how there are a few bus routes back into town. That's not good enough. None of them go to the station. Most of them require fans to walk to Folshill Road.
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Stoke's set up at home isn't dissimilar, the difference is when you come out of the away end there are buses and coaches waiting. The whole set up of the arena has been a mess from day one. The train station is some sort of 21st century folly.

If I has wanted to design a set up for groups of lads to meet each other in a set up that is hard to police then I couldn't have designed it better.

I still think the tunnel under the railway is only one moment of panic away from a tragic crush
 
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theferret

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #15
Hobo said:
They would of had some knowledge of how many Stoke fans came by train. So put a bus on from the away end straight to the station.
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At Stoke they do exactly that. Buses laid on outside the away end straight to the station.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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Captain_Slackbladder said:
Stoke's set up at home isn't dissimilar, the difference is when you come out of the away end there are buses and coaches waiting. The whole set up of the arena has been a mess from day one. The train station is some sort of 21st century folly.

If I has wanted to design a set up for groups of lads to meet each other in a set up that is hard to police then I couldn't have designed it better.

I still think the tunnel under the railway is only one moment of panic away from a tragic crush
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Yep, and Reading. Miles from the station but at least there is a very popular shuttle bus priced at £4/5 return. It seems mental that the local transport companies haven't spotted a gap in the market to make money.

Also agree with the tunnel. Obviously they added the second one years back but it's still very tight with the shambolic kettling of fans down there.

I'm still hoping all parties will bang their heads together and finally spend the money to sort that train line out. If Mike Ashley wants to host regular concerts, the stadium needs a station. It's 2023.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #17
Captain_Slackbladder said:
Stoke's set up at home isn't dissimilar, the difference is when you come out of the away end there are buses and coaches waiting. The whole set up of the arena has been a mess from day one. The train station is some sort of 21st century folly.

If I has wanted to design a set up for groups of lads to meet each other in a set up that is hard to police then I couldn't have designed it better.

I still think the tunnel under the railway is only one moment of panic away from a tragic crush
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Never liked that tunnel after the game. Pre game its sound. After the game i leave the back of the North simtand and go over the green railway bridge towards the back of tesco, just feels safer
 
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Ashdown

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #18
It’s often better to just have a last drink at the Anecdote or casino afterwards and let the mayhem die down . There used to be double decker shuttle buses outside the stadium, have they all been scrapped ?
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #19
I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know you could get a train from the arena back to the station after the game…
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #20
pusbccfc said:
Hasn't been much trouble at the CBS since that first season back.

It's an absolute shit show for fans traveling by public transport. The train line will never be sorted so they should organise a proper bus service to and from the station.

Hundreds of Stoke fans travelled by train yesterday and none of them knew how to get home. This is a Championship stadium with 25,000 fans and there's not a proper shuttle service to town.

When the club were pushed on it, Boddy waffled about how there are a few bus routes back into town. That's not good enough. None of them go to the station. Most of them require fans to walk to Folshill Road.
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It isn't the club's role to provide public transport

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ccfc1234

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #21
No shuttle busses, no plan or proper
communication of a fan travel plan.

If only the SAG were as in charge of this part of the match day experience, fans would be on coaches in alphabetical order before you can say incompetent!
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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fernandopartridge said:
It isn't the club's role to provide public transport

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No, but other events have regular shuttle buses to the station. There was buses in place for the Arctic Monkeys gig and the England Women's matches.

It seems no one has actually sat down and discussed it even though it's in the best interests of Transport for West Midlands, WMP and CCFC.
 
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jeycov

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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fernandopartridge said:
It isn't the club's role to provide public transport

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The club need to work together with the police, transport organisations ( rail and bus)
The stewards, who have a thankless task, could be used to guide away fans to these options
Travelling on this train on non match days, replacement buses are used but probably not enough to transport the volume of fans ( both home and away)
The Stoke ground is situated in a very inconvenient area which ids basically a trading estate
They get the away fans buses to the station as a priority
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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Ashdown said:
It’s often better to just have a last drink at the Anecdote or casino afterwards and let the mayhem die down . There used to be double decker shuttle buses outside the stadium, have they all been scrapped ?
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There haven't been double deckers to town since around 2010 I believe.

If they planned it properly, they could create a bus stand like at Reading. £5 return to Cov station.

It seems Reading funded part of it previously but pulled out this season. Even at £5.50, away fans would pay it.

Reading Buses matchday fares increased in 'unavoidable' decision

Reading FC has allegedly cut its funding which contributed to the price increase
www.getreading.co.uk
 
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hill83

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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Captain_Slackbladder said:
I still think the tunnel under the railway is only one moment of panic away from a tragic crush
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Had to go through that yesterday. We normally go up the ramp to the right but the coach went to a different place. Proper dodgy, especially with my lad.
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #26
I’d think it’s a CCC & Police issue, train going through station is normally only one carriage sometimes two.

As for that ramp it’s an incident waiting to happen after the game.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #27
Captain_Slackbladder said:
There's your answer, if you had shared them then they wouldn't have kicked off. Half for Stoke, half for Coventry and everyone shakes hands and is happy. I imagine the police will be onto you for inciting a riot!
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What ?
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #28
There were shuttle buses put on but no one used them so the bus company sacked them off
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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pusbccfc said:
There haven't been double deckers to town since around 2010 I believe.

If they planned it properly, they could create a bus stand like at Reading. £5 return to Cov station.

It seems Reading funded part of it previously but pulled out this season. Even at £5.50, away fans would pay it.

Reading Buses matchday fares increased in 'unavoidable' decision

Reading FC has allegedly cut its funding which contributed to the price increase
www.getreading.co.uk
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no one used them when the did run them though
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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David O'Day said:
There were shuttle buses put on but no one used them so the bus company sacked them off
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Attendances are higher, especially from away fans and more people want to travel by public transport now.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #31
pusbccfc said:
Attendances are higher, especially from away fans and more people want to travel by public transport now.
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no one used them even when we had big crowds so there won't shuttle buses while the bus company thinks they will lose money
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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pusbccfc said:
Attendances are higher, especially from away fans and more people want to travel by public transport now.
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Should we get to the promised land it’s likely to be 4/4500 away every game, including evening games.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #33
David O'Day said:
no one used them even when we had big crowds so there won't shuttle buses while the bus company thinks they will lose money
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There haven't been shuttles since 2009? Crowds are up from then, especially away attendances. Parking is incredibly expensive now and we're in a time when car travel is being discouraged.

We must have the most difficult ground to get to by public transport in the top two divisions?
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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slowpoke said:
Should we get to the promised land it’s likely to be 4/4500 away every game, including evening games.
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We'd limit it to 3000 and fill the ground ourselves.

I guarantee they would put on shuttle's then. Just like they do for other events at the stadium.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 12, 2023
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pusbccfc said:
There haven't been shuttles since 2009? Crowds are up from then, especially away attendances. Parking is incredibly expensive now and we're in a time when car travel is being discouraged.

We must have the most difficult ground to get to by public transport in the top two divisions?
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ok mate, i'll add this to the list of things you are clueless about

The bus company lost lots money, they don't want to do put shuttle buses on as they don't think it is worth it for them when they can still make plenty of money on normal routes

It's not about what is best for the supporters, it's capitalism. There won't be shuttle buses while they don't think it is worth their time.
 
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