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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,396
Balli001 said:
Would be a point if the keeper gets injured
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Imagine Collins getting sent off in the second minute and Sakamoto has to come on in goal.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,397
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In the past 20 years how many times have we needed to bring a keeper on?
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I mean the first four games of last season. We didn’t, but we needed to!
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,398
shmmeee said:
Bold? What do you do if they’re injured or sent off? Sure it’s a once every couple of years occurrence, but you’re basically writing a game off if it happens.

Are you saying the 50-100 games with an extra sub is worth the one game you need it? I can see that.
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Outfield player concert?
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,399
wingy said:
Outfield player concert?
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,400
The only thing I’d say is how often have we left a player out of the squad who we needed during a game? Probably just as often as we’ve subbed a keeper.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,401
shmmeee said:
The only thing I’d say is how often have we left a player out of the squad who we needed during a game? Probably just as often as we’ve subbed a keeper.
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We've never had the depth to do that
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,402
Ccfcisparks said:
We've never had the depth to do that
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Have we now?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,403
shmmeee said:
Have we now?
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I'd hope by the end of the window we will Shmmeee! I'm confident we will
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,404
shmmeee said:
Bold? What do you do if they’re injured or sent off? Sure it’s a once every couple of years occurrence, but you’re basically writing a game off if it happens.

Are you saying the 50-100 games with an extra sub is worth the one game you need it? I can see that.
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That is basically what I’m saying. In the last 20 years I think we’ve been forced into it about 3 times, most recently when Marosi got his cheek broken against Cardiff in the last few minutes. Last time before that I think when Michael Quirke came on at Watford in 2010.

Up till now we haven’t had the depth to justify it, this season we might.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,405
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That is basically what I’m saying. In the last 20 years I think we’ve been forced into it about 3 times, most recently when Marosi got his cheek broken against Cardiff in the last few minutes. Last time before that I think when Michael Quirke came on at Watford in 2010.

Up till now we haven’t had the depth to justify it, this season we might.
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If it DID happen this year, and we didnt have a back up keeper, we are basically forfeiting the game. I'd suggest there isnt a marginal gain from having an extra outfield player on the bench to warrant the risk of not having a keeper.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,406
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Perhaps controversial but I don’t see the point in having a keeper on the bench.
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Crazy not to, what if your keeper gets a head injury or pops a shoulder?
Or Wilson gets himself sent off for his blatant time-wasting.
It's not as if there isn't space on the bench now.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,407
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Turner saying we’re after another LCB. Which is good news. That would be the defence sorted for the season.
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Shame we didn’t get that young lad from Arsenal, would have been good for the future


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SBT

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,408
Balli001 said:
Imagine with Eccles sakamoto latibeaudiere and Burroughs he won't be rushing to sign a rwb
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We only have five RWB options at the moment, Robins needs to bring in at least six or seven more before next weekend
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,409
fatso said:
Crazy not to, what if your keeper gets a head injury or pops a shoulder?
Or Wilson gets himself sent off for his blatant time-wasting.
It's not as if there isn't space on the bench now.
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Perhaps now with room for 9 on the bench it’s fine, but back when it was 5 or even 7 it’s taking the place of an outfield player who can impact the game in far more scenarios than a sub keeper. Warnock did it a lot in the 2000s/2010s.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,410
Balli001 said:
We had zero budget. We signed maguire as proof of that. I just don't see us this window signing 2 players for the same position on loan.
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We did last year with Panzo and Doyle


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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,411
Ccfcisparks said:
Kitching on a permanent would make me forget McNally.
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Is Kitching that good yeah? Don’t know anything about him


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Balli001

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,412
Last year we didnt have a budget to sign permanent quality players. Quote me on it if you want but we aren't signing 2 loans for the same position in defence
Skybluedownunder said:
We did last year with Panzo and Doyle


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Evo1883

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,413
shmmeee said:
Hope so, would be a shame if this window meant we pushed out the likes of Burroughs Eccles and Howley completely. Hopefully it just means we can blood them properly.
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Actually think it will give howley the opportunity to be loaned out somewhere to play regularly
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,414
How many times in the last ten years have we had to leave a game-changing option off the bench to make room for a sub keeper?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,415
SBT said:
How many times in the last ten years have we had to leave a game-changing option off the bench to make room for a sub keeper?
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That must be the reason all those times Bright didn't make the squad, and not the fact he was AWOL
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,416
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That is basically what I’m saying. In the last 20 years I think we’ve been forced into it about 3 times, most recently when Marosi got his cheek broken against Cardiff in the last few minutes. Last time before that I think when Michael Quirke came on at Watford in 2010.

Up till now we haven’t had the depth to justify it, this season we might.
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Danny Ireland
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,417
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That is basically what I’m saying. In the last 20 years I think we’ve been forced into it about 3 times, most recently when Marosi got his cheek broken against Cardiff in the last few minutes. Last time before that I think when Michael Quirke came on at Watford in 2010.

Up till now we haven’t had the depth to justify it, this season we might.
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I totally get what you're saying, and with 5 subs, i think it would be worth the risk of not having a gk sub, so you can cover more outfield positions.
However, with 9 subs, you can have 8 outfield replacements, which really should cover every position, so i would definitely pick a GK sub, as it is a specialist position.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,418
Skybluedownunder said:
Shame we didn’t get that young lad from Arsenal, would have been good for the future


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Yea, but once Southampton showed an interest it would of been impossible to compete with wages.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,419
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Perhaps now with room for 9 on the bench it’s fine, but back when it was 5 or even 7 it’s taking the place of an outfield player who can impact the game in far more scenarios than a sub keeper. Warnock did it a lot in the 2000s/2010s.
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I think there’s a very solid argument with five subs.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,420
Ccfcisparks said:
I'm puzzled by the rush for Bashir Humphreys. Only played 12 professional games.
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Guehi hadn’t played much before he went to Swansea on loan from Chelsea, nor Colwill at Huddersfield.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,421
Ccfcisparks said:
Kitching on a permanent would make me forget McNally.
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Is he really that good though? Is he as good or better than what we've brought in already?

I don't know a lot about him tbf, but I see he's played most of his football at lower league level, and only had 1 season at championship level.

(You could say the same for Doyle and Mcnally I guess)
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,422
I think the plan was probably to invest a decent amount in 1 young centre back this summer and that seems to be Thomas.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,423
SleepyGinger said:
Guehi hadn’t played much before he went to Swansea on loan from Chelsea, nor Colwill at Huddersfield.
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For every Guehi though theres a Tayo Adaramola. I'd rather have players with experience
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,424
I’m not fussed about McNally now we have Thomas, we need another LCB. They’re like gold dust at the minute, hence why we haven’t owned one since League Two.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,425
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In the past 20 years how many times have we needed to bring a keeper on?
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I do sort of get your logic to be fair
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,426
Ccfcisparks said:
For every Guehi though theres a Tayo Adaramola. I'd rather have players with experience
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Tayo hadn’t played a professional game and came from palace, Humphries has been playing in the 2nd division in Germany and played most of Chelsea pre Season games, clearly highly thought of.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,427
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In the past 20 years how many times have we needed to bring a keeper on?
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I still wear a seat belt though (law aside) despite never having my life saved by one.

You never know!!!
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,428
2 forwards please, can't rely on Godden and an Aldi version of Leon Clarke.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,429
Greggs said:
2 forwards please, can't rely on Godden and an Aldi version of Leon Clarke.
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Now now Greggs, he’ll score goals
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 29, 2023
  • #3,430
Matt smith said:
Now now Greggs, he’ll score goals
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4 or 5?
 
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