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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,591
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
Eccles is a good player, but at this level in my opinion he struggles at the minute and isn’t a first choice - he’s a decent bench option…he is probably under the right management team to bring any potential out though

Having said that, if you compare him to say Maddison at this stage then JM was head and shoulders above where Eccles is, and I couldn’t see a premier league team looking at Eccles, or to be honest even a team at our level - you may think different?

I personally prefer Latibeaudiere playing with Sheaf in midfield and I think Sheaf also looks better with a more defensively solid player alongside him
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I don’t think it’s worthwhile comparing Eccles (or any of our players!) to England internationals.
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,592
Sick Boy said:
Weren’t you claiming Wright was shit a few weeks ago?
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He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,593
fatso said:
He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
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So you were wrong then. Thanks for confrming
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,594
Balli001 said:
So you were wrong then. Thanks for confrming
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He's having a little purple spell, let's see his stats at the end of the season.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,595
fatso said:
He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
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He's not a left sided midfielder though?

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Martin180

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,596
fatso said:
He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
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Left sided midfielder?
 

Martin180

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,597
TomRad85 said:
He's not a left sided midfielder though?

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That's like saying Mo Salah is a right sided midfielder
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,598
fatso said:
He's having a little purple spell, let's see his stats at the end of the season.
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Patch.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,599
Martin180 said:
Left sided midfielder?
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Why eat humble pie when you have the option to embarrass yourself further?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,600
TomRad85 said:
Why eat humble pie when you have the option to embarrass yourself further?

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Judging by his username he’s watching his weight
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,601
fatso said:
What has Simms done that literally any other striker from non league could have done, and probably better?
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Non league? Fucking hell you’re dumb
 
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Martin180

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,602
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Judging by his username he’s watching his weight
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He certainly isn't watching our forwards
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,603
Martin180 said:
He certainly isn't watching our forwards
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He should stop watching football altogether with his brain dead views. Simms has a goal and two assists in the last three games and is clearly improving. Even Stevie Wonder would be able to see that. He’s a clueless moron
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,604
Martin180 said:
He certainly isn't watching our forwards
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Probably started the ‘Haji Wrong Wrong Wrong’ chant
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,605
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Probably started the ‘Haji Wrong Wrong Wrong’ chant
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He’s probably the loudmouth prick that sits behind me who blames Simms and Wright for things even when the ball is nowhere near them
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,606
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
Eccles is a good player, but at this level in my opinion he struggles at the minute and isn’t a first choice - he’s a decent bench option…he is probably under the right management team to bring any potential out though

Having said that, if you compare him to say Maddison at this stage then JM was head and shoulders above where Eccles is, and I couldn’t see a premier league team looking at Eccles, or to be honest even a team at our level - you may think different?

I personally prefer Latibeaudiere playing with Sheaf in midfield and I think Sheaf also looks better with a more defensively solid player alongside him
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Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,607
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
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It is weird I agree.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,608
Anyway any rumours today?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,609
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
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I think it's because we see their growing pains, so they're fixed as that standard forever.

Perversely for loanees the opposite happens. How they are years later is used as justification for how they were then.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,610
fatso said:
He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
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And sleep….
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,611
fatso said:
He's having a little purple spell, let's see his stats at the end of the season.
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“Please be shit so I’m right”


Would you rather 3 points against Leicester or internet points?
 
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sneferu

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,612
Vic played mainly on the left. Does that make him a left sided midfielder?
fatso said:
He's a £7.7 million pound centre forward, who's failed as a centre forward.

I'm delighted he's doing exceptionally well as a left sided midfielder, (long may it continue) but he was brought in as a centre forward, and has failed at such.

And now we still need another centre forward.
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mmttww

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,613
fatso said:
...who's failed as a centre forward.
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Bore off.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,614
procdoc said:
Anyway any rumours today?
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No but can still chuck some names back in

Sem Steijn
Gianluca Busio
Karim Konaté
 

JimmyHillsbeard

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,615
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
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since moving from a confected right wing back to his preferred midfield position he’s been mostly very good.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,616
JimmyHillsbeard said:
since moving from a confected right wing back to his preferred midfield position he’s been mostly very good.
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Never let us down at RWB though to be fair
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,617
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
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the issue for eccles is he is a very good steady midfielder who is important to us in that he does a lot of the hard work and is also very good at filling gaps left by other people but people seem to think he needs to be pinging worldie passes all over the pitch to be any good
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,618
David O'Day said:
the issue for eccles is he is a very good steady midfielder who is important to us in that he does a lot of the hard work and is also very good at fill gaps left by other people but people seem to think he should be pinging worldie passes all over the pitch to be any good
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It would help if we had someone capable of pinging said worldies though.
 
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Martin180

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,619
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It would help if we had someone capable of pinging said worldies though.
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Thats where both Sheaf and Eccles fall short of Premier League class
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,620
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It would help if we had someone capable of pinging said worldies though.
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yeah, not so much now though as the new system makes it less important
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,621
SleepyGinger said:
Never let us down at RWB though to be fair
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Thiught he was our best option most of last season tbh
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,622
Martin180 said:
Thats where both Sheaf and Eccles fall short of Premier League class
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It’s the missing ingredient this team needs to cement itself in the top 6 I think. Hence why I’m not convinced we’ll end up there with this current group.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,623
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles would get into a lot of other sides in this league, he's a decent player and just do not get the antipathy towards him. It's the same with most home grown players, they're given some weird handicap by the fans.
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He is currently a very decent squad player and we are lucky to have him. Where I think he draws critical comments is for how he makes relatively few progressive passes to forwards and more noticeably on Saturday against a very average Oxford and disproportionately in other games gets caught in possession. The best midfield players are constantly scanning whats around them as they operate in a congested area of the pitch, that way if they get the ball they already have a picture to make decisions about. Eccles a couple of times at the weekend received the ball and turned straight into trouble and turned the ball over. Other than these two areas much of his game is defiantly underrated and he still has time to improve.
 

Martin180

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,624
ccfc1234 said:
He is currently a very decent squad player and we are lucky to have him. Where I think he draws critical comments is for how he makes relatively few progressive passes to forwards and more noticeably on Saturday against a very average Oxford and disproportionately in other games gets caught in possession. The best midfield players are constantly scanning whats around them as they operate in a congested area of the pitch, that way if they get the ball they already have a picture to make decisions about. Eccles a couple of times at the weekend received the ball and turned straight into trouble and turned the ball over. Other than these two areas much of his game is defiantly underrated and he still has time to improve.
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He's had a hand in a lot of goals this season with his early balls up to the forwards
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jan 9, 2024
  • #9,625
Martin180 said:
He's had a hand in a lot of goals this season with his early balls up to the forwards
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If you can back that up with stats it would be useful? I am sad enough sometimes to watch games I see live back in full and I suggest of the midfielders he plays the least progressive passes per match on a consistent basis but would no doubt have great sideways pass completion stats.
My main point in the reply was to the suggestion that he gets disproportionate level of criticism and I think it's because he gets caught in possession far more than others and those things are far more noticeable to fans watching.
 
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