Hobo
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Also Gary Thompson to WBA after reaching a League Cup Semi Final (when it was still a decent competion) and we had a first team squad of about 15 players
Who remembers Dennis Mortimer going to Villa? Far and away our best player of the time.
Also Gary Thompson to WBA after reaching a League Cup Semi Final (when it was still a decent competion) and we had a first team squad of about 15 players
It’s a twist of history - we could have had Clough as manager (who would have probably, well more than probably signed Francis, we clearly had the money) and who knows.Yes. The club had already shown that it had little ambition to compete at the top end of the first division by then (with the Mortimer sale). They seemed to be quite wealthy by the late 70s with a serious bid for Trevor Francis from the Bennies but then, as you say, top players left Ian Wallace, Gary Thompson etc to fund the new training ground, I think. It all seems like deja vu!
It’s a twist of history - we could have had Clough as manager (who would have probably, well more than probably signed Francis, we clearly had the money) and who knows.
Life is a series of fine margin calls.
Wasn't Hamer a 'calculated gamble'? And Gyokeres?"Calculated gambles" are a fools game. The club needs to run self sufficiently before anything else.
There are far too many fans with goldfish memories on here who have seemingly forgotten where spending money we don't have got us.
I'll be gutted to see a key player leave but that is the reality of where we stand... But give me striving in the Championship with stable foundations than gambling away our future with the risk of landing back in league 2
I have a feeling if we can ride out the post COVID finances and still have a competitive squad we will be miles ahead of loads of teams that are overreaching themselves financially.
It's how those obsessed with money work. Never want to pay for anything but want rewards just for being there.We have a very strange ownership really. Most company owners invest to create value in the company and the extract a share. Our owners invest no money but extract value from the company's activities anyway.
To quote Arsene Wenger, Success and failure is often decided by millimetres.
SISU in a sentence, at least some of us recognise our owners.It's how those obsessed with money work. Never want to pay for anything but want rewards just for being there.
We have a very strange ownership really. Most company owners invest to create value in the company and the extract a share. Our owners invest no money but extract value from the company's activities anyway.
Oh hang on a second, we bought Conor Chaplin 3 years agoSISU in a sentence, at least some of us recognise our owners.
Getting horrible flashbacks of that miss against Sunderland first year back in League 1. He did at least redeem himself later on in the seasonOh hang on a second, we bought Conor Chaplin 3 years ago
Get of the owners backs
I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeksI have no doubt we are a selling club but other factors surely contribute to the extent that we rely on that being our primary business model? We were a selling club when we were exiled in Northampton and when we had 8000 often disillusioned fans at the Ricoh.
The club are currently riding a feel good wave of fan emotion and have one of the better upward trajectories of all clubs in the football league, this optimism is evidenced by the record number of season tickets sales we have made for 2022/2023. Therefore unless the sale is for extremely good money and it is explicitly and publicly authorarised by Robins allowing him to sign 2 or 3 important players or put towards the stadium, that psychological contract will once again begin to be damaged.
Joy and Tim need to remember how toxic things were recently and if they want to cash in fine, but make it explicitly clear to the fans what the rationale is.
Fans want to trust Boddy when he says that the best way to back the club is buying season tickets in your thousands. But if they then do that as well as buying merchandise at record levels but all roads lead to the same place it is disheartening to say the least.
I really appreciate your insight and I am not having a go at you personally but I just perhaps stupidly hoped with us being so tangibly close last year, putting some of the best in the league to the sword (without that little bit of cutting edge) we would take a calculated gamble this summer and build on some exciting foundations.
Is Joy starting her own university course too?I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeks
Don’t think we did have the money the Trevor Francis deal was in tandem with Jimmy Hills American adventure Washington Diplomats I think he would have been their player and loaned back to us when their season endedIt’s a twist of history - we could have had Clough as manager (who would have probably, well more than probably signed Francis, we clearly had the money) and who knows.
Life is a series of fine margin calls.
I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeks
I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeks
Garry Thompson was one of a number of players flogged by chairman Jimmy Hill along with Garry Gillespie, Paul Dyson, Mark Hateley, Steve Hunt, Danny Thomas, those last three became England internationals there were others.Also Gary Thompson to WBA after reaching a League Cup Semi Final (when it was still a decent competion) and we had a first team squad of about 15 players
Not on the illustrious owners backs, just stating fact.Oh hang on a second, we bought Conor Chaplin 3 years ago
Get of the owners backs
Can't wait.
All clubs buy and sell.
Can we leave it with the 'selling club' shit please?
The issue is where that money goes, for us a couple of handbags for Joy, for others into signing new players to strengthenI think people have just illustrated we have always sold players and brought players in. Like you say all clubs buy and sell. But some people seem to think we only sell because of SISU as owners - and that isn't true. All football clubs sell.
So we have never replaced players when they have been sold. We sold Chaplin and signed godden that ended well didn't it?The issue is where that money goes, for us a couple of handbags for Joy, for others into signing new players to strengthen
The issue is where that money goes, for us a couple of handbags for Joy, for others into signing new players to strengthen
Before or after the window shuts ?I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeks
Stadium related?I would not be surprised if there was some kind of communication from SISU / Seppala in the coming weeks
Stadium related?
i loved Dennis Mortimer but to suggest he was better than Tommy Hutchison in 75 is very much debatable.Who remembers Dennis Mortimer going to Villa? Far and away our best player of the time.
Even better if she put in on EBay!It would be funny if she put her handbag collection on display
Well he's not the finest exemplar of how to run a club - he was an utter disaster.Jimmy Hill must have liked handbags too then.
Good to see us pushing for this.One might be but not confirmed yet , so might end up loan only
honestly what planet do you live on?The issue is where that money goes, for us a couple of handbags for Joy, for others into signing new players to strengthen
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