Nick
Administrator
I can't figure out if you are on a wind up now or not?
Better you just leave it and remove the posts quietly that give it away. I can see he’ll get some kickback but you know and I know I’m right.
Yes ok. Millions of people have that exact constant typing mistake and have stopped posting since august.
Tell me your obviously proof.
Besides the “age thing”
Better you just leave it and remove the posts quietly that give it away. I can see he’ll get some kickback but you know and I know I’m right.
You stated “it isn’t him obviously”
I’m asking how is it obvious?
Go on……
Just a few bullet points
Wages costs 2021 financials 13.4m
The club lost cash flow for a period not permanently so any claim if there was one would be offset by the income when match played. Not only that they will have received some of the income anyway.
SO WE WILL GET THE SAME GATE RECEIPTS AT WALSALL?
REALLY?
Any purchaser of acl would have caveats against claims against wasps
WHY WOULD THEY? NOT FOLLOWING YOUR ABSOLUTION ON THIS ONE
How smart is it to alienate acl who ccfc and sisu appear to have built relationships
ACL AT THAT POINT (IE FOLLOWING YOUR POINT THAT ACL IS SOLD) IT WILL NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME CONTROLLING MINDS (PEOPLE WHO CREATED THE RELATIONSHIP). IMO ACL HAVE CAUSED US MAJOR PROBLEMS SO IF THE CCFC/ ACL RELATIONSHIP CONTINUES IT’S ACL WHO NEED TO BRING THE FLOWERS, NO?
No one has quantified these so called urgent dilapidation so why is it 20m. Any pur have price would reflect that in any case. If the ground was in such bad condition why are all areas still open and a safety certificate in place.
THE POINT IS THAT THE FIGURE REQUIRED / POTENTIAL LIABILITY GOES UP. THE OVERARCHING POINT BEING IT A TACTICAL PLAY. INVESTORS DON’T LIKE POTENTIAL EXTRA LIABILITIES.
Any claims would reduce what any purchaser of acl would pay not add to it
ADDS TO POTENTIAL COST RISK, NO?
No liquidation fees if sold as a going concern. No administration fees unless go into administration
OBVIOUSLY, YOUR POINT?
Administration or liquidation fixes debts and claims
THAT’S A SIMPLE STATEMENT - DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK LIKE THAT
Most of the acl Income does not come from sport
NOT DIRECTLY BUT IT’D BE STUPID TO CATEGORISE IT AS JUST SPORTS FIELD RENT. THE SPORT CREATES FOOTFALL FOR A LOT OF THE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS
Could take months to sort out lease in liquidation and plenty of legals.
GREAT OBSERVATION
Etc etc
Sorry I just dont follow your analysis
THE POINT WAS ABOUT THE TIMING OF BROADCASTING EMBARGO SITUATION AND LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE ANGLES AS PER THE OPENING LINE OF THE OP, NOT IN DEPTH ANALYSIS. WHAT CARDS COULD SISU THROW INTO THE BLENDER TO HAVE IMPACT ON THE SALE. WHERE HAS THIS MYSTICAL £20m DILAPIDATIONS FIGURE COME FROM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT? WHAT’S THE CHESS MIVE ?
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It’s good to have debate and other insights and usually your analysis is good. I say that having read your posts over the years.
I think that you, like I trained as a Chartered Accountant before going into other real world business (in my case industry, then involved with commercial law, with M&A MBB etc etc).
Now I’m not as old as you, granted, but in this instance are coming across as pompous.
Take that in.
Do you think Hyam is sat in Blackburn still reading threads on here?
Just going to out a few other posters who are former players / staff on here...
Grendel is Craig Bellamy
Ccfc Sparks was Martyn Waghorn
Frostie is Chris Badlan
Nick is Richard Shaw
Mo Konjic actually.
I post in capitals to differentiate between question and answer, not shout.Pompousmight come across as that on the odd occasion but I try very hard not to be. I also am happy to back up my points with provable facts and generally indicate when it's opinion or conjecture. Also happy to accept I can or might be wrong
I provided some very brief facts as to why I don't agree or follow. I still don't agree or follow. On reflection I wish I hadn't bothered and adopted Grendels approach, without any comment though
I don't care about your qualifications, or CV really makes no difference. There are lots of posters on here that raised very valid financial points that i had not considered without being chartered accountants.
Posting your reply in capitals is equivalent to shouting on the Internet. It isnt a discussion. Comments about my ability, age or other snide comments don't work. I just won't reply in future. I dont care enough to be bothered.
He knew much more than players would, for starters.
NO, EXACTLY WHAT A TEAM MEMBER WOULD
He stopped posting around the same time people like you were trying to be detectives.
COINCIDENTALLY THE SAME TIME HE STOPPED GETTING CCFC INFO (MOVED AWAY) (BUT COULD STILL NOW GET SNIPPETS FROM PALS IF HE WANTED TO TRY TO DISPROVE- IT WON’T WORK)
Do you think Hyam is sat in Blackburn still reading threads on here
YES. WHY NOT?
You keep saying that with zero credible backing up to prove me wrong. You should have left it like I suggested.
Still waiting for your facts……
Yes ok. Millions of people have that exact constant typing mistake and have stopped posting since august.
Tell me your obviously proof.
Besides the “age thing”
Just a few bullet points
Wages costs 2021 financials 13.4m
The club lost cash flow for a period not permanently so any claim if there was one would be offset by the income when match played. Not only that they will have received some of the income anyway.
SO WE WILL GET THE SAME GATE RECEIPTS AT WALSALL?
REALLY?
Any purchaser of acl would have caveats against claims against wasps
WHY WOULD THEY? NOT FOLLOWING YOUR ABSOLUTION ON THIS ONE
How smart is it to alienate acl who ccfc and sisu appear to have built relationships
ACL AT THAT POINT (IE FOLLOWING YOUR POINT THAT ACL IS SOLD) IT WILL NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME CONTROLLING MINDS (PEOPLE WHO CREATED THE RELATIONSHIP). IMO ACL HAVE CAUSED US MAJOR PROBLEMS SO IF THE CCFC/ ACL RELATIONSHIP CONTINUES IT’S ACL WHO NEED TO BRING THE FLOWERS, NO?
No one has quantified these so called urgent dilapidation so why is it 20m. Any pur have price would reflect that in any case. If the ground was in such bad condition why are all areas still open and a safety certificate in place.
THE POINT IS THAT THE FIGURE REQUIRED / POTENTIAL LIABILITY GOES UP. THE OVERARCHING POINT BEING IT A TACTICAL PLAY. INVESTORS DON’T LIKE POTENTIAL EXTRA LIABILITIES.
Any claims would reduce what any purchaser of acl would pay not add to it
ADDS TO POTENTIAL COST RISK, NO?
No liquidation fees if sold as a going concern. No administration fees unless go into administration
OBVIOUSLY, YOUR POINT?
Administration or liquidation fixes debts and claims
THAT’S A SIMPLE STATEMENT - DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK LIKE THAT
Most of the acl Income does not come from sport
NOT DIRECTLY BUT IT’D BE STUPID TO CATEGORISE IT AS JUST SPORTS FIELD RENT. THE SPORT CREATES FOOTFALL FOR A LOT OF THE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS
Could take months to sort out lease in liquidation and plenty of legals.
GREAT OBSERVATION
Etc etc
Sorry I just dont follow your analysis
THE POINT WAS ABOUT THE TIMING OF BROADCASTING EMBARGO SITUATION AND LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE ANGLES AS PER THE OPENING LINE OF THE OP, NOT IN DEPTH ANALYSIS. WHAT CARDS COULD SISU THROW INTO THE BLENDER TO HAVE IMPACT ON THE SALE. WHERE HAS THIS MYSTICAL £20m DILAPIDATIONS FIGURE COME FROM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT? WHAT’S THE CHESS MIVE ?
————-
It’s good to have debate and other insights and usually your analysis is good. I say that having read your posts over the years.
I think that you, like I trained as a Chartered Accountant before going into other real world business (in my case industry, then involved with commercial law, with M&A MBB etc etc).
Now I’m not as old as you, granted, but in this instance are coming across as pompous.
Take that in.
WHO??Just putting it out there that I'm Andy Ducros
How about the embargo on naming who SBB is?This has gone way off thread topic .
can we all get back to talking about the embargo ?
it doesn’t matter who SBB is/was .
it’s just not that important .
There were clues in my previous post….How about the embargo on naming who SBB is?
People do wierder stuffAre you suggesting that Hyam waited 3 years after joining the club to sign up to SBT, make up a fake age and give inside knowledge on not just transfers but SISU?
I highlighted a tweet by someone doing the same thing….and who would be a more obvious candidate than Hyam ffsPeople do wierder stuffI'm not saying it absolutely is I was just saying anyone can put any age in on here... I have never seen anyone do that comma thing before but could be a bizarre coincidence.
I highlighted a tweet by someone doing the same thing….and who would be a more obvious candidate than Hyam ffs
I just saw that... is Overson Hyam's dad or did they have the same teacher...I highlighted a tweet by someone doing the same thing….and who would be a more obvious candidate than Hyam ffs
I saw that - huge coincidences all round but stuck to original thoughts due to the historic injury / team news / player pay knowledge.I just saw that... is Overson Hyam's dad or did they have the same teacher...
Are you ok mate? This is all a bit weird.I saw that - huge coincidences all round but stuck to original thoughts due to the historic injury / team news / player pay knowledge.
I know Overson had kindly put in some facility but unless he’s there day to day not sure he would so quickly have known about each COVID test and who was not travelling etc.
Anyway, the stream has dried up so back to total guesswork
Cardiff's embargo is for failing to pay the first instalment for Emiliano Sala. (£5.1M)
If they have to pay the whole £15m, that will finish the club I imagine.
Cardiff's embargo is for failing to pay the first instalment for Emiliano Sala. (£5.1M)
If they have to pay the whole £15m, that will finish the club I imagine.
Was that enforced still?
Thought they’d already exhausted all the appeals available. And really I don’t see how they wriggle out of itFIFA have demanded payment - Cardiff have appealed which they believe will lift the embargo
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