imho there is absolutely no excuse to not hit top 7 next season , none whatsoever
I agree , but my point stands for next seasonimho, there is no excuse to be bottom of league one, none whatsoever
Nobody is looking for an excuse. But most are looking for someone to blame.imho, there is no excuse to be bottom of league one, none whatsoever
What budget did we have ?Nobody is looking for an excuse. But most are looking for someone to blame.
I don't blame finances this season. We didn't have the lowest budget. But we did have a few people who were at fault.
I know and I'm really sorryNobody is looking for an excuse. But most are looking for someone to blame.
I don't blame finances this season. We didn't have the lowest budget. But we did have a few people who were at fault.
Only 4 clubs paid more than us in agents fees. Obviously doesn't tell you the budget but you would think there would be some correlation.What budget did we have ?
Or we paid a lot to bring in a single player that was going to solve all our problems like Yakubu.....Only 4 clubs paid more than us in agents fees. Obviously doesn't tell you the budget but you would think there would be some correlation.
Certainly not bottom. And that is where we are.What budget did we have ?
Look at those rules, no wonder the game is fucked.There were four sets of Financial Fair Play rules in place.(from 2016/17, the Championship and Premier League merged)
The 2015/2016 rules were as follows:
- UEFA competitons (for all clubs wishing to take part in the Champions League and Europa League)
- The Premier League (from 2013/14)
- The Championship (with punishments from 2013/14)
- Leagues 1 and 2
Not only that, but we bought him in when relegation was already a near certainty.Or we paid a lot to bring in a single player that was going to solve all our problems like Yakubu.....
He got a lot of our players to sell first it's all lies like the new stadium
Realistically what do you do to fill those seats? Look at this weekend, just won the cup, legends day, glorious sunshine and a tenner to get in and barely any increase in attendance.
So the other 16 pay their club for doing their job?What Fisher means is that his salary better be in the top 8.
1. I don't think they sell players at car boot sales.
To the general public, even fans who don't really bother these days, the season was already over. Sucess is the only thing that will fill those seats Chief, IMHO. We won't get thousands flooding back if SISU went, people will only come and watch if we're actually doing well. 43K+ at Wembley, to see us actually achieve something, is a bit different to non hard core fans who would get a nice day out with yesterdays heros .... but an unfortunately meaningless game in the grand scale of things. Its fickle I know, and upsetting to all of us, but that's the sad reality.Realistically what do you do to fill those seats? Look at this weekend, just won the cup, legends day, glorious sunshine and a tenner to get in and barely any increase in attendance.
So we pay 100k on rent and make 75k on F&B. So that's 25k. Still not looking like a top 1 budget from where I'm sitting! More fans yes but we won't make (like most teams) 100% of F&B, parking, conferences.
Since when did being a 'big spender' guarantee promotion/championship status anyway? Just look at Man City! Derby last season spent millions, QPR year on year throw money at a team the never gets promoted! How long have Sheff Utd been in League 1 and have had one of if not the biggest budget of the league. Finished below us last season with at least double the budget!
People put so much emphasis on the budget!
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Budget is the variable that has the biggest single impact. There's a reason the rich clubs are at the top of the pyramid and the poor ones are at the bottom. You set your operating parameters with the budget. You get rare cases where teams massively over or under perform by their budget, but that's as much as plan as buying a weekly lottery ticket is a plan for getting a job.
Our income will be ahead of other teams in the division, I don't give a fuck if we force people to bring their own sandwiches and park in town.
And match day costs....So we pay 100k on rent and make 75k on F&B. So that's 25k. Still not looking like a top 1 budget from where I'm sitting! More fans yes but we won't make (like most teams) 100% of F&B, parking, conferences.
Since when did being a 'big spender' guarantee promotion/championship status anyway? Just look at Man City! Derby last season spent millions, QPR year on year throw money at a team the never gets promoted! How long have Sheff Utd been in League 1 and have had one of if not the biggest budget of the league. Finished below us last season with at least double the budget!
People put so much emphasis on the budget!
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Like every other clubAnd match day costs....
Venus told the SCG £2.1Mtop 8 budget,what in league 2..should be top,not top 8...but what they actually mean is middle to lower budget..after they have sold what they can
What budget did we have ?
Except its not like very other club. Its not a fixed fee every club pays. Our 'matchday costs' (i.e.: everything we have to pay ACL for not covered by the rent) are huge compared to other clubs and any chance they get to turn the screw they take it.Like every other club
Except its not like very other club. Its not a fixed fee every club pays. Our 'matchday costs' (i.e.: everything we have to pay ACL for not covered by the rent) are huge compared to other clubs and any chance they get to turn the screw they take it.
One recent example is all that extra hassle you get going into the ground, the matchday costs have increased to pay ACL for that.
The matchday costs take the net figure to over £.5m to play at the Ricoh. How many other L1/L2 clubs are paying that out?
Have you got any figures to compare with, I had a look at Walsall and their accounts state £400K for gound & car park rent.
That rent includes training ground but wouldn't include paying for stuff like floodlights and groundsmen. So it is looking reasonably comparable.
One issue that Fisher complains about particularly is that hiring boxes for matchday entertainment is expensive but at the end of the day the business got themselves into that state by bad management. The club needs new management this shower will not revive the club.
what is the use of a top 8 budget,let say we finish 8th,where does that get us,nowhere just outside playoff's with nothing to show.
Walsall are allowed to retain all revenues from the stadium which easily exceeds that - hardly the best example of a great ownership model either.
If we sold 7/8K season tickets then we would have a bigger budget. Chicken, egg, etc.
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