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Tony Mowbray and how we got lucky! (1 Viewer)

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robbiekeane

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #36
skyblue93 said:
We should've been promoted that season and he massively bottled it. A front four of Prem/Champ level players and he shoehorned Marc-Antoine Fortune, Darius Henderson and Marcus Tudgay into it.
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Oh mate you’re making me shudder! Why did he keep persisting with MAF? Absolute toss.
Was it Henderson who fluffed that one on one to just put the icing on the cake?
 

Joy Division

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #37
If he started the season how it ended we would have been sacked by Christmas. Yes he played good football at the start but I just don't understand celebrating half a job done.
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #38
robbiekeane said:
Oh mate you’re making me shudder! Why did he keep persisting with MAF? Absolute toss.
Was it Henderson who fluffed that one on one to just put the icing on the cake?
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Yep. Think it was on TV against Posh which made it worse.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #39
Evo1883 said:
He's got a 45 % win ratio at Blackburn that includes a full championship season too.

They've had an indifferent start to the season no doubt but the championship is a big money division now and is getting harder.

I liked mowbray, enjoyed watching his brand of football and finished 8th in his only full season here...

Let's also remember they are in a division with teams that regularly get 24/25000 gates with big revenue, besides the odd one or two teams that are ran extremely well what do Blackburn fans expect?
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His rate of wins in the championship is 35% he’s just a typical boom and slump manager
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #40
chiefdave said:
Mowbray even predicted it himself in one of his interviews on CWR. Made some joke about how his teams always collapse in the second half of the season.

The team he had we should have been up that year, huge missed opportunity.
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he said something in one interview, (may have been the same one) along the lines of come the winter months the team wouldn't be able to continue to play free flowing football as the pitches got heavier and a long season took it's toll.
Amazingly though, having seen what was coming, and with 2 to 3 months to prepare, he didn't have a plan to counteract what he had predicted.
I like the man but he really screwed up the second half of that season.
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #41
Grendel said:
His rate of wins in the championship is 35% he’s just a typical boom and slump manager
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Yeah. The come in with exciting soundbites about how they'll bring success back to the club, go on a decent patch before the inevitable slump and sacking.

Bob Mortimer calls it destroy and exit.

 
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ccfcway

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #42
To stay at a championship club for 2 years is good going these days
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #43
ccfcway said:
To stay at a championship club for 3 years is good going these days
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Given that they've only been in the Championship for 18 months of that period it is
 
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ccfc92

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #44
Skybluesince82 said:
See comment above ref. Waggott. One thing Robins said when he came back was about no scouting structure. Who do people think were unearthing gems like Denzel Slager - the manager? I am sure it was Waggott driving player recruitment
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I thought it was Mowbray who said that ref Pressley's administration?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #45
The 8th place finish also was a against a backdrop of having been out of the race for months

Our record I think after a big win was dire and we slumped to 14th - we recovered ground when we ended up winning a few games in the final month

The fact we did win those games shows that the squad was capable through the post January months. He seemed to just have no ideas during most of Jan, Feb and March and just gave up

The owners have never been sharp in spotting trends - he should have been sacked in feb of that season when he was going into some kind of trance and doing nothing
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #46
Grendel said:
The 8th place finish also was a against a backdrop of having been out of the race for months

Our record I think after a big win was dire and we slumped to 14th - we recovered ground when we ended up winning a few games in the final month

The fact we did win those games shows that the squad was capable through the post January months. He seemed to just have no ideas during most of Jan, Feb and March and just gave up

The owners have never been sharp in spotting trends - he should have been sacked in feb of that season when he was going into some kind of trance and doing nothing
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That was probably the most frustrating thing about it. To have started so well, then fall so far off the pace was bad enough. To then find a bit of that form again at the end of the season, when it was too late, was really infuriating.

Even by our own usual start well, collapse by Christmas standards, that season was such a bottlejob.
 

Gibbo

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #47
fernandopartridge said:
Armstrong has peaked
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Armstrong peaked while at City. One trick pony - the lob over the goalie
 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #48
If Melton ever leaves football he could carve himself out a great career playing a generic Slavic type bad guy in Liam Neeson action films.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 5, 2019
  • #49
fellatio_Martinez said:
If Melton ever leaves football he could carve himself out a great career playing a generic Slavic type bad guy in Liam Neeson action films.
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Superb
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Sep 6, 2019
  • #50
fellatio_Martinez said:
If Melton ever leaves football he could carve himself out a great career playing a generic Slavic type bad guy in Liam Neeson action films.
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Could be Neeson's stunt double, and would be particularly convincing in scenes that involved sliding down tables.

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vow

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  • Sep 6, 2019
  • #51
itsabuzzard said:
Could be Neeson's stunt double, and would be particularly convincing in scenes that involved sliding down tables.
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Oooooooh, warra bitch....
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #52
Since this post they are 2 points off the playoffs.
6th in the form table
Picked up somewhat

Very nice bloke is mogga, we had several key injuries at the back that season, nobody seems to talk about this as a reason for things going badly, always talk about January.
Usual suspects though, ones who were very vocal in the taxi for Robins thread type lol
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
Since this post they are 2 points off the playoffs.
6th in the form table
Picked up somewhat

Very nice bloke is mogga, we had several key injuries at the back that season, nobody seems to talk about this as a reason for things going badly, always talk about January.
Usual suspects though, ones who were very vocal in the taxi for Robins thread type lol
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It was his summer recruitment that buggered us up when he was here.

It was a disaster.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #54
Otis said:
It was his summer recruitment that buggered us up when he was here.

It was a disaster.
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The second season yea, not the first.
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #55
Grendel said:
The 8th place finish also was a against a backdrop of having been out of the race for months

Our record I think after a big win was dire and we slumped to 14th - we recovered ground when we ended up winning a few games in the final month

The fact we did win those games shows that the squad was capable through the post January months. He seemed to just have no ideas during most of Jan, Feb and March and just gave up

The owners have never been sharp in spotting trends - he should have been sacked in feb of that season when he was going into some kind of trance and doing nothing
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But you wanted the owners to follow the same trends and sack Robins.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #56
Well done mogga.

Covcity4life right again...and again...and again

Now the goalposts will change. Promotion from championship is easy jist like leagie 1. Bare minimum for mowbray is prem now lool
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #57
covcity4life said:
Well done mogga.

Covcity4life right again...and again...and again

Now the goalposts will change. Promotion from championship is easy jist like leagie 1. Bare minimum for mowbray is prem now lool
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Mowbray was dreadful here, the appalling job he did in 2016 relegated us to the fourth tier. Blackburn had a good enough squad to stay up in the Championship yet he failed to do that. I'd hardly give him credit for what's happened since.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #58
Coming from you thats further proof. You have shown your lack of knowledge about football outside ccfc many times
 
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covcity4life

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #59
Two years ago mowbray and robins both got their teams promoted

I would take that again this year!
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #60
skybluebeduff said:
With him walking away...

Nearly three years have passed since Tony Mowbray thankfully walked away from our club.
We've had a roller coaster ride in that time, his 10 game winless run that lasted until late September was our lowest ebb, then along came Slade to punish us some more as a fanbase.

What we seen with Mowbray was pathetic transfer windows, confusing team selections, no plan B, but he was good at talking, his only selling point.

Fast forward until today and it seems Tony hasn't learned anything from his time at CCFC, nor has Waggott or Venus, these people really are the doom and gloom of management. To employ these people you shouldn't have any expectations above bottom half.

Unfortunately the Blackburn fans are finding out exactly how crap these people operate, I feel sorry for them.

Mowbray In? Mowbray Out?
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Load of bollocks. He gave us a season of hope snd some of the best football weve seen at the ricoh.
Why start a thread knocking a manager and team. Your like the telegraph
 
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cloughie

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #61
Skybluesince82 said:
I think Waggott had more of an influence in transfers than people think and had a habit of playing ‘football manager’. Lots on here called him a Football Man (whatever that means), but actually his background was as a teacher and in further education. Think he got a little carried away with his role and involvement in professional football.

Pressley and Mowbray probably went along with it as he was the CEO, so accountable to him and there were no owners in sight to challenge that status quo.

Fast forward to Blackburn and it’s a similar set up, absent owners, same two people who are probably reliant on each other to stay in the job. Waggot will be far more involved in the football side than most CEOs I have no doubt, whilst Mowbray is pretty much a yes man.
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Spot on waggot was never a football man some how got lucky in getting better salaries at football clubs with bullshit. Appointed by the king of bullshit if I remember correctly
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #62
Mowbray was a good manager. Gambled on targets that wouldn’t come to us and it didn’t pay off.

Doesn’t deserve the slating 2bh
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #63
covcity4life said:
Coming from you thats further proof. You have shown your lack of knowledge about football outside ccfc many times
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Yeah yeah you sky sports simpleton
 
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Adge

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #64
Evo1883 said:
Since this post they are 2 points off the playoffs.
6th in the form table
Picked up somewhat

Very nice bloke is mogga, we had several key injuries at the back that season, nobody seems to talk about this as a reason for things going badly, always talk about January.
Usual suspects though, ones who were very vocal in the taxi for Robins thread type lol
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Yep, that’s a fair shout. Remember we had Ben Turner who scored aswell for us at the back and then broke down and we replaced him with Cargill and the same happened. Think if one or both of them had remained fit we may have just got over the line into the playoffs.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #65
Adge said:
Yep, that’s a fair shout. Remember we had Ben Turner who scored aswell for us at the back and then broke down and we replaced him with Cargill and the same happened. Think if one or both of them had remained fit we may have just got over the line into the playoffs.
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Perhaps, though Maddison and Murphy went well off the boil and Mowbray had no ideas left. Really was criminal we didn't even make the playoffs that year
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #66
Some of the youngsters tired it’s a long season if it’s your first in pro football
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #67
cloughie said:
Spot on waggot was never a football man some how got lucky in getting better salaries at football clubs with bullshit. Appointed by the king of bullshit if I remember correctly
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The first season with Mowbray we were near the top and imploded as soon as he left
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #68
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Some of the youngsters tired it’s a long season if it’s your first in pro football
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Didn’t we win 4 of the last 5 or 6 matches?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Sep 21, 2019
  • #69
It was mainly Armstrong & Murphy's goals that got us to the top. Both lost their form dramatically. And there was the long drawn out distraction of whether or not we would be allowed to keep Armstrong for the second half of the season. We relied too heavily on loan players Armstrong, Murphy, Kent etc. to have had a real chance of promotion that season
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 22, 2019
  • #70
Skybluesince82 said:
See comment above ref. Waggott. One thing Robins said when he came back was about no scouting structure. Who do people think were unearthing gems like Denzel Slager - the manager? I am sure it was Waggott driving player recruitment
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To think someone experienced like Mowbray would take a lead on recruitment from Waggot is ridiculous.

So Steve...what's your history like? Education eh? Ok, go get em tiger...

I doubt it very much to be honest.

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