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Now being an investigative journalist there would be a point. It is in the public interest to know which prominent people were involved and if the President had sex with “vulnerable” young girls as a guest of Epstein. Prince Andrew and Clinton are on the radar and I remember something about a 13 year old accusing Trump of having sex with her. That vanished quickly and was not heard of again..but may reappear now that the Feds habe the contents of Epstein ‘s safe. Off you go Tommy, get the paedos..... The prosecutors are asking for more people to come forward with information.
Here's the truth.


Infact what happened on Epstein Island is the same thing as I posted on another thread about Gloria Vanderbilt.

QMAP: [119] Jeffrey Epstein

Here's Epstein's black book with list of people who flew on Epstein's plane to Epstein Island.

Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book

Expect the name Rachel to pop up in the news down the line.

QMAP: [72] Rachel Chandler

QMAP: [#3155] Dig: RACHEL CHANDLER IS KEY
 

dancers lance

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Because exposing the cold molesters in the way he did at the time he did might have led to the case against them collapsing, it isn't difficult to comprehend
Purely from a legal perspective (forget that this is TR for a minute) all the names of the accused in this case had already been reported and were openly available.

Some of the accused in this case were allowed to return to work (in the Kebab shop) where, it was alleged, many of the offences against the children took place, and was common knowledge in the community. The BBC colluded with the MET Police and waited outside Cliff Richards house so they could live report his arrest, they had been fed bullshit (proven).

The men in the TR case had huge amounts of evidence stacked against them including, witness testimony, D.N.A, phone records, social media records and even some confessions, why did they deserve anonymity, was it the same fear that allowed hundreds of children to be raped because the rape of children is bad, but a small price to pay against being called a racist (also admitted by the police and care workers).

So, reporting live, the arrest of, what is now proven to be an innocent man, Cliff Richard, would have had no influence on his trial? give me a fucking break, I'm afraid we are now at the point where the pressure to submit to bullshit cultural sensitivities are influencing, not just our police force, but our judicial system.
 

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Purely from a legal perspective (forget that this is TR for a minute) all the names of the accused in this case had already been reported and were openly available.

Some of the accused in this case were allowed to return to work (in the Kebab shop) where, it was alleged, many of the offences against the children took place, and was common knowledge in the community. The BBC colluded with the MET Police and waited outside Cliff Richards house so they could live report his arrest, they had been fed bullshit (proven).

The men in the TR case had huge amounts of evidence stacked against them including, witness testimony, D.N.A, phone records, social media records and even some confessions, why did they deserve anonymity, was it the same fear that allowed hundreds of children to be raped because the rape of children is bad, but a small price to pay against being called a racist (also admitted by the police and care workers).

So, reporting live, the arrest of, what is now proven to be an innocent man, Cliff Richard, would have had no influence on his trial? give me a fucking break, I'm afraid we are now at the point where the pressure to submit to bullshit cultural sensitivities are influencing, not just our police force, but our judicial system.
It is nothing to do with cultural sensitivities, like you've said the defendants had previously been reported, you've contradicted your own theory. The reason for the ban is the way the trials were arranged, have a look at the Independent story i linked earlier.
 

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Here's the truth.


Infact what happened on Epstein Island is the same thing as I posted on another thread about Gloria Vanderbilt.

QMAP: [119] Jeffrey Epstein

Here's Epstein's black book with list of people who flew on Epstein's plane to Epstein Island.

Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book

Expect the name Rachel to pop up in the news down the line.

QMAP: [72] Rachel Chandler

QMAP: [#3155] Dig: RACHEL CHANDLER IS KEY
I'm not sure what you're trying to say but Epstein and Trump are thick as thieves and he pretty much got away with the first lot of sex offences thanks to Trumps crony Alex Acosta.
 

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Purely from a legal perspective (forget that this is TR for a minute) all the names of the accused in this case had already been reported and were openly available.

Some of the accused in this case were allowed to return to work (in the Kebab shop) where, it was alleged, many of the offences against the children took place, and was common knowledge in the community. The BBC colluded with the MET Police and waited outside Cliff Richards house so they could live report his arrest, they had been fed bullshit (proven).

The men in the TR case had huge amounts of evidence stacked against them including, witness testimony, D.N.A, phone records, social media records and even some confessions, why did they deserve anonymity, was it the same fear that allowed hundreds of children to be raped because the rape of children is bad, but a small price to pay against being called a racist (also admitted by the police and care workers).

So, reporting live, the arrest of, what is now proven to be an innocent man, Cliff Richard, would have had no influence on his trial? give me a fucking break, I'm afraid we are now at the point where the pressure to submit to bullshit cultural sensitivities are influencing, not just our police force, but our judicial system.
What happened to Cliff Richard and others is awful but not for one second does it excuse what Tommy Robinson did.

Purely from a legal perspective the point in law is very simple. There was a media blackout to protect the integrity of the trials to ensure that the perpetrators got their punishment and the victims got some justice. That narcissistic, attention seeking, poisoned little man’s deliberate actions risked the perpetrators getting of Scot free and the victims being robbed of their justice. There really isn’t any excuses for him and no amount of whatifery can change that. He’ll do very well out of his narcissistic attention seeking because people are either too blind or stupid to see what his actions could have done and why his actions can’t go unpunished.
 
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say but Epstein and Trump are thick as thieves and he pretty much got away with the first lot of sex offences thanks to Trumps crony Alex Acosta.
I was reading that Acosta has also slashed funding to the department that tackles sex trafficking yesterday.
 

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I have already seen some bloke (not sure if its UKIP leader or ex leader) saying that he is in a prison run by Muslims / ISIS extremists.

Get the donations in.

 
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I was reading that Acosta has also slashed funding to the department that tackles sex trafficking yesterday.
I didn't know that. In which case more bullshit from Trump with his comments saying we are in different times now and the authorities are more empowered to deal with these sort of crimes.

Amazing that some one who care so much about the victims of sexual abuse turned to a paedophile enabler for asylum
 
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Purely from a legal perspective (forget that this is TR for a minute) all the names of the accused in this case had already been reported and were openly available.

Some of the accused in this case were allowed to return to work (in the Kebab shop) where, it was alleged, many of the offences against the children took place, and was common knowledge in the community. The BBC colluded with the MET Police and waited outside Cliff Richards house so they could live report his arrest, they had been fed bullshit (proven).

The men in the TR case had huge amounts of evidence stacked against them including, witness testimony, D.N.A, phone records, social media records and even some confessions, why did they deserve anonymity, was it the same fear that allowed hundreds of children to be raped because the rape of children is bad, but a small price to pay against being called a racist (also admitted by the police and care workers).

So, reporting live, the arrest of, what is now proven to be an innocent man, Cliff Richard, would have had no influence on his trial? give me a fucking break, I'm afraid we are now at the point where the pressure to submit to bullshit cultural sensitivities are influencing, not just our police force, but our judicial system.
It wasn’t their anonymity to protect them it was to ensure they couldn’t claim miscarriage of justice. He put all that at risk by being in contempt of court. How would he have defended it if they had got off on a technicality ??? Stupidity is not a defence.
 
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It wasn’t their anonymity to protect them it was to ensure they couldn’t claim miscarriage of justice. He put all that at risk by being in contempt of court. How would he have defended it if they had got off on a technicality ??? Stupidity is not a defence.
That’s not forgetting that they actually didn’t have anonymity in the first place. As the OP acknowledges as did Tommy Robinson in court himself their names were already reported in the public domain through reporting previous to the media blackout while the trials were ongoing. Tommy Robinson in fact singled out the BBC as an example of it (despite claiming on a regular basis that the BBC is a traitor that doesn’t report stories like this) in court as part of his defence.

The media block out is such a basic and simple point in law that it’s to stop first trial being perceived as prejudicing the second trial and then the first and second trials not prejudicing the third. It’s no more complicated than that. It’s to unsure that justice is served and anyone interfering in that process to the detriment of justice wether they be Tommy Robinson or a BBC reporter needs the book throwing at them to make sure victims past, current and future get the justice that they deserve.

He’s a wholly selfish individual who couldn’t care about the victims anymore than the perpetrators. Here’s another point to consider. I believe that the victims now qualify for compensation because of the convictions. Tommy Robinson could have cost them not only justice but also financial compensation as the victims of a crime had the perpetrators walked free because of Tommy’s actions.
 

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It wasn’t their anonymity to protect them it was to ensure they couldn’t claim miscarriage of justice. He put all that at risk by being in contempt of court. How would he have defended it if they had got off on a technicality ??? Stupidity is not a defence.
Yeah, it was more to try and ensure justice rather than 'protect' the perpetrators. As you've said the evidence made it pretty much open and shut and their only hope was a mistrial or procedural mistake. SYL's actions gave them a potential loophole out, and had their names not been in the public domain what we may very well be talking about now is how SYL got a load of Muslim paedophiles off a prison sentence. How would his supporters feel about that?
 

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Here's the truth.


Infact what happened on Epstein Island is the same thing as I posted on another thread about Gloria Vanderbilt.

QMAP: [119] Jeffrey Epstein

Here's Epstein's black book with list of people who flew on Epstein's plane to Epstein Island.

Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book

Expect the name Rachel to pop up in the news down the line.

QMAP: [72] Rachel Chandler

QMAP: [#3155] Dig: RACHEL CHANDLER IS KEY

It's obviously not the whole truth though. The parties where Trump supposedly was, were in NY where Epstein had a mansion. What happened to the then 13 year old who accused Trump? Genuine question as it went very quiet very quickly..pay off?. Trump praised Epstein for his great social life and his admiration of beautiful women on the younger side. Exact words were "great guy". So nothing to worry about then? Accosta is his labor secretary. The one who gave Epstein a let off. All honky dory.
 
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Yeah, it was more to try and ensure justice rather than 'protect' the perpetrators. As you've said the evidence made it pretty much open and shut and their only hope was a mistrial or procedural mistake. SYL's actions gave them a potential loophole out, and had their names not been in the public domain what we may very well be talking about now is how SYL got a load of Muslim paedophiles off a prison sentence. How would his supporters feel about that?
Basically it is not about the victims, as there are plenty of victims of, say, catholic priests, wealthy businessmen and politicians. But, what is different here is that they are brown skinned and Muslims. Why doesn't Tommy Robinson SYL protest against victims of white groomers, and only ones with darker skins? No money in it?
 

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Here's the truth.


Infact what happened on Epstein Island is the same thing as I posted on another thread about Gloria Vanderbilt.

QMAP: [119] Jeffrey Epstein

Here's Epstein's black book with list of people who flew on Epstein's plane to Epstein Island.

Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book

Expect the name Rachel to pop up in the news down the line.

QMAP: [72] Rachel Chandler

QMAP: [#3155] Dig: RACHEL CHANDLER IS KEY
Dude. Wipe the Cheeto dust from your mouth would you? He’s on tape repeatedly saying he’s a friend.

Hahahahaha you’re a fucking QANON person. Jesus all credibility lost.
 

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Dude. Wipe the Cheeto dust from your mouth would you? He’s on tape repeatedly saying he’s a friend.

Hahahahaha you’re a fucking QANON person. Jesus all credibility lost.
Aren't they Wotsits? At least keep the insults relevant and not too american!
 

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Dude. Wipe the Cheeto dust from your mouth would you? He’s on tape repeatedly saying he’s a friend.

Hahahahaha you’re a fucking QANON person. Jesus all credibility lost.
Isn't QANON a spoof? Think it's a set up by some of the people involved with Anonymous.
 
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It was a wind up originally, there’s lots of evidence of that. Then because literally anyone can post claiming to be part of it it’s gone off in all kinds of directions, see this:

Good God.


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That’s not forgetting that they actually didn’t have anonymity in the first place. As the OP acknowledges as did Tommy Robinson in court himself their names were already reported in the public domain through reporting previous to the media blackout while the trials were ongoing. Tommy Robinson in fact singled out the BBC as an example of it (despite claiming on a regular basis that the BBC is a traitor that doesn’t report stories like this) in court as part of his defence.

The media block out is such a basic and simple point in law that it’s to stop first trial being perceived as prejudicing the second trial and then the first and second trials not prejudicing the third. It’s no more complicated than that. It’s to unsure that justice is served and anyone interfering in that process to the detriment of justice wether they be Tommy Robinson or a BBC reporter needs the book throwing at them to make sure victims past, current and future get the justice that they deserve.

He’s a wholly selfish individual who couldn’t care about the victims anymore than the perpetrators. Here’s another point to consider. I believe that the victims now qualify for compensation because of the convictions. Tommy Robinson could have cost them not only justice but also financial compensation as the victims of a crime had the perpetrators walked free because of Tommy’s actions.
I 100% agree with everything you said.