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fatso

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #36
skybluegod said:
Tbh Chelsea's business model is kind of genius over the last couple years. The amount of money they have made from signing young players loaning them out until they are a decent standard and then selling them is ridiculous.

It's stupid it's allowed to happen on that scale but fair play to them. Their net spend comparative to rivals is relatively low the last 2/3 seasons. (Appreciate the Hazard sale obviously helped with last summer's splurge)
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All those players available to them and yet they spend nearly 100 million on Lukaku.
The money distribution in football is just rediculous. So many lower league clubs (and championship clubs) close to going under.
I feel something needs to be done to level the playing field (no pun intended)
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #37
fatso said:
All those players available to them and yet they spend nearly 100 million on Lukaku.
The money distribution in football is just rediculous. So many lower league clubs (and championship clubs) close to going under.
I feel something needs to be done to level the playing field (no pun intended)
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Agreed, I think they are in profit this window aren't they even though that have spent 100m on Lukaku? Think they have made 130 million in sales!
 

Seb

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #38

Usually means this is true right if its been tweeted by Pete?
 

larry_david

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #39
Haven't they just got Kenedy to sign a contract extension before loaning him out. On first looks it's bizarre, it's not like Kenedy is 19 up and coming, think he's 27! Why not just sell him?
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #40
larry_david said:
Haven't they just got Kenedy to sign a contract extension before loaning him out. On first looks it's bizarre, it's not like Kenedy is 19 up and coming, think he's 27! Why not just sell him?
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I know Michy Batshuayi has just signed a new contract, before being loaned to Beskitas.
 

Gibbo

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #41
AFCCOVENTRY said:
No thank you. Don’t want this kind of idiot at the club.


QPR's Todd Kane has received a seven-game ban and must attend an education session for using abusive language "referencing nationality or ethnicity" towards Brentford's Sergi Canos.
Defender Kane, who has also been fined £6,000, admitted the charge following the Championship game in February.
The 27-year-old Englishman said it was in response to an insult which also referenced his nationality.
The Football Association accepted Spaniard Canos' denial of that claim.
A QPR statement said there was no justification for "insults pertaining to someone else's nationality" and that Kane will be disciplined internally.
The statement added that Kane had "shown remorse throughout" and that "both Todd and Rob Dickie, who witnessed the incident, have consistently testified that Todd's comment was in response to an opposition player using similar language about Todd's nationality".
Kane admitted he used abusive and insulting language contrary to FA rule E3.1, meaning an "aggravated breach" which rule E3.2 defines as language including a reference "whether express or implied, to nationality or ethnicity".
The QPR statement added: "Referring to anyone's nationality is not acceptable and the club and Todd apologise unreservedly to the player involved and to others for whom this incident has caused offence.
"Queens Park Rangers Football Club condemns all forms of discrimination and has been at the forefront of working to tackle this issue, in both our recruitment across all levels of the club and our action in the local community."
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We are employing a footballer, not a political leader. And nor should we be endlessly punished for past indiscressions. You are punished for the crime as approriate, not given a life sentence.

We don't need another right back right now, as we only have limited cash. But that is a footballing reason.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #42
skybluegod said:
Tbh Chelsea's business model is kind of genius over the last couple years. The amount of money they have made from signing young players loaning them out until they are a decent standard and then selling them is ridiculous.

It's stupid it's allowed to happen on that scale but fair play to them. Their net spend comparative to rivals is relatively low the last 2/3 seasons. (Appreciate the Hazard sale obviously helped with last summer's splurge)
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Allegedly Man City made £110m in selling & loaning young players - so buying Grealish keeps within FFP. Nothing wrong with it at all, just the market working quite well actually. Having a sugar daddy is the problem.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #43
Gibbo said:
Allegedly Man City made £110m in selling & loaning young players - so buying Grealish keeps within FFP. Nothing wrong with it at all, just the market working quite well actually. Having a sugar daddy is the problem.
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Depends really, was it around 20 yrs ago that things changed,
That there was a rule around regional reach going from around 30miles to 90+.
It was there to ensure distribution I assume rather than concentrate everything to the financially elite maybe.
 

skybluegod

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #44
Gibbo said:
Allegedly Man City made £110m in selling & loaning young players - so buying Grealish keeps within FFP. Nothing wrong with it at all, just the market working quite well actually. Having a sugar daddy is the problem.
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Thought man city had made 60 million? Pep said he cost the club 40 million net in the interview he gave.

Unless you are just talking about fitting with FFP, in which case yeah over the 3 years that would sound about right! It's very easy to get around FFP as Man city have shown.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #45
fatso said:
A bit like JCS then!
Makes you wonder just how many players Chelsea actually have on their books!
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I'm sure I saw somewhere in the last couple of years that they had something crazy like 91 players on their books with professional contracts (so above academy levels).

That's mental if so.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #46
He has played 100 Championship games in the last three years so he would be a first team contender ahead of the likes of Pask or Dacosta
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #47
Grendel said:
He has played 100 Championship games in the last three years so he would be a first team contender ahead of the likes of Pask or Dacosta
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Why is it whenever we are linked with players that have featured regularly at this level some fans are against signing them? We were crying out for championship experience last season. I find it odd
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #48
I think the reason we are in for him , is because da Costa was so far out of position we've actually lost him and need a replacement
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #49
Grendel said:
He has played 100 Championship games in the last three years so he would be a first team contender ahead of the likes of Pask or Dacosta
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Da Costa will be in the bomb squad then if this guy signs
 
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better days

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #50
Grendel said:
He has played 100 Championship games in the last three years so he would be a first team contender ahead of the likes of Pask or Dacosta
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It looks like Pask himself wants to go somewhere he will have a chance of playing regularly
And I think the management and players have given up on Da Costa
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #51
procdoc said:
Why is it whenever we are linked with players that have featured regularly at this level some fans are against signing them? We were crying out for championship experience last season. I find it odd
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He has actually featured in 150 Championship games and some on here are saying is he even an upgrade on Pask
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #52
procdoc said:
Why is it whenever we are linked with players that have featured regularly at this level some fans are against signing them? We were crying out for championship experience last season. I find it odd
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Not sure,
Might be moving away from our recent model doing some of it .
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #53
Grendel said:
He has actually featured in 150 Championship games and some on here are saying is he even an upgrade on Pask
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They’re going by some QPR fans comments on their forum. If you based every signing on fans opinion no one would sign anyone
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #54
better days said:
It looks like Pask himself wants to go somewhere he will have a chance of playing regularly
And I think the management and players have given up on Da Costa
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I think we may have to reconsider giving 3 year contracts to these players from abroad - thats Jobello, Hilssner, Kastaneer and now seems Da Costa who have been written off quickly or half way into their deal
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #55
better days said:
It looks like Pask himself wants to go somewhere he will have a chance of playing regularly
And I think the management and players have given up on Da Costa
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If that's the case how come Dacosta keeps on being picked in the matchday squad?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #56
procdoc said:
They’re going by some QPR fans comments on their forum. If you based every signing on fans opinion no one would sign anyone
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And whoever is lucky enough to get our former French number 9 will think they’ve got a Premier League forward
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #57
wingy said:
Not sure,
Might be moving away from our recent model doing some of it .
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The players signed under that last summer are still here and gaining value all the time, but clearly if Da Costa has been written off and we need someone else in that position then a more established player makes sense. That said I'd be a bit concerned about us falling in to paying higher wages for players with lower resale value.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #58
ceetee said:
There's no point in signing him unless he's significantly better than Pask.
Otherwise, why bother?
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Exactly this. Pask is more than adequate. Baffled why Pask didn't come on other day and not Da Costa even on Left hand side!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #59
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I think we may have to reconsider giving 3 year contracts to these players from abroad - thats Jobello, Hilssner, Kastaneer and now seems Da Costa who have been written off quickly or half way into their deal
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Did they all get 3?
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #60
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The players signed under that last summer are still here and gaining value all the time, but clearly if Da Costa has been written off and we need someone else in that position then a more established player makes sense. That said I'd be a bit concerned about us falling in to paying higher wages for players with lower resale value.
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Todd Kane is only 27, would still have sell on value
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #61
Londonccfcfan said:
Exactly this. Pask is more than adequate. Baffled why Pask didn't come on other day and not Da Costa even on Left hand side!
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He wasn’t on the bench
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #62
Sky Blue Pete said:
Did they all get 3?
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Yes

TRANSFER: Marcel Hilßner Joins Sky Blues!

Coventry City are delighted to announce the signing of German winger Marcel Hilßner!
www.ccfc.co.uk

TRANSFER: Julien Dacosta Signs For City!

Coventry City are delighted to announce the signing of defender Julien Dacosta!
www.ccfc.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #63
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes

TRANSFER: Marcel Hilßner Joins Sky Blues!

Coventry City are delighted to announce the signing of German winger Marcel Hilßner!
www.ccfc.co.uk

TRANSFER: Julien Dacosta Signs For City!

Coventry City are delighted to announce the signing of defender Julien Dacosta!
www.ccfc.co.uk
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Seems unnecessarily risky if it doesn’t work out
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #64
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He wasn’t on the bench
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Haha that explains it. Well he should be as Da Costa is a liability at the moment.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #65
procdoc said:
They’re going by some QPR fans comments on their forum. If you based every signing on fans opinion no one would sign anyone
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No wonder no ones has signed Biamou after what Grendels said
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #66
Londonccfcfan said:
Haha that explains it. Well he should be as Da Costa is a liability at the moment.
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Had he played for the U23's the day before, mind he would have handled five minutes.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #67
Sky Blue Pete said:
Seems unnecessarily risky if it doesn’t work out
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Yes but you do have to make it appealing and worthwhile for the player coming from abroad. Imo the players who should be on long term contracts should be important first team players and youngsters with exceptional potential
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #68
procdoc said:
Todd Kane is only 27, would still have sell on value
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Not really convinced by that but we do clearly need better than Da Costa at that position. Let's wait and see eh
 
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slowpoke

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  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #69
I think it is true Robins would like him Stoke are linked too but it shows we are in for experience now Waghorn, JCS and now Kane just wondering what Kane they are talking about I could think of one of them would fit like a glove up front with our Vik.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 20, 2021
  • #70
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yes but you do have to make it appealing and worthwhile for the player coming from abroad. Imo the players who should be on long term contracts should be important first team players and youngsters with exceptional potential
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I think youngsters with exceptional potential should be tied down to us for the rest of their careers
 
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