In all seriousness some people look to the football for an escape when other things aren't great. When that escape is also complete shit, it's not ideal.
Create a new culture then.
That or do nothing and sulk our way to relegation.
Dunno what people want really? Are you going to sack the owner?
When things are going this badly managers pay the price. Its football, its what happens.
Did we watch the same game?
And even then weren't that greatly threatened
I can't see anything other than us burning through manager after manager once Robins goes.
Vik windfall used to pay compo.
Vik windfall used to pay compo.
I think it’s time for back to basics. Stop pissing about up front. Front three of Wright, Simms and Saka - our 3 best forwards. Stop pissing about at the back. MVE Thomas Kitching Bidwell/jds. Rotate Torp and Rudoni. Tell Sheaf and Eccles to stay fit for a long season ahead for them.
All the supposed building blocks are in place ….. or so we are told , to get to the next level ……so another , more experienced or certainly tactically knowledgeable person , would jump at this opportunity, before we have Christmas/ new year here & be some way adrift of the pack ?
I think that's it in a nutshell. Absolutely no guarantee at all of any new manager turning it around and lasting any length of time here.
Do we really want to go back to constantly changing managers?
Stability is so important. King needs to back Robins though and change his thinking on terms of loans and experienced players.
Completely agree, it's what we should have been doing for a while.
Although maybe not Simms, he really doesn't deserve to keep his place.
It’s hard to see but then a bit of confidence would probably completely change performances.
Robins slaughtered simms and dovin, whilst he was right you can’t do that in the media, I think he knows he’s getting the boot
robins clearly has stuff going on and isn’t committed like he was, he probably fell out with viveash and it’s fallen apart
I think king will give the job to George
robins clearly has stuff going on and isn’t committed like he was, he probably fell out with viveash and it’s fallen apart
I think king will give the job to George
There are a few things which I think needs to change urgently.
Firstly DK needs to acknowledge that the coaching appointments have been dire , the recruitment team questionable. Any evidence that the defensive coach is doing a good job ? None whatsoever and utterly bewildering how we are set up to defend set pieces.
Team balance needs to be addressed. No doubt that the midfield set up is horribly wrong and recruitment is urgently needed in this area. Bidwell at left back is ok but JDS is way short of what is required.
There needs to be a settled starting 11 in my opinion and none of this predetermined substitution nonsense . There has been much talk from MR previously regarding players "gelling" .How the bloody hell can they gel if the team changes weekly ?
This is a test of DK and his true intentions .Money has to come from somewhere to solve the issues and tough decisions have to made. He will stand or fall by these decisions.
Nothing concrete to base this on and just a hunch but I would not be at all surprised to find out that Mr Ashley is watching this situation very closely.
Firstly DK needs to acknowledge that the coaching appointments have been dire , the recruitment team questionable. Any evidence that the defensive coach is doing a good job ? None whatsoever and utterly bewildering how we are set up to defend set pieces.
Team balance needs to be addressed. No doubt that the midfield set up is horribly wrong and recruitment is urgently needed in this area. Bidwell at left back is ok but JDS is way short of what is required.
There needs to be a settled starting 11 in my opinion and none of this predetermined substitution nonsense . There has been much talk from MR previously regarding players "gelling" .How the bloody hell can they gel if the team changes weekly ?
This is a test of DK and his true intentions .Money has to come from somewhere to solve the issues and tough decisions have to made. He will stand or fall by these decisions.
Nothing concrete to base this on and just a hunch but I would not be at all surprised to find out that Mr Ashley is watching this situation very closely.
I’m sure
I had the same thought regarding the DK silence, is this the longest we have been since he took over the club without hearing from him in some form ? I feel things are happening in the background, even if it’s just contingency plans if we find ourselves in the bottom 3 come the next international break
It might be Robins can’t work in this culture and Doug finds someone who can?
Any case. Loss to Luton at home and I think he’s gone anyway.
It’s a culture of mediocrity I’m sure plenty can work in it, I’m not sure any will succeed.
Yeah, I know. It is for me too. I've been supporting and going home and away for decades. But, some of the stuff written on here over the last few weeks, from presumably functioning adults, has been laughable.
I love robins and everything he’s done.
BUT i see nothing to give me hope currently - passive, flat, lifeless, limited team - it’s like watching a dying animal currently. We can go on about coaching , recruitment etc - huge issues and talked to death.
But we can’t just keep carrying on saying it will come good, my gut says it’s different to previous “slow” starts - we are bang in trouble this time. Is sacking him the answer, don’t know, but something has to change, sadly that’s pretty much only thing that can.
Last night was just so bad, made Preston game look good.
BUT i see nothing to give me hope currently - passive, flat, lifeless, limited team - it’s like watching a dying animal currently. We can go on about coaching , recruitment etc - huge issues and talked to death.
But we can’t just keep carrying on saying it will come good, my gut says it’s different to previous “slow” starts - we are bang in trouble this time. Is sacking him the answer, don’t know, but something has to change, sadly that’s pretty much only thing that can.
Last night was just so bad, made Preston game look good.
Well yehh but the stuff written on here every day for multiple years is laughable
so not much has changed .Try the Facebook group for a real eye opener.
How long do you give it before a change needs to happen
Say we lose on Saturday, is it game over for MR? Do you give it until Christmas?
As others have said, I don't think sacking MR would actually make much of a difference. Of course he deserves criticism - every year he doesn't seem to be able to find the right formation from the off, he rarely changes it during a game if it isn't going well, he doesn't make proactive subs to change a game and usually look predetermined like-for-like subs without looking at the way the game is going.
But everything else is just as bad.
The players look technically and mentally much worse than last year. This having brought in a whole new coaching set up seemingly built around player development and a Performance Director to deal with things like psychology yet we have players looking completely unconfident and unmotivated. Then we have a recruitment team who would appear to have recommended quite average players for top dollar prices. We've now got nothing left to sort the problems.
Then there's King, who appears to be 'interfering' by making these changes and refusing to allow transfers that won't result in a RoI, when he needs to realise the big picture is the team overall, not the transfer fees we can get from players. And you often find the former leads the latter. Good team playing well gets players sold for bigger transfer fees. Teams playing poorly and losing don't get players sold for large fees.
