Throw ins - Are we missing something? (1 Viewer)

GaryJones · Sep 4, 2018

Am I the only one who thinks we have a throw in problem?
Our throw ins do not seem to give us any advantage at all - we seem to throw it to a player under pressure or simply throw it and instantly lose possession.
Just noticed that Liverpool have taken on a dedicated "throw in coach". This guy teaches 3 different styles of throw in - BBC Radio 5 live - Football Daily, MNC: Hopeless Hammers, throw-in coaches and Deeney for England?, Could throw-ins help Liverpool win a trophy?

1 . The Long Throw in
2 . The Fast Throw in
3 . The clever Throw in

Think this might be worth a look for us as we seem to specialize in the fourth style of throw-in below.
4 . The totally Crap Throw in!

Nick · Sep 4, 2018

I think our players must get fined if anybody other than the full back takes them.

Nothing worse than a quick throw in being on but the player drops it for the full back to stroll up to stand about for ages.

GaryJones · Sep 4, 2018

Bring back Aron Gunnarsson!

pastythegreat · Sep 4, 2018

GaryJones said:
Bring back Aron Gunnarsson!

Why? We were useless when he was taking throw ins too

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 4, 2018

Gary has got a point; it does look like Sunday morning stuff when a short throw is taken onto the instep of our player to be passed straight out for the opposition's throw in. It may seem a small point, but you would think there ought to be time in the week to work on it. A quick throw stops the opposition getting set up to defend it, whereas a prolonged throw in (as alluded to by Nick) gives time for the opponents to make it more difficult to do anything productive. Every little helps, and all that.

lifeskyblue · Sep 4, 2018

Last season throw ins were unbelievably poor; slow, aimless and ineffective. I thought it was in part due to a reliance in Ryan Haynes to take them on the left side. It this season has been equally poor; we wait for the opposition to set up, have one player moving (at most) and rarely vary the 4yd throw into the crowded space. Rochdale caught us napping on a few occasions ...I can’t remember the last time we did that to you he opposition.

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Bertola · Sep 4, 2018

Robins mentioned how poor we were at throw ins last season at the Kit launch evening.

When i saw allassani's goal vs WBA, i thought we must have been working on them as it came from one... but there have still been a lot of poor throws in the league

eastwoodsdustman · Sep 4, 2018

Last year we had nobody who could throw the ball more than 10 yards and it looks the same this year. I had under 17's who could hit the six yard box 2 years ago. What's the issue?

Nick · Sep 4, 2018

eastwoodsdustman said:
Last year we had nobody who could throw the ball more than 10 yards and it looks the same this year. I had under 17's who could hit the six yard box 2 years ago. What's the issue?

It seems like they are told what to do with it.

The "throw it down the line to the striker with 2 men on him, the one behind is holding him down so he cant jump" one annoys me. Especially as theres nobody behind them to pick it up if they do win it.

GaryJones · Sep 4, 2018

This has to be a coaching issue.
While we are at it - in these following dead-ball sole possession scenarios we tend to follow the same line as throw ins
Corners - we are generally crap
Kick-offs - we are worse than crap
Penalties & Free Kicks - the jury is out for now but I've a feeling we might be crap with these too!

Liquid Gold · Sep 4, 2018

GaryJones said:
This has to be a coaching issue.
While we are at it - in these following dead-ball sole possession scenarios we tend to follow the same line as throw ins
Corners - we are generally crap
Kick-offs - we are worse than crap
Penalties & Free Kicks - the jury is out for now but I've a feeling we might be crap with these too!

50% of our goals this season have been direct free kicks.

GaryJones · Sep 4, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
50% of our goals this season have been direct free kicks.

Cute I like that!
Once we have actually scored more than 2 goals it might even go up to 66.6% but I suspect we will struggle to keep this ratio up!

rob9872 · Sep 4, 2018

I don't get annoyed that we're crap at them - I'm used to that. What I've found more frustrating over the past 12 months or so is that we are so slow at taking them to then still be crap. I do get it from the throwers view that there is often little movement but ffs just throw it quickly down the line and then make them run and shout at them when they don't - they'll soon get the message.

covcity4life · Sep 4, 2018

we are missing our own players when it comes to throw ins

Terry Gibson's perm · Sep 4, 2018

We always throw it to the man near and often he passes it back to the throwers chest or out of play.

Also Doyle needs to clear off when free kicks are being taken he just passes in to the centre backs and neither of them are that good on the ball, sometimes you can just put it into the opposition box and see what you get.

joemercersaces · Sep 4, 2018

Perfect example on Saturday. Rochdale had a throw-in about level with their penalty area. No pressure on them whatsoever. Said to the lads ‘watch what happens if we have a throw in a similar position’. Sure enough Rochdale pressured and harassed and won possession. Robins talks about other teams being streetwise all the time but it’s time we started making things as hard for them as they do for us. Lot of talk about the ‘Cov Dog’ from the rugby team, especially after holding a big strong Jersey team when down to13 men. Would love to see a bit more dog in the City team for once, snarl a bit, get in their faces.

no_loyalty · Sep 4, 2018

It could be far worse, we could have a goalkeeper who takes a goal kick and kicks it out for a corner

djr8369 · Sep 4, 2018

I feel like this has been a problem for years through different squads and managers? Similar to scoring from corners.

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Mcbean · Sep 4, 2018

No one moves into space to pick up a throw in except Doyle 2 yds from the taker - then its a hospital pass and we lose possession - can't be rocket science but seemingly its as difficult

GaryJones · Sep 4, 2018

covcity4life said:
we are missing our own players when it comes to throw ins

Now thats a problem!

SAJ · Sep 4, 2018

Can't remember us being good at throw ins for years either for us or defending them. The only time in recent history we were doing anything positive on corners was when Reda was with us. Prior to that was when we had Wood and Keogh in the team about 8 years ago.

cc84cov · Sep 4, 2018

General set pieces are poor

Calista · Sep 4, 2018

djr8369 said:
I feel like this has been a problem for years through different squads and managers? Similar to scoring from corners.
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It seems like decades to me - never in my (long) lifetime have we been anything other than crap at throw-ins.

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 4, 2018

joemercersaces said:
Perfect example on Saturday. Rochdale had a throw-in about level with their penalty area. No pressure on them whatsoever. Said to the lads ‘watch what happens if we have a throw in a similar position’. Sure enough Rochdale pressured and harassed and won possession. Robins talks about other teams being streetwise all the time but it’s time we started making things as hard for them as they do for us. Lot of talk about the ‘Cov Dog’ from the rugby team, especially after holding a big strong Jersey team when down to13 men. Would love to see a bit more dog in the City team for once, snarl a bit, get in their faces.

The football club from the village I grew up in were called the 'Cubbington ear biters'. Nick would have loved them!

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 4, 2018

Heard about this the other day
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45405476is

Hobo · Sep 4, 2018

Turning throw ins into attack...lack off movement.
Turning defence into attack...lack of movement.
Failure to keep possession...lack of movement.
Formations don't fail due to lack of rigidity....they fail due to lack of movement.

HerneBayGaz · Sep 4, 2018

GaryJones said:
Am I the only one who thinks we have a throw in problem?
Our throw ins do not seem to give us any advantage at all - we seem to throw it to a player under pressure or simply throw it and instantly lose possession.
Just noticed that Liverpool have taken on a dedicated "throw in coach". This guy teaches 3 different styles of throw in - BBC Radio 5 live - Football Daily, MNC: Hopeless Hammers, throw-in coaches and Deeney for England?, Could throw-ins help Liverpool win a trophy?

1 . The Long Throw in
2 . The Fast Throw in
3 . The clever Throw in

Think this might be worth a look for us as we seem to specialize in the fourth style of throw-in below.
4 . The totally Crap Throw in!

not only throw ins, it's Corners, Free kicks, Goal kicks are poor. You have to give the taker options, at times we are so static our players are too easily marked.

Gazolba · Sep 5, 2018

We're poor at throw-ins, free-kicks, corners, penalties, goal-kicks and shooting on target.
That doesn't leave much we ARE good at does it?

GaryJones · Sep 5, 2018

Oh I don’t know - we are good at not converting our chances.
I’m sure it will click soon though.

JimmyHillsbeard · Sep 5, 2018

GaryJones said:
Am I the only one who thinks we have a throw in problem?
Our throw ins do not seem to give us any advantage at all - we seem to throw it to a player under pressure or simply throw it and instantly lose possession.
Just noticed that Liverpool have taken on a dedicated "throw in coach". This guy teaches 3 different styles of throw in - BBC Radio 5 live - Football Daily, MNC: Hopeless Hammers, throw-in coaches and Deeney for England?, Could throw-ins help Liverpool win a trophy?

1 . The Long Throw in
2 . The Fast Throw in
3 . The clever Throw in

Think this might be worth a look for us as we seem to specialize in the fourth style of throw-in below.
4 . The totally Crap Throw in!

Ridiculous reception this has received in the media. Klopp has a throw-in specialist and it’s s sign of his visionary attention to detail, if it’d been Pulis or Graham Taylor or even Bobby Gould it would be a sign of their reliance on primitive tactics.

torchomatic · Sep 5, 2018

Yeah something I've noticed for a while. Player A (Brandon Mason this year) throws it to Player B who tries to cushion it back to Play A, usually resulting in the ball going straight out for an opposition throw.

Another ridiculous thing is insisting on a particular player to take a free kick. A case in point on Saturday when Hyam was going to take a free kick. Burge ran 30 yards to take it instead and then passed to Hyam anyway who was about 3 yards away!

Nick · Sep 5, 2018

torchomatic said:
Yeah something I've noticed for a while. Player A (Brandon Mason this year) throws it to Player B who tries to cushion it back to Play A, usually resulting in the ball going straight out for an opposition throw.

Another ridiculous thing is insisting on a particular player to take a free kick. A case in point on Saturday when Hyam was going to take a free kick. Burge ran 30 yards to take it instead and then passed to Hyam anyway who was about 3 yards away!

Same if Doyle wants to take it.

Would be interesting to know just how much they practise them.

Warwickhunt · Sep 5, 2018

most teams i watch throw the ball to the side of the player who is going to receive it who can then either turn with the ball or pass it back to the thrower under control! we throw it straight at the player who then has to try and control it(LOL) which pushes the ball back to the thrower who has to control it or he gets pressured and it goes out of play or just plain old shit skill levels prevail

Warwickhunt · Sep 5, 2018

I find that we dont work on trying to get an edge in the game through throw ins, freekicks, corners, trying to wind up the opposition etc

GaryJones · Sep 5, 2018

This is what we need - Liverpool throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark 'has the weirdest job in football'

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