Grendel
Well-Known Member
...and he has a win ratio that The Clueless One could only dream about.
Gunn was sacked after a 4-0 win, he also brought 12 players into the club before being fired.
You can't help yourself can you with your "I hope it is you" comment, you have to label every one as one of a Thorn supporter or a non supporter of ThornI take nothing out of context. My view is he is nowhere near management material and never has been. Your view is different. Fair enough. We will see who is proved right. I hope it is you.
But he was sacked because of the 7-1 loss the game beforeGunn was sacked after a 4-0 win, he also brought 12 players into the club before being fired.
But he was sacked because of the 7-1 loss the game before
I remember seeing it in an old programme my mate had where it showed the team with the formation, we used in at least 2 games. B.Gudjonsson, Delameaux, suffo, Macca, Joachim all played.
Well no, not really because of the relegation. The fact that they let him start the season and recruit players shown that they were willing to give him a chance however the extremity of the defeat forced the club into an extreme decisionOf course, and the relegation the season before.
And to answer your question if we were to lose 7-1 as Norwich did I think I would support the sacking of the manager
But not it seems the worst management record of any manager since 1917 - for that he deserves at least another 9 games.
Well no, not really because of the relegation. The fact that they let him start the season and recruit players shown that they were willing to give him a chance however the extremity of the defeat forced the club into an extreme decision
This was the quote
"However, the board met this week following Saturday's unacceptable record home defeat in our opening game of the season."
So his sacking was a direct result of the defeat
And to answer your question if we were to lose 7-1 as Norwich did I think I would support the sacking of the manager
1-1 is a little different to a 7-1 defeat with clive platt scoring against you
Norwich and Lambert used it in league 1 and championship, they are in the premier league now.
But don't let silly reasoning like that get in the way of your Thorn vendetta
Obviously there is more to management than just selecting a formation but the diamond can be successful if you have the right players and set up for it
If we are still playing bad and not looking like mounting a challenge after 10-15 games then I agree he should be replaced
Only an idiot would sack the manager after 1 game after allowing him to sign 9 new players just before that
Yea it wasn't just that they lost 7-1. It was more that they lost 7-1 to a team deemed largely inferior to themselves.I don't think this is accurate actually - as someone on here constantly refers to context - the context here was a poor performance following on from a poor season - if the defeat had been following a season in which norwich were promoted then the context would be different.
Yea it wasn't just that they lost 7-1. It was more that they lost 7-1 to a team deemed largely inferior to themselves.
However if they wanted to sack him because of relegation they would have done so in May and not August, I guess because of the result the club completely lost any faith they had in the manager previously
Just to check Clarrie, do you really think we should sack the manager after two games, one of which we won, one of which we drew? Or are your views based on the fact that you've already made your mind up about Thorn based on last season? Either way, sacking the manager 2 games into the new season is unreasonable and unrealistic. Lose the next two, then you might have a case.
Just to check Clarrie, do you really think we should sack the manager after two games, one of which we won, one of which we drew? Or are your views based on the fact that you've already made your mind up about Thorn based on last season? Either way, sacking the manager 2 games into the new season is unreasonable and unrealistic. Lose the next two, then you might have a case.
Well I guess it comes down to if you think Andy Thorn failed last season, the club failed but was that because of the manager failing and letting us down or the owners failing to provide him with sufficient resources.ok, so you want to judge after 10 games or so, that's fair enough, in fact everyone has different thresholds for acceptable failure, what I don't get is what makes it unacceptable for others to come to the conclusion earler ie. last season?
Let's say you want him out after 15 games but others make excuses for more time and others try to keep you silent on the topic and in the end your team get's relegated - for me this was last season! That's just for me - you might be different and that's ok but, it really p1sses me off that people with pro thorn opinions try to hammer those who berate him for his shortcomings
Just my 2 cents
I have made my mind up - he is incapable of delivering on his promises IMO
There are however unknown quantities in the players now at the club but the most critical components of leadership are missing - to me at least.
Well I guess it comes down to if you think Andy Thorn failed last season, the club failed but was that because of the manager failing and letting us down or the owners failing to provide him with sufficient resources.
If you rated last seasons squad as better than 3 others in the division then yes the manager failed us which is fair enough
If you rated the squad as among the 3 worse in the division then the owners failed us
Not unreasonable if you believe he is unsuitable. I mean if you are not convinced George Osbourne is good for the economy and were told stop complaining he has 3 more years would you stop complaining? No of course not. Unrealistic yes probably but I still am surprised that for a so called popular manager people were ringing CWR saying ditch him even after a creditable enough draw.
Well I guess it comes down to if you think Andy Thorn failed last season, the club failed but was that because of the manager failing and letting us down or the owners failing to provide him with sufficient resources.
If you rated last seasons squad as better than 3 others in the division then yes the manager failed us which is fair enough
If you rated the squad as among the 3 worse in the division then the owners failed us
Not unreasonable if you believe he is unsuitable. I mean if you are not convinced George Osbourne is good for the economy and were told stop complaining he has 3 more years would you stop complaining? No of course not. Unrealistic yes probably but I still am surprised that for a so called popular manager people were ringing CWR saying ditch him even after a creditable enough draw.
Not really. If you consider an individual lacks all qualities for the position he is in resources and results are an irrelevance - he is still unsuitable and will always fail to achieve. We could have the worst squad in the world - we still could have a manager unfit for purpose.
But not it seems the worst management record of any manager since 1917 - for that he deserves at least another 9 games.
Don't judge Thorn on last season, judge him ten games in.
This is now HIS squad of players and deserves to take some critism if it's looking bad a coupel of months in!
I thought people were saying how he was responsible for scouting every player in the history of the club? Now it turns out that none of the players were anything to do with him?!
I thought people were saying how he was responsible for scouting every player in the history of the club? Now it turns out that none of the players were anything to do with him?!
Well you thought wrong then, didn't you.
Well you thought wrong then, didn't you.
Sorry, I forgot only the successful players were thanks to him...even before he came to the club.
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