Thorn got it wrong today... (4 Viewers)

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Why bring o'donvan on for Cody and why not strength the midfield up when bigi got sent off! Basic knowledge of the game and it wasnt used today.

And why o why is it we can't hold onto leads.

ccfcway · Oct 22, 2011

"we don't like injury time"

Thorns words !!!

We can still go up !!

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Well all know that, what's he going to do to sort it out? Too many times and it's not even november

ajsccfc · Oct 22, 2011

O'Donovan had been on for a good 10 minutes before the red card.

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

The game changed when McDonald went off. He was a threat all game and no need to go off. 3 points lost today.

PVA · Oct 22, 2011

McDonald is not fit enough to play 90 minutes at full pelt. Don't have a problem with that decision, although had Platt been available I would have liked him to come on.

As for strengthening the midfield how do you suggest he did that? Unless he took ROD off, who'd only been on 10 minutes, there was no way of strengthening the midfield without taking off Juke which just isn't an option as we need him to hold it up and also defend set pieces.

operationprem · Oct 22, 2011

U don't think the ref had anything to do with it? One of the worst I've seen at the ricoh, we don't know how fit cody is either an to be fair to burnley they played well after we scored...thought Murphy played well...but we should of finished way before the sending off

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 22, 2011

I think the game had changed when we scored, instead of giving us confidence it done completely the opposite. The players seemed to freeze up and we stopped doing all the good things that had got us into the lead.
I also agree that the sub was very strange. Should have bought on Cameron for Christie and send Keogh RB and bought Deeg's on for one of the midfielders. Obviously the reasoning for the Cody sub would have been fitness but he could have got through to the end of the game on the buzz of scoring his first goal.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

McDonald went off because he'd picked up a knock. End of thread.

stupot07 · Oct 22, 2011

Mumford and Daughter said:
The game changed when McDonald went off. He was a threat all game and no need to go off. 3 points lost today.

No the game changed on 40 minutes when Burnley put Austin on and went from a 4231 to a 442. This stopped us from passing it around the back four and getting our passing going. First half we had 55% possession, at the end of the game we had 40%, and we only played with 10 men for 15 mins.

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

You lot for real? McDonald has been at the club for 2 months now. If he's not fit now then what's going? He could have took off bell and bought Deegan on and rod to move into bell position.

Ref got both decisions right today well the major ones anyway

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

He was injured

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
McDonald went off because he'd picked up a knock. End of thread.

Did he? Looked alright to me when hewent off. And you thought he shouldn't off bought Deegan on after bigi got sent off?

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

Yeah I'd have brought Deegan on for Thomas, but can see why he didn't want to bring on Cameron for Cyrus (disrupting the back line).

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Yeah I'd have brought Deegan on for Thomas, but can see why he didn't want to bring on Cameron for Cyrus (disrupting the back line).

So why if everyone can see it thorn couldn't?

Walking Bird · Oct 22, 2011

PVA said:
McDonald is not fit enough to play 90 minutes at full pelt. Don't have a problem with that decision, although had Platt been available I would have liked him to come on.

As for strengthening the midfield how do you suggest he did that? Unless he took ROD off, who'd only been on 10 minutes, there was no way of strengthening the midfield without taking off Juke which just isn't an option as we need him to hold it up and also defend set pieces.

McDonald didn't look to me to be struggling when he was taken off. When the sending off happened its imaterial whether ROD had only been on a few minutes, Juke up front on his own & Deegs on in place of ROD was the way to go.

wingy · Oct 22, 2011

cyrus legs were gone 'could'nt cope with stanislas,ref diabolicle they got every advantage given he could possibly give,the midfield needed strengthening at the point cody went off as Burnley had bossed it up to the goal,regardless of Bigi ,they got awaay with a two footed lunge on the edge of the box with contact ,the goal was offside ,where was platt ,is he injurered.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

If he'd have brought a midfielder on for a striker you'd all have called him too negative...

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 22, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
If he'd have brought a midfielder on for a striker you'd all have called him too negative...

Not if we had won

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Not when Burnley were dominating play!

Otis · Oct 22, 2011

Very big mistake by Thorn today. Totally agree.

The balance of the game completely changed after we scored and it was all Burnley from then on with us completely on the back foot. I was screaming for a sub or two. There was only one team in it and we had to change things but didn't. Don't suppose it's Thorn's fault that ROD is a parks player, but he could have brought Deegan on for sure. We were being totally overrun and it needed fresh legs, a bit of steel and basically a tactical change to try and change the course of the game.

Find it absolutely unbelievable that Thorn only brought ROD on and we just let Burnley keep coming at us. For me it would have been Bell off for Deegan and I may have been inclined to bring Cameron on to to add a bit of physical presence.

Poor management today for sure.

Walking Bird · Oct 22, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
If he'd have brought a midfielder on for a striker you'd all have called him too negative...

Not when we were down to 10 men.

Lord_Nampil · Oct 22, 2011

Deegan and Cameran should have both come on for Christie and any of the midfielders once Bigi got sent off, Thorn had the power to do it, and didnt! Is he badly advised??? Or is it hime?? Either way it can not carry on through the season! As for Cody if he had a knock fair enough, but to me he was our best player today !!!

I get the feeling fans are starting to question Thorns ability at making the right decision regarding subs and tactics, evedent on CWR tonight!!!

Lloyd · Oct 22, 2011

hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it...

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

Walking Bird said:
Not when we were down to 10 men.

I thought the red was before the sub? The red was 80 mins, the sub 68. So there.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 22, 2011

Either way something needs to be done to stop us conceding late goal as it is borderline joke now.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

Lloyd said:
hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it...

We're all great managers on a forum though aint we Lloyd?

Mumford and Daughter · Oct 22, 2011

Lloyd said:
hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it...

No football knowledge is a wonderful thing. We could all see Burnley were the only team to be scoring the winning goal.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

CCFC said:
Either way something needs to be done to stop us conceding late goal as it is borderline joke now.

It's youth. Thomas was asleep for one of the goals, for example.

Walking Bird · Oct 22, 2011

Nonleagueherewecome said:
I thought the red was before the sub? The red was 80 mins, the sub 68. So there.

What i meant was after the sending off. ROD should have been changed for Deegs.

Otis · Oct 22, 2011

Lloyd said:
hindsight is a wonderful thing isnt it...

How is it hindsight when I like others spotted and identified it during the game? :thinking about:

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 22, 2011

Also what was the crack with Murphy and Hussey hoofing into the corners, I thought I was watching a rugby game where we were kicking for territory at that point.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

That would have been admitting we were hanging on rather than retain a threat with 2 up. O'Donovan in theory has pace, but after no match action in a month he appears to have lost his match fitness-as illustrated when he tried to knock it around Easton and run on to it, and Easton left him for dust. We made numerous individual errors in their goals, including Wood and Keogh who have been superb. You can't legislate for that. No wonder the manager's pissed off.

Lloyd · Oct 22, 2011

Mumford and Daughter said:
No football knowledge is a wonderful thing. We could all see Burnley were the only team to be scoring the winning goal.

really mumford, are you in a high pressure job where every decision that you make can literally mean your job is in jeopardy. While I don't agree with every single decision Thorn has made, I know that even the best managers don't make the best decision every time.

as for conceding a lot after 90 minutes, that's something that you can't stop overnight, only through experience can our kids overcome that but it will take time.

Nonleagueherewecome · Oct 22, 2011

Otis said:
How is it hindsight when I like others spotted and identified it during the game? :thinking about:

I thought you couldn't make it today, Otis? What, did you grow some and tell your daughter who the boss is? :

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