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luwalla

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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signed for them on a perm deal...

I liked the lad & got potential but had to laugh at this in the press release "Not only is Thomas adept at finishing..." err , he worried defences with his runs but the one thing he was not, was adept at finishing!
 
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cooperskyblue

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #2
Good luck to him, was always a threat, even if he was having a bad game his pace caused teams all sorts of problems. When he sorts out his finishing I think he will score a hatful of goals!
 
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jordan210

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #3
Surprised Derby let him go on a permanent.

If he sorts out his finishing will be a top player
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #4
Still believe if he was played on the left to shoot across keepers he would have scored more, good player though
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #5
Ah, ok - read this as George, not Luke!
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #6
His best finish of the season was against Barnsley so they're probably basing it on that!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #7
jordan210 said:
Surprised Derby let him go on a permanent.

If he sorts out his finishing will be a top player
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I agree. At the moment Luke Thomas couldn't finish a senten
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree. At the moment Luke Thomas couldn't finish a senten
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May the force be with you, Luke,
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #9
If Derby think that much of him, they wouldn't have sold him to one of their competitors for next season, unless there is a clause in there that says he has to be loaned out. So maybe they don't rate him!
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #10
£1.2M for a forward who couldn't finish his dinner. Good luck to him but he's nowhere near good enough to play in the Championship.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #11
Quite liked him and has potential but as he is Derby have done well with £1.2m and he's top of league 1 level at v best

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cc84cov

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #12
All the best Luke
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #13
SkyBlueCRJ said:
£1.2M for a forward who couldn't finish his dinner. Good luck to him but he's nowhere near good enough to play in the Championship.
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Not having that. With his work rate and on the pitch attitude he will do just fine in the Championship, and Barnsley who are likely to have to scrap for points will be glad (and lucky) to have him.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Not having that. With his work rate and on the pitch attitude he will do just fine in the Championship, and Barnsley who are likely to have to scrap for points will be glad (and lucky) to have him.
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Why are you 'not having that'? His finishing and overall final product was appalling last season - he arguably cost us points against Burton, Portsmouth and others due to his lack of ability in the final third. If he's struggling with his final product in League One how do you think he'll fare in the Championship against better defenders and better goalkeepers?

I'd agree he has a solid work rate and attitude but sometimes that isn't enough I'm afraid
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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SkyBlueCRJ said:
Why are you 'not having that'? His finishing and overall final product was appalling last season - he arguably cost us points against Burton, Portsmouth and others due to his lack of ability in the final third. If he's struggling with his final product in League One how do you think he'll fare in the Championship against better defenders and better goalkeepers?

I'd agree he has a solid work rate and attitude but sometimes that isn't enough I'm afraid
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Clueless
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Grendel said:
Clueless
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Who's clueless?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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SkyBlueCRJ said:
Who's clueless?
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You are clearly
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Grendel said:
You are clearly
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Come on then Grendal give me your words of wisdom or do you not have an intellectual response? I know you usually struggle in that department.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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SkyBlueCRJ said:
Come on then Grendal give me your words of wisdom or do you not have an intellectual response? I know you usually struggle in that department.
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For a start he is 19 and this was his first season of full time professional football

In the first half of the season he was by some distance the most effective forward in the squad

He has a high work rate for a player of his type which is an essential requirement the higher up the leagues you go.

His pace is a major attribute - it allows him to take defenders with him and free up space for other forwards

In short he’s a fine attribute with significant potential which is why someone paid over a million pounds for him
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Grendel said:
For a start he is 19 and this was his first season of full time professional football

In the first half of the season he was by some distance the most effective forward in the squad

He has a high work rate for a player of his type which is an essential requirement the higher up the leagues you go.

His pace is a major attribute - it allows him to take defenders with him and free up space for other forwards

In short he’s a fine attribute with significant potential which is why someone paid over a million pounds for him
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For starters he's 20.

I've not said he's a bad player. I've said he's nowhere near Championship material. That doesn't mean he won't be in the future as he's still young. I know Derby are struggling on the financial front but surely if they rated him so highly or he such significant potential they wouldn't have accepted a bid off a Championship rival. So the question remains why sell him?

You haven't touched on his final product at all so I reiterate what basis do you have on calling me clueless? All you've pointed out is his physical attributes. Does that mean he'll become established in the Championship next season or even the season after? No it doesn't because he still has a lot to learn technically. Given Barnsley's investment it's clear he'll play a significant part of their campaign next season. If you don't think he'll struggle that's fine, I'm not five so it doesn't bother me if people have a different opinion to me, but given he struggled significantly during the second half of the season at League One I'd hedge my bets he won't be setting the world alight in a higher division next year.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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SkyBlueCRJ said:
For starters he's 20.

I've not said he's a bad player. I've said he's nowhere near Championship material. That doesn't mean he won't be in the future as he's still young. I know Derby are struggling on the financial front but surely if they rated him so highly or he such significant potential they wouldn't have accepted a bid off a Championship rival. So the question remains why sell him?

You haven't touched on his final product at all so I reiterate what basis do you have on calling me clueless? All you've pointed out is his physical attributes. Does that mean he'll become established in the Championship next season or even the season after? No it doesn't because he still has a lot to learn technically. Given Barnsley's investment it's clear he'll play a significant part of their campaign next season. If you don't think he'll struggle that's fine, I'm not five so it doesn't bother me if people have a different opinion to me, but given he struggled significantly during the second half of the season at League One I'd hedge my bets he won't be setting the world alight in a higher division next year.
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You’d have said the same thing about Callum Wilson
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Grendel said:
You’d have said the same thing about Callum Wilson
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And you wouldn’t have?
 

fatso

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #23
Grendel said:
For a start he is 19 and this was his first season of full time professional football

In the first half of the season he was by some distance the most effective forward in the squad

He has a high work rate for a player of his type which is an essential requirement the higher up the leagues you go.

His pace is a major attribute - it allows him to take defenders with him and free up space for other forwards

In short he’s a fine attribute with significant potential which is why someone paid over a million pounds for him
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He's definitely young, but I think that's the only bit I agree with.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #24
SkyBlueCRJ said:
£1.2M for a forward who couldn't finish his dinner. Good luck to him but he's nowhere near good enough to play in the Championship.
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£1.2M for a Championship club is peanuts in today's market, it's probably worth the risk.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #25
no_loyalty said:
£1.2M for a Championship club is peanuts in today's market, it's probably worth the risk.
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Perhaps for a top 6 club but for the likes of Barnsley. That's still a pretty significant sum for a team in the bottom half of the table. Look at last summers spend from the likes of Sheff W, Wigan, QPR, Millwall etc. It's a pretty sizeable investment considering.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #26
luwalla said:
signed for them on a perm deal...

I liked the lad & got potential but had to laugh at this in the press release "only Thomas is not adept at finishing..." err , he worried defences with his runs but the one thing he was not, was adept at finishing!
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #27
Anyone heard anything on a replacement for him?? We still need a pacey right sided winger
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #28
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Anyone heard anything on a replacement for him?? We still need a pacey right sided winger
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The fact that we've heard NOTHING about a winger coming in makes me believe we'll replace Thomas with another loan - which means waiting and seeing who's available.
 
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Adge

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #29
Always gave his best-hope he does well there.
 

christonabike

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #30
Lively got into guilt edge chance positions and spooned 90% of them.
We love a player who runs a round but if he improves great but you can only go on what we have seen.
I would be gutted if he signed on his performances last year. We can’t afford to create chances for another year for him to make the wrong decision.
 
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  • Jun 14, 2019
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Grendel said:
For a start he is 19 and this was his first season of full time professional football

In the first half of the season he was by some distance the most effective forward in the squad

He has a high work rate for a player of his type which is an essential requirement the higher up the leagues you go.

His pace is a major attribute - it allows him to take defenders with him and free up space for other forwards

In short he’s a fine attribute with significant potential which is why someone paid over a million pounds for him
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Some people seem to forget how early and mid season he carried our attacking threat almost singlehandedly at times.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 14, 2019
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I'd like to have seen him with us for another season to see if he came on a bit more. He might struggle in the championship.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #33
V good player and will only contonue to improve
 
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skyblue025

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  • Jun 15, 2019
  • #34
1.2 million. That might put into perspective what we can hope to get for Bayliss. Thomas looked a much better player than our Tom last season. (Apart from his finishing)
 
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The Lurker

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  • Jun 15, 2019
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he was learning his trade here and you can see the potential. 1.2 mill for Thomas is a bargain.
 
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