Had an amazing "customer service experience" at a (newly refurbished) shoe shop in Leamington this week: she avoided eye contact constantly. Chose some things to try on, tried them on, had some questions but instead put them back then walked out-not once did she look up from whatever task she was focussed on at the counter!Anyone at a till who looks at you blankly when you arrive.
I raise you CDG ! No logic to the terminals , don’t take luggage - some terminals have little food of any nourishmentMarseille airport.
When we started with them our bill was about £45, this year it’s £75 a month. Called them up and told them we wanted to cancel as it was taking the piss, they offered us a package for £45 again if we accepted an O2 SIM card. Random but acceptedBill increases - mobile firms - so virgin just announced going forward broadband will increase by RPI + 3.9% per year
Do that for 10 years and their bills get 45% dearer in real terms
What is wrong with increasing by inflation, or even more so where tech gets ever cheaper less than inflation
Tbf It wasn’t too bad as we got there early and got a seat. However, had we not it would’ve been shite! Surprised how basic it was, given how big Marseille is.I raise you CDG ! No logic to the terminals , don’t take luggage - some terminals have little food of any nourishment
Tbf It wasn’t too bad as we got there early and got a seat. However, had we not it would’ve been shite! Surprised how basic it was, given how big Marseille is.
I’ve Not been to CDG but it sounds like a theme…
We got the same deal, we'd come out of our contract and they upped us to £160 a month, we booked city fibre and got a stick and told them we were leaving, they then offered my wife everything for £45 as long as we had an O2 SIM for £25, my lad needed a sim so we accepted.When we started with them our bill was about £45, this year it’s £75 a month. Called them up and told them we wanted to cancel as it was taking the piss, they offered us a package for £45 again if we accepted an O2 SIM card. Random but accepted
They offered us the package for £42 and the SIM for £5, which compared to the theft of £75 seemed good.We got the same deal, we'd come out of our contract and they upped us to £160 a month, we booked city fibre and got a stick and told them we were leaving, they then offered my wife everything for £45 as long as we had an O2 SIM for £25, my lad needed a sim so we accepted.
Vapes and smoking are both for thick people anyway.I'll stick with NHS.UK thanks.
You keep peddling your ill informed nonsense.
Just please don't try and convince current smokers that vaping is just as bad as smoking.
You may be responsible for their death from cancer.
Cousin got your account again?Vapes and smoking are both for thick people anyway.
No we both think it's dumb as fuckCousin got your account again?
Well, I used to smoke…was lucky enough to be able to give up. Am I now not thick?No we both think it's dumb as fuck
Vapes and smoking are both for thick people anyway.
My neighbour frequently walks through our village in his karate outfit with his black belt on. I don’t even know if he’s off to a lesson but for some reason it fecking annoys me!!! I’d love to get out there and start throwing some haymakers at him but the wife wants a peaceful life.
Yes. CongratulationsWell, I used to smoke…was lucky enough to be able to give up. Am I now not thick?
Knob !My neighbour frequently walks through our village in his karate outfit with his black belt on. I don’t even know if he’s off to a lesson but for some reason it fecking annoys me!!! I’d love to get out there and start throwing some haymakers at him but the wife wants a peaceful life.
Excellent analysis as ever
To answer your specific question, one answer is the workplace exposure limit, above which you must not allow anyone to be exposed (while at work). This value for formaldehyde is 2 parts per million. That said, this also takes into account dilution in room atmospheres, etc., not drawing it directly into your lungs, so i suspect the harmful level in the respiratory tract is considerably lower than 2ppm.That's not a source.
What chemistry?
What compounds?
At what level is formaldehyde bad for a person?
This reads like a piss poor rehash of something someone has posted on social media.
Your post said "you might as well smoke".
I disagree, as does the NHS.
Convince me please.
It's a fucking category 1 carcinogen, FFS - there are decades of research into how much harm it can cause in the human body!Please provide evidence that vapers "may as well just smoke".
Soundbiites and anecdotes are all very Tory (have you had enough of experts?)
Evidence please that people who vape "may as well just smoke".
This is descending into debate by opinion.
As for formaldehyde.
Uh! Formaldehyde! isn't a reasoned argument against vaping.
Facts please.
That's Leicestershire for you!Still miles ahead of Birmingham and East Midlands, the latter is like going back 20 years in time.
This is tedious beyond belief.It's a fucking category 1 carcinogen, FFS - there are decades of research into how much harm it can cause in the human body!
The shit that those things put into your lungs is so bad you may as well just smoke.
In one corner we have two qualified scientists.This is tedious beyond belief.
I repeat. Where is the evidence that...
In saying ‘May as well smoke’ I’m saying that as someone who does neither, they’re both going to make my health worse and not trivially. It is also worth noting that long term epidemiology on vaping doesn’t exist yet as it is fairly recent so most of what we have comes from chemical and biological analysis of what happens when you vape.To be fair, I see @JAM See asking for proof that vaping is as bad (or worse) than smoking.
You've clearly presented evidence that vaping is bad for you....and hes not arguing that fact...
Hes asking for peer reviewed evidence that vaping is as bad as smoking?
Thank you for distilling my ramblings into one coherent post.To be fair, I see @JAM See asking for proof that vaping is as bad (or worse) than smoking.
You've clearly presented evidence that vaping is bad for you....and hes not arguing that fact...
Hes asking for peer reviewed evidence that vaping is as bad as smoking?
In saying ‘May as well smoke’ I’m saying that as someone who does neither, they’re both going to make my health worse and not trivially. It is also worth noting that long term epidemiology on vaping doesn’t exist yet as it is fairly recent so most of what we have comes from chemical and biological analysis of what happens when you vape.
I did also post a paper that shows similar DNA damage resulting from both. That literally does what he’s asking.
Read the papers and go into the technical details. My point was I wouldn't want the contents of either in my lungs.pretty much every study I’ve seen through the media says vaping isn’t as bad. You don’t inhale that stuff do you?
I have smoked and I can’t see the attraction of vaping
Government guidelines are also on drinking totally ridiculous
Classic 'whataboutery' , straight from the conspiracy theory playbook.Read the papers and go into the technical details. My point was I wouldn't want the contents of either in my lungs.
Being patronised on the subject by someone who doesn't know what formaldehyde is and just cites the NHS information page is funnily enough a 'thing that annoys me'.
The shit that those things put into your lungs is so bad you may as well just smoke.
Apologies, just seen this (was in Cardiff last night and must have scrolled down to latest).To answer your specific question, one answer is the workplace exposure limit, above which you must not allow anyone to be exposed (while at work). This value for formaldehyde is 2 parts per million. That said, this also takes into account dilution in room atmospheres, etc., not drawing it directly into your lungs, so i suspect the harmful level in the respiratory tract is considerably lower than 2ppm.
Further to this, the article cited by @Brighton Sky Blue includes the sentence "We show that, within the tested e-cigarette brands, thermal decomposition of flavoring compounds dominates formation of aldehydes during vaping, producing levels that exceed occupational safety standards."
If your employer would be prosecuted for exposing you to such levels, why on earth would you choose to inhale it directly into your lungs?
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