Sick Boy
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Enjoy!
Enjoy!I retire in exactly 4 weeks. That will stop me
Do they still sell truffles there?I doubled my salary overnight.
That wasn't through any special move. I lost my job, my relationship broke down, I went travelling. I basically had nothing left.
When I came back and tried to get myself back to some kind of normal, I applied for a series of jobs. The one I got ended up being twice the salary of the one I was let go from. I genuinely couldn't believe it. I got the keys to the city of my dreams in the process.
Some poor soul has got it way worse. For what? Luck? A balance of bad karma, perhaps. I've got no doubt you've worked really hard, and you seem like a great lad, but let's not hit on others for wanting to do better.
Do they still sell truffles there?
A pay rise is a rise in pay. But on here the truth is not the truth
Oh yeah, I forgot who I was arguing with. Sorry.A pay rise is a rise in pay. But on here the truth is not the truth
Me too. I never stop learning/googles before agreeing!
Of course. Sorry I forgot that I am always supposed to be wrong.Oh yeah, I forgot who I was arguing with. Sorry.
Fair play for seeing it that way - there's a socialist in you yetSome poor soul has got it way worse. For what? Luck? A balance of bad karma, perhaps. I've got no doubt you've worked really hard, and you seem like a great lad, but let's not hit on others for wanting to do better.
I'm finding the whole thing absurd... and then I realised whyThis is a bit of a strange argument. I started teaching on one salary, and increased it through promotion and taking on extra responsibilities. My pay will pretty much be this now unless I move into senior management.
Teachers as a general rule are very reluctant strikers, because we feel we are letting children down by doing it. But things have got so bad in the sector that it has become our only option to get education the funding it deserves. As for me personally, I am looking to drop my salary even if just temporarily in order to get my work life balance back.
Sure am planning toEnjoy!
If you want to hear from the union itself on why this is happening then here is useful.Of course. Sorry I forgot that I am always supposed to be wrong.
No supposed to be about itOf course. Sorry I forgot that I am always supposed to be wrong.
so therefore who cares about those who have no job security, no pension, and terrible working conditions.
No denying it's a good pay and a very stable job. But why it struggles to attract and retain anyone despite that is quite revealing. In the last 5 years I have also had 3 colleagues drop dead, one on the job, and all from heart attacks. That's been the biggest slap in the face for me personally.I'm finding the whole thing absurd... and then I realised why
Anyway, it's a small distinction, but of course £44k is a good salary that many would dream of. That doesn't stop people trying to increase it because they feel their profession is being devalued over time - to borrow an Italiaism, it's not a race to the bottom. I don't understand in the slightest the focus on your individual job - for context, UCU are striking yes about pay, yes about pensions... but also because of the conditions of hourly paid lecturers. It's collective action, innit, not the professors deciding they earn a lot, so therefore who cares about those who have no job security, no pension, and terrible working conditions.
Education funding?If you want to hear from the union itself on why this is happening then here is useful.
To be clear, over 300,000 teachers were balloted by post during a postal strike and general postal disruption, and had to meet 50% turnout under these conditions to strike. To do that in a profession that is generally strike averse tells you how serious things have got. Yes this is a dispute on pay, it's also a dispute on education funding.
I fail to see how teachers striking somehow means less solidarity with other workers. Anyway, I hope you have a long and enjoyable retirement.Which is my point that I am glad you understand. We're all supposed to be in this together.
I completely agree. I'd then refer you to all of the multi academy trust executives and staff, who didn't exist before academisation, but are now taking in 6 figure salaries despite offering nothing to the front line service. Get rid of them and it means more money for the day to day operations of the school.Education funding?
Just like the NHS. Funded enough but the money goes to the wrong places. Those giving the effort not paid enough and those stealing a living are forgotten about.
Try being a shift worker. We know we live many years less. But because we don't have a title like school teacher we don't get considered. Lost the last colleague just a couple of months ago to a heart attack. His son watched me giving first aid for over 30 minutes until the paramedics arrived. He was only 51. Slap in the face? I wish it was as simple.No denying it's a good pay and a very stable job. But why it struggles to attract and retain anyone despite that is quite revealing. In the last 5 years I have also had 3 colleagues drop dead, one on the job, and all from heart attacks. That's been the biggest slap in the face for me personally.
Which is my point.I completely agree. I'd then refer you to all of the multi academy trust executives and staff, who didn't exist before academisation, but are now taking in 6 figure salaries despite offering nothing to the front line service. Get rid of them and it means more money for the day to day operations of the school.
I agree. But what would they be happy with after a 100% payrise after just 5 years.
Try being a shift worker. We know we live many years less. But because we don't have a title like school teacher we don't get considered. Lost the last colleague just a couple of months ago to a heart attack. His son watched me giving first aid for over 30 minutes until the paramedics arrived. He was only 51. Slap in the face? I wish it was as simple.
We're all on the same side at the end of the day. I could go on about you being able to retire at 55 while I'll probably be working till I'm 70, but what good would it do? None.Try being a shift worker. We know we live many years less. But because we don't have a title like school teacher we don't get considered. Lost the last colleague just a couple of months ago to a heart attack. His son watched me giving first aid for over 30 minutes until the paramedics arrived. He was only 51. Slap in the face? I wish it was as simple.
Not in the public sector though, Wingy. The graph below is from the BBC website, and indicates current public sector pay rises running at 4.2% p.a. But the purple line between Jan 2020 and July 2021 of 3.5 to 5% is still nowhere near reflective of the increases seen by university staff (and it's not just professors who are in UCU, but professional services too). My take-home went up by the massive sum of 2% between April 2019 and April 2021, when also taking into account the criminal dismantling of the pension scheme, thanks to a skewed valuation of the scheme's reserves that was made at the start of the pandemic. Many UCU members in their 30s, for example, will see a reduction in the amount in their pension pot of 35% over the course of their retirement, while still having to pay higher contributions. Yes, professors are paid a very healthy wage, but there are a lot of people employed in universities who are struggling.According to figures today salaries are increasing at 7.7%
I guess the key factor here that should be established - is the motivation to murder this poor girl based on decisions she made about herself that no other person has the right to question or judge her for.To move on from discussions about the [deserved] size of Brighton's pay packet for a moment, which doesn't annoy me in the slightest, to something that does ...
The murder of this 16 year old in Warrington (noting that two 15 year olds have been charged and will appear in court today) is being "bigged-up" in the media as being investigated by the police as a possible "hate crime".
This phrase really bugs me, not just about this case but whenever it is used.. WHAT ON EARTH could be more hateful than taking someone's life?
I think it is valid that the motivation for the crime should be investigated and reported to the court, but it should be used at the sentencing stage, escalating the potential sentence upon conviction. It was HIDEOUS what happened to this young person, but the fact that they were a trans girl is being made so much of in the media, and taking away from the fact that they were a human being.
Your earnings are easily high enough to retire early. You will have a pension that most can only dream of. But can you live a frugal life and save every penny and invest it?We're all on the same side at the end of the day. I could go on about you being able to retire at 55 while I'll probably be working till I'm 70, but what good would it do? None.
I absolutely agree with you, Ian. My point is that we, the public, don't need to be told whether the police are investigating it as a hate crime or not. Investigate it as a killing and it should be for the court to decide whether it was motivated by what is defined as hate, and apply the appropriate tariff when sentencing.I guess the key factor here that should be established - is the motivation to murder this poor girl based on decisions she made about herself that no other person has the right to question or judge her for.
RIP Brianna
After nearly 30 years my pay, including promotions, has gone up just 160%. But fair play to you.That’s through promotion though. Hell have gone up the pay scales and likely got a TLR. First five years of my private sector work my pay has gone up 250% mostly by job switching.
And my pay's gone down in actual terms (not even adjusting for inflation) since 2008.After nearly 30 years my pay, including promotions, has gone up just 160%. But fair play to you.
I'll add rhyme time at the library into it then!The 'things that annoy you' thread turning into a yet another politics thread.
I've worked out now that the wheels on the bus go round and round, thank you very much.I'll add rhyme time at the library into it then!
I've worked out now that the wheels on the bus go round and round, thank you very much.
The 'things that annoy you' thread turning into a yet another politics thread.
After nearly 30 years my pay, including promotions, has gone up just 160%. But fair play to you.
I don’t really agree - I haven’t seen anything from the media coverage to suggest this crime was somehow worse than any other child murder. (Some trans people online have even claimed this story has had LESS coverage than other similar crimes - I don’t know if that’s true) Plus I think it’s only natural for people to want to know the details (and therefore the possible motivations) of a shocking case like this one. Just as people seeing reports of a terror attack etc want to know the reasons why.I absolutely agree with you, Ian. My point is that we, the public, don't need to be told whether the police are investigating it as a hate crime or not. Investigate it as a killing and it should be for the court to decide whether it was motivated by what is defined as hate, and apply the appropriate tariff when sentencing.
It's part of the media's attempt to make people feel that something is being done on a higher level because she was trans, i think, and the constant "thirst for knowledge" that has arisen in the age of social media.
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