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The shushing Shipley (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date May 1, 2021
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Tommo1993

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #106
I really do think he’s got it in his locker to be good enough at this level.

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covcity4life

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #107
Tommo1993 said:
I really do think he’s got it in his locker to be good enough at this level.

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He's not fast hes not strong hes not clever

Just has a good shot on him

Thank you for helping us but it's time to go
 

Hobo

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #108
I think he has suffered more than most from Covid break in training. I would like to see him with a proper pre seasons training under his belt. Could be useful squad player and wouldn't mind giving him another year.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #109
Hasn't he recently signed for a couple years anyway
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #110
Evo1883 said:
Hasn't he recently signed for a couple years anyway
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GOOD. Even if it’s just to get on people’s nerves.
 

Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #111
Evo1883 said:
Hasn't he recently signed for a couple years anyway
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out of contract at end of next season
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #112
Grendel said:
out of contract at end of next season
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So unless there's an offer he's here
 

Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #113
Evo1883 said:
So unless there's an offer he's here
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If I was him I’d try and find an exit strategy in the summer
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #114
Grendel said:
If I was him I’d try and find an exit strategy in the summer
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I think it’s best for both parties. He will find a club at a top end league 1 side no doubt.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #115
rob9872 said:
You're right he's a striker who cost us £1m and scored 1 in 5 but is seen as the messiah
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Really? I don't think so. I think he can be a good finisher but without that far too often games pass him by. You couldn't play him on his own up front.

Grendel had an argument about the adoration of Biamou while people castigated Walker, so it appears he is both a messiah and hate figure.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #116
With Shipley I've got a feeling he's not a 'natural' athlete insofar as he looks knackered very quickly. Plus he seems to lose condition when not playing regularly. Could be a blood oxygen/red blood cell thing that is fine for the average person but far from ideal for elite sport. Plus I believe he has asthma which won't help and with Covid around those things aren't going to help.
 

larry_david

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #117
I started this thread, I remember when he signed a new deal last summer I was buzzing. I thought he could step up, tactically, physically, talent wise he can. It's his mental side I think. Bottling tackles, passing back constantly, never taking a forward approach. This is the biggest pre season of his career.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #118
rob9872 said:
You're right he's a striker who cost us £1m and scored 1 in 5 but is seen as the messiah
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Even scoring 1 in 5 he’s been better than Shipley who’s had a good 30 minutes all season
 

Old Warwickshire lad

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #119
clint van damme said:
The thing is the player has to show some signs that he's got something that can be worked on and im not sure Shipley has at this level.
Would be delighted to be proven wrong.
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I think most of us would. Could save us a lot of money as well.
 

Adge

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #120
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
With Shipley I've got a feeling he's not a 'natural' athlete insofar as he looks knackered very quickly. Plus he seems to lose condition when not playing regularly. Could be a blood oxygen/red blood cell thing that is fine for the average person but far from ideal for elite sport. Plus I believe he has asthma which won't help and with Covid around those things aren't going to help.
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Not really-just too much boozing.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #121
Adge said:
Not really-just too much boozing.
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this isn't the first time that's been mentioned, is it true or just a rumour?
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #122
clint van damme said:
this isn't the first time that's been mentioned, is it true or just a rumour?
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Ask @rob9872 he drinks with him
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #123
Tommo1993 said:
Out of Shipley, Baka, Allen, Jobello, Kastaneer, I’d keep Shipley in a heartbeat and kick out the actual deadwood.
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This is partly the point - Allen is alot more productive than Shipley, but as always its alright to call out some players but not others. Baka has recieved much more stick than Shipley but atleast he pays no attention to it, and doesnt give it the big one when he gets his 1 goal in a season.
 

HerneBayGaz

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #124
Legia Sky Blue said:
The faux outrage at Shipley's goal celebration is hilarious considering the dog's abuse he's received on here. So many delicate hypocritical souls who are happy to dish it out without being able to take a pretty tame response. It wasn't as if he got his dick out and said suck on this
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He maybe was going to get his dick out. But realised his mum watching the game.
 
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rob9872

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #125
clint van damme said:
this isn't the first time that's been mentioned, is it true or just a rumour?
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Gets mentioned on here and taken as fact after a tongue in cheek interview quote from Ben Wilson. He very rarely drinks, certainly not near games and never pints, but it's another stick to beat him with so often gets regurgitated on here.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #126
Skyblue_CP said:
This is partly the point - Allen is alot more productive than Shipley, but as always its alright to call out some players but not others. Baka has recieved much more stick than Shipley but atleast he pays no attention to it, and doesnt give it the big one when he gets his 1 goal in a season.
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The point entirely is Shipley at his best offers more than the listed names.
 
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Adge

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #127
rob9872 said:
Gets mentioned on here and taken as fact after a tongue in cheek interview quote from Ben Wilson. He very rarely drinks, certainly not near games and never pints, but it's another stick to beat him with so often gets regurgitated on here.
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Mmmm-if only you knew.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #128
clint van damme said:
this isn't the first time that's been mentioned, is it true or just a rumour?
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One thing I can say is that alcohol will 'thin' the blood. Which will have the same effect as I was describing.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #129
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
One thing I can say is that alcohol will 'thin' the blood. Which will have the same effect as I was describing.
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mate, I can cane it all weekend and still pull off a Cruyffesque performance at 5 a side on a Monday.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #130
clint van damme said:
mate, I can cane it all weekend and still pull off a Cruyffesque performance at 5 a side on a Monday.
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I stand corrected!

In seriousness though it's hardly the same level is it? Plus I used to be able to play 5-a-side running about all day but 10 mins and 1 sprint into 11-a-side I was fucked.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #131
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I stand corrected!

In seriousness though it's hardly the same level is it? Plus I used to be able to play 5-a-side running about all day but 10 mins and 1 sprint into 11-a-side I was fucked.
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last time I played 11 a side if I was a horse they'd have shot me on the side of the pitch to put me out of my misery.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #132
Adge said:
Mmmm-if only you knew.
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Some allegation that Adge!
 

Grendel

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #133
DannyThomas_1981 said:
I've met Shippers and he's a super nice lad - no arrogance at all.
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Which pub was that in?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 2, 2021
  • #134
I don't care about his celebration, and I'm happy for him that he scored, but he should be nowhere near the team next season.

Wish him all the best, but we cannot carry players like him. A lot of his performances this season have been pathetic, which is a shame because it tints the view on how much he helped us in previous seasons.

Hopefully he can get a decent league 1 club.
 
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rexo87

Well-Known Member
  • May 2, 2021
  • #135
He is a good player in a bit of space. Can see a pass and has a great strike on him. Problem is in this league you probably get about 2 games a season where you’re attacking midfielder gets any sort of space. Not got it mentally or physically to make it at this level unfortunately


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pipkin73

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  • May 3, 2021
  • #136
I like Shipley and i think he loves the club. The only game i've missed this season was the Huddersfield one (well mised the first 45 mins and hung over watching the other 45 (friend payed for a night out (got his first Covid payment after 14 months)) and i don't remember getting home lol).
Shippers can score goals for us but seems to tire easily, but from what i remember MR said, tells him to give his all as he will take him off after 60 mins (does a lot off the ball us mere mortals don't see). I can't see MR keeping or using a player that wont try, is lazy etc, so i think it's more deep rooted than that. Sort out his energy levels and i think he could be a great player for us, if they stay sadly low then i think he will have an average league 1 career.
MR does keep picking him though so i think they think they can sort it, this season won't have helped with all the Covid restrictions etc...
Shippers needs a big season for us next season or his contract won't be renewed, he will know that more than anyone.
This season is over now, so give the guy a break and let's just see how he comes back next season as unless someone offers us silly money i can't see him going anywhere, we have enough players to replace and improve on, without getting rid of him.
4 loan palyers before we even think about improving the players we have.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • May 3, 2021
  • #137
Who cares about celebrations and how much they drink? Score goals and play well and it’s all irrelevant
 
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Garryb80

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  • May 3, 2021
  • #138
Tommo1993 said:
GOOD. Even if it’s just to get on people’s nerves.
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I hope then you won't complain at our limited budget being misused considering you are advocating wasting wages
 

cc84cov

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  • May 3, 2021
  • #139
Even after he scored he was crap he’s awful to watch
 

Adge

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  • May 3, 2021
  • #140
Boosh said:
Who cares about celebrations and how much they drink? Score goals and play well and it’s all irrelevant
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Yep-that being the point though, he hasn’t been.
 
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