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The Rebuild- Around Hamer and Sheaf (2 Viewers)

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Londonccfcfan

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #1
At all costs keep Hamer. Re build promotion charge around him.

Ohare and Palmer to come back. Midfield will go from strength to strength.

Eccles kelly and Allen back is good enough.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #2
I think Hamer will be off personally but would be thrilled if we can keep him. Replacing Gyokeres is a huge task, him and Hamer would be seriously challenging
 
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theferret

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #3
Keep Hamer? If that lad has any sort of ambition he makes a move to a higher level while his stock is high. It's not really our choice. Would be amazed if he starts the season with us.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #4
We need to keep at all costs one or the other.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #5
Hamer is off. I know so. It's not opinion, it's solid 100% fact.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #6
It's not fact till it happens.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #7
Do we have a list of who is out of contract?

I do think this team has taken us as far as we can.
Much like in 2019, we need a new team to take us to the next level
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #8
theferret said:
Keep Hamer? If that lad has any sort of ambition he makes a move to a higher level while his stock is high. It's not really our choice. Would be amazed if he starts the season with us.
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Actually he's under contract so it technically is our choice. But I agree with what you're saying, he deserves to move on a test himself above or wherever he wants to go.

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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #9
Londonccfcfan said:
It's not fact till it happens.
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Keep the faith

I'd have thought that Robins will have a plan for a replacement for Gyokores and Hamer and also a plan for just replacing Gyokeres if there's been any suggestion that Hamer might be open to staying. It'll be interesting to see if we dip into the european market again for a significant sum.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #10
Absolutely no way we keep Gus sadly.

We also have no idea how Palmer and O’Hare will be fitness wise (and let’s be honest in O’Hares case quality wise) next season.

I think it’s time for a change of system TBH, bring in a CB pairing and a RB and go 4231, get a couple of pacy players and a decent striker and hope one of O’Hare and Palmer is fit to fill the number 10 role.

Though I suspect it’ll be the other way around and well bring in players then spend the first quarter of the season working out how to best play them. And that’s fine too.
 
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Samo

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #11
Hamer and Vik are both off, lets face facts.
It doesn't have to be the end of the world, a few years ago we'd heard of neither of them.
If a good chunk of the money is reinvested in the team, I'm fine with it.
 
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its a buzzard

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #12
Londonccfcfan said:
It's not fact till it happens.
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It's happening.

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SkyBlueSoul

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #13
Gus and Vik are going and will hopefully bring in £20-30m between them, this is all just part of the process and we have to trust it.

In my opinion we'll bring in young, hungry players as per usual but probably of a higher initial quality than previously, possibly for £2-4m rather than ~£1m. We're also still a very attractive proposition for potential PL loans from top clubs. There'll be a bedding in period next season but we'll end up with a stronger all round squad and consolidate as a top 8 team who are in and around the play-offs come the end of the season. That being said it's a new recruitment team so although I'm willing to trust them, we've no idea what their strike rate will be like.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #14
I'd like to see us move Allen and Godden on if we want to progress forward, too weak.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #15
Gynnsthetonic said:
I'd like to see us move Allen and Godden on if we want to progress forward, too weak.
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I don’t think there’s any harm having them around as squad players the last year of their contract TBH, and they provide more consistency in the squad since promotion and the Robins ethos.

We need depth next year, that’s what made the difference for Luton this season, I’d rather have Godden when I’m down to the bones than Tavares, as and much stick as I give him Allen has chipped in with goals this season. I wouldn’t necessarily expect them to be in the first 18, but worth keeping IMO.
 
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slowpoke

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #16
Gynnsthetonic said:
I'd like to see us move Allen and Godden on if we want to progress forward, too weak.
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But we need a stronger bench likely they will become bench warmers but they do give options off the bench to change tact if needed.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #17
slowpoke said:
But we need a stronger bench likely they will become bench warmers but they do give options off the bench to change tact if needed.
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Agree, we need more strength in depth, the substitute options have been very limited at times
 

SleepyGinger

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #18
I’m excited for next season. You’d expect around £30m for Hamer and Gyokeres, a lot of wages freed up with Waghorn, Walker etc contracts expiring and a decent pay day for yesterday.
 

mark82

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #19
If we lose Hamer we need to be able to bring someone in who is at least as good if not better. If the fee is significantly under £10m I'd be tempted to make him play out the final year of his contract. He's the one player who can pretty much single handedly make us a challenger.
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #20
I’m actually excited to see how we line up first game of the season.

Sheaf, McNally, Wilson (?!), Fadz (ish), Palmer, COH, Eccles - all good enough to be part of a promotion winning squad.

Few solid players and two/three special players to replace Hamer/Vik and we’re in for another good season.

It’s a big summer re-build and we’re in a decent place in terms of stability, reputation and hopefully a good budget from the sales.

And of course we’ve seen MR/AV successfully transform us before.

Yesterday was an absolutely shit ending and an opportunity missed, but keep the faith.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #21
mark82 said:
If we lose Hamer we need to be able to bring someone in who is at least as good if not better. If the fee is significantly under £10m I'd be tempted to make him play out the final year of his contract. He's the one player who can pretty much single handedly make us a challenger.
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Worth a gamble on “one last shot at the Prem and if we don’t make it you’re free to go?”
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #22
I suspect the player well most need to “replace” will be Fadz. But I say that every season so god knows
 
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SKYBLUES90

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #23
Hamer will be gone, tbh he would have been off even if we had gone up. He has been an absolute pleasure to watch this season, especially the last few months.

Sell him for any less than 10 mil and we’ve had our pants down.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #24
Where do we think Hamer ends up?
 

shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #25
SleepyGinger said:
Where do we think Hamer ends up?
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Europe maybe.
 
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shepardo01

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #26
mark82 said:
If we lose Hamer we need to be able to bring someone in who is at least as good if not better. If the fee is significantly under £10m I'd be tempted to make him play out the final year of his contract. He's the one player who can pretty much single handedly make us a challenger.
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Don't actually think that is possible for a club like us (financially).
We almost need two players to replace him - one defensive player with his energy and tenacity (massive part of our defensive record) and another with the vision, skill, drive and technical ability to drive our attacks and unlock defenses. (11 goals 10 assists)
The beauty of Hamer is that he does all of the above - and only takes up one name on the team sheet...
That is how good he is....
 
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theferret

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #27
SKYBLUES90 said:
Hamer will be gone, tbh he would have been off even if we had gone up. He has been an absolute pleasure to watch this season, especially the last few months.

Sell him for any less than 10 mil and we’ve had our pants down.
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Anything less than 15 million is a crime imo.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #28
shmmeee said:
Europe maybe.
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then he will stay and leave for free
 

Paxman II

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #29
Sign McNally. Hamer and Vik will likely be sold. Allen, Godden, Walker, Dabo, Moore and a few others can leave imo. Replacements and top loans similar to what we had in Doyle and Cuffy will work well. Spend well and we can attain promotion. I'd keep Faz another year as he works towards a coaching role.
 
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Essexrobbie

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #30
We are going to have a very different side next year that's for sure. I hope Robins spends his money well and finds another Hamer and Vik, down the back of someones sofa, otherwise I can see a long hard season ahead.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #31
I’d like Keinan Davis. Got a somewhat similar profile to Vik albeit not as good.
 

Garlana86

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #32
Can we just pinch whatever players Burnley, sheff united and Luton get rid of?
 
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Major Tom

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #33
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I think Hamer will be off personally but would be thrilled if we can keep him. Replacing Gyokeres is a huge task, him and Hamer would be seriously challenging
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I think Harmer will be a lot harder to replace than Vic
Great business and development at c. £1m each, it’s where we as a club and we could be banking £30m for the pair. That should land us 4 or 5 top championship players and strengthen the bench.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #34
theferret said:
Anything less than 15 million is a crime imo.
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Year left on his contract diminishes his contract
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • May 28, 2023
  • #35
Londonccfcfan said:
Year left on his contract diminishes his contract
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Correction meant to say diminishes his real value
 
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