Don't try and compare it to the men's game as it's like chalk and cheese
It really is, I think that's in part because of the TV deal and the desperation to make it work.
You put Sky on and they are going on about big Derby matches, sky sports news giving it the "Man City sign new striker" and all that. They want the merge the 2.
Or maybe they're giving it a chance to grow further so it inspires others in the future to take up the sport?
The womens team that are the “best team on the planet” according to attendance websites attract about as many fans as Morecombe
I can see that you are a big advocate of women´s football, and that´s great. I used to go and watch Koppaberg´s FC in Sweden when I lived there many years ago. It was really enjoyable and the ability to (unsurprisingly) take Koppabergs into your seat was lovely.
I must say though, I do agree with some of the other comments people are raising. Whilst the awareness and coverage is enhancing, which I support, there is a certain amount of ´over-correcting´ going on, which I think can put people off to a degree. If you want more people to go and support it, I am not always sure that this method is the right way to go. See politics, vaccine drive, etc etc.
I am all for the support of the women´s game, but it is different to what we would watch on a Saturday down the CBS, and whilst I have no doubts the quality will improve, there will be a difference. I would be very happy to see a proper CCFC women´s team, and some sort of concessions and discount to season ticket holders to go and watch etc. That could be a really nice way to bridge the gap. I can understand however, why people get annoyed when links and such are posted with ´get your tickets to the Euro 2022 tournament´, followed by (women´s) in the small print of brackets whatever.
Just my view of course.
My daughter did a training video for the FA and blue peter with Phil Foden , Gallagher and Smith Rowe last week
I think it would have been better if the teams grew more automatically as opposed to being appendages of the mens teams.
Arsenal ladies don't trace their heritage back to Woolwich Arsenal.
If Arsenal wanted a woman's team they could have starting like Islington WFC or something then it might have been more interesting.
I understand why they did it as it is trying to encourage the supporters of those mens team to take an interest in the women side but completely fresh teams may have had people looking at it form a different angle.
It's financial more than anything as well LG. It's no secret that 2nd tier womens teams like Lewes and Durham, find it harder than the other teams because they're not afiliated to a mens club. Same with Cov Utd Ladies as well who aren't linked to the mens club.
Like I said, it's no longer classed as women's football. It's not Liverpool ladies etc.
Watch something like SoccerAM and they are desperate to shoehorn a woman footballer in every week. Then you can see how cringey it is.
C'mon Nick. As a father of a daughter, why is your media consumption of football really an issue? So what if they try and shoehorn a female footballer on every week? Why shouldn't they?
Not sure being linked to the Men's Cov Utd Ladies would make much difference.
Because it's shite and forced.
Having a daughter is nothing to do with it.
I mean, it would.
How? I get it with a club like Man City funding. Cov Utd though?
The thing that irritates me about the women's game too is that instead of coming up with something that might be genuinely competitive, it has just adopted the same competition structure of the contemporary men's game.
Oh look, it's Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal as top 4. How exciting!!
If Cov Utd Ladies were Cov City Woman FC and affiliated to the club, they'd likely train at Ryton or a better facility than they currently have, they'd have better access to coaching, the club would likely give them an amount of money to spend on accommodation, they'd likely have more money for bringing better players in etc. They'd also be on the Cov City website where their fixtures would be promoted to a wider audience than their own website which likely gets 100 times less traffic than ccfc.co.uk
Any mens club that has a womens team, has a budget set aside for those womans teams - and the budgets, even outside of the top 4, are growing. Those are aren't afiliated to a club - Cov Utd, Lewes and Durham, have to self fund themselves rather than have the support of established mens teams.
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Yeah but Cov Utd aren't Coventry City.
Yeah but Cov Utd aren't Coventry City.
I can't really answer what the ideal structure would be but just something different would be good.Fair point - but what would your structure be? In most mens leagues in Europe, you get dominance of a few teams - England (City, Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal), Spain (Barca, A.Madrid, R.Madrid), France (PSG, Marseille), Germany (Bayern Munich, B.Dortmund), Italy (Juve, Milans).
What's the answer or structure?
No disproportionate TV deals for top leagues, the one for the WSL gives 75% revenue to top flight and 25% to second tier.Fair point - but what would your structure be? In most mens leagues in Europe, you get dominance of a few teams - England (City, Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal), Spain (Barca, A.Madrid, R.Madrid), France (PSG, Marseille), Germany (Bayern Munich, B.Dortmund), Italy (Juve, Milans).
What's the answer or structure?
Rugby are just the same.No disproportionate TV deals for top leagues, the one for the WSL gives 75% revenue to top flight and 25% to second tier.
How have they looked at the men's game and thought we'll replicate that? Unless it's literally the same executives making the same decisions.
To exacerbate that the Champions League further entrenches it by paying big prize money to qualifiers and achievers (who happen to be the teams that are already well backed) and solidarity payments to other top flight teams.
I certainly wouldn’t want ccfc wasting money on this in truth
Of course you wouldn't G...
I certainly wouldn’t want ccfc wasting money on this in truth
would you?
I said how would cov utd ladies benefit from cov utd men's?Erm, thats what I'm saying??
Yes. If my club could afford it, then absolutely. The % clubs spend on their womens teams is a fraction of overall turnover.
So long as it didn't compromise the team I grew up supporting, why wouldn't I??
I said how would cov utd ladies benefit from cov utd men's?
well by definition could afford it means it could be spent on the team people actually support so why would you? It’s money not going to that team. Why is that sensible?
Ah apologies - I misunderstood.
I obviously meant attached to a well established mens team - like a professional EFL/EPL club. Lewes Women are attached to Lewes Men. They find it harder than womens teams associated to pro EFL/EPL teams.
of course and premier league teams do
It as it makes them look as if they are considering the female game and wouldn’t want negative publicity
Yeah so basically they need to be linked to a big club who can afford to throw loads of money at them.Ah apologies - I misunderstood.
I obviously meant attached to a well established mens team - like a professional EFL/EPL club. Lewes Women are attached to Lewes Men. They find it harder than womens teams associated to pro EFL/EPL teams.
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