THE PROTEST EFFECT - Did it really make a difference ??? (1 Viewer)

johnniericoh · Aug 31, 2014

Well folks the dust has settled - we are back at the Ricoh - the fans are in a frenzy - expectations are high and people now have smiley faces.

Many of my cynical friends/family etc openly criticised me personally during the last 12 months stating that all the silly marches/banners/petitions etc would not sway the dreaded SISU movement arriving at a "return to the Ricoh" agreement.

I strongly beg to differ - but let us look at the facts:

* numerous fans forums
* two memorable 7,000+ fan marches into Broadgate
* Jimmy's Hill stand off at sixfields
* 90% fan boycott of Sixfields
* SISU London offices fan representation
* CET encouragement
* excellent pressure/organisation from Sk Blues Trust
* constant rapport and support from our Sky Blues Talk forum
* individual fan support through our local paper

There are more obviously

So the question is did all of this really play a significant part in the "final solution" or would it still have happened had we remained belly up with just token resistance ???

Thoughts ???

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Aug 31, 2014

johnniericoh said:
Well folks the dust has settled - we are back at the Ricoh - the fans are in a frenzy - expectations are high and people now have smiley faces.

Many of my cynical friends/family etc openly criticised me personally during the last 12 months stating that all the silly marches/banners/petitions etc would not sway the dreaded SISU movement arriving at a "return to the Ricoh" agreement.

I strongly beg to differ - but let us look at the facts:

* numerous fans forums
* two memorable 7,000+ fan marches into Broadgate
* Jimmy's Hill stand off at sixfields
* 90% fan boycott of Sixfields
* SISU London offices fan representation
* CET encouragement
* excellent pressure/organisation from Sk Blues Trust
* constant rapport and support from our Sky Blues Talk forum
* individual fan support through our local paper

There are more obviously

So the question is did all of this really play a significant part in the "final solution" or would it still have happened had we remained belly up with just token resistance ???

Thoughts ???

Yes, But its not over yet.

Grendel · Aug 31, 2014

Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

Otis · Aug 31, 2014

To be quite honest I've stopped thinking about it and am just glad we are home.

It was very wrong to take the club 34 miles away, but now we are back and I feel it is time to look forwards rather than backwards.

Jim · Aug 31, 2014

The fact that our average gate at Sixfields was below Tim Fishers worst expectations must have affected the decision making at SISU.

AndreasB · Aug 31, 2014

What was the "Jimmys Hill stand off" ?

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Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

Why don't you for once answer the question?

No future with SISU · Aug 31, 2014

The fans not going to Sixfields (except the few) had a big effect on SISU but loseing the JR was the end game. ACL signing up other teams to play there may have had a effect on sisu as well.

johnniericoh · Aug 31, 2014

AndreasB said:
What was the "Jimmys Hill stand off" ?

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The token few who occupied the Hill (fondly called jimmy's Hill) whilst not actually going into the ground itself thus upholding NOPM

No future with SISU · Aug 31, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Why don't you for once answer the question?

Grendel will never answer that question as all along he said NOPM will not work as sisu had loads of money.Once again he has been proved wrong.

Seaside-Skyblue · Aug 31, 2014

I think that the underlying low attendance at sixfields was the underlying reason why we eventually came back. However, the protests etc helped support this in the fact it proved that we did in fact have more back bone than a jelly baby and we were not going to cave In and flock back to watch the team. It helped portray to SISU how strong we were collectively. Had they seen numbers gradually increase we may not have come back. So overall IMO every boycott and protest followed by court rulings all played their part.

Kingokings204 · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

With comments like this make it hard to believe you have ccfc best interests at heart. It seems to just be a jibe at our current situation or fans.

We all know it won't be a sell out like Friday and what does this mean then?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Aug 31, 2014

Kingokings204 said:
With comments like this make it hard to believe you have ccfc best interests at heart. It seems to just be a jibe at our current situation or fans.

We all know it won't be a sell out like Friday and what does this mean then?

We should have stayed in Northampton

Kingokings204 · Aug 31, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
We should have stayed in Northampton

Grendel obviously has an issue against ccfc or the council or the Ricoh he will never admit it. He never answers the question and he was proved completely wrong about Northampton as a pervious poster said.

5k at the Ricoh is better than sixfields ever was.

My opinion every thing had a little effect and these little things built up to all make a difference. 90% who had a nopm choice definitely made a difference despite many stating it would bother sisu as they have loads of money. Sorry but you were proved wrong.

italiahorse · Aug 31, 2014

I don't care what other people think. I believe I made a difference.
I stand proud that I managed not to be part of the Sisu plan to remove the club from the Ricoh in a selfish attempt to get the stadium on the cheap.
I appreciate that some needed to go and I will try my hardest not to bear a grudge

Grendel · Aug 31, 2014

Kingokings204 said:
With comments like this make it hard to believe you have ccfc best interests at heart. It seems to just be a jibe at our current situation or fans.

We all know it won't be a sell out like Friday and what does this mean then?

How does the OP thread have the best interests at heart?

AndreasB · Aug 31, 2014

johnniericoh said:
The token few who occupied the Hill (fondly called jimmy's Hill) whilst not actually going into the ground itself thus upholding NOPM

So no actual stand off then?

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Grendel · Aug 31, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Why don't you for once answer the question?

It made fuck all difference. Question answered.

Kingokings204 · Aug 31, 2014

italiahorse said:
I don't care what other people think. I believe I made a difference.
I stand proud that I managed not to be part of the Sisu plan to remove the club from the Ricoh in a selfish attempt to get the stadium on the cheap.
I appreciate that some needed to go and I will try my hardest not to bear a grudge

Completely agree. I'm not very proud about myself generally but I am very proud to not of stepped in sixfields and contribute to the death of ccfc.

Kingokings204 · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
It made fuck all difference. Question answered.

Why have sisu come crawling back in your opinion then?

Grendel · Aug 31, 2014

Kingokings204 said:
Grendel obviously has an issue against ccfc or the council or the Ricoh he will never admit it. He never answers the question and he was proved completely wrong about Northampton as a pervious poster said.

5k at the Ricoh is better than sixfields ever was.

My opinion every thing had a little effect and these little things built up to all make a difference. 90% who had a nopm choice definitely made a difference despite many stating it would bother sisu as they have loads of money. Sorry but you were proved wrong.

Didn't you say the club would be proved wrong by not signing Higdon for £250,000?

skybluetony176 · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

And that statement has "what" to do with the question in the OP?

AndreasB · Aug 31, 2014

Kingokings204 said:
Completely agree. I'm not very proud about myself generally but I am very proud to not of stepped in sixfields and contribute to the death of ccfc.

Why, what else ya been up to then? Is it worse shit than watching a football game?

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skybluetony176 · Aug 31, 2014

In answer to the OP, the fan's protests were clearly more effective than SISU's attempts to distress ACL. Hence, we're back at the Ricoh, which is what we wanted. ACL are still running the show at the Ricoh, which isn't (as pointed out by a Judge) what SISU wanted.

Otis · Aug 31, 2014

And yet another slinging match ensues .... yawn.

We really need to move on here. What we need right now are bums on seats at the Ricoh and not just this Friday but from now on in. What's the point of keep going over the same old ground ad infinitum?

AndreasB · Aug 31, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
In answer to the OP, the fan's protests were clearly more effective than SISU's attempts to distress ACL. Hence, we're back at the Ricoh, which is what we wanted. ACL are still running the show at the Ricoh, which isn't (as pointed out by a Judge) what SISU wanted.

Agree. It's a good result which even a month ago looked impossible.

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Sky Blue Harry H · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

Not sure how this is a response to the OP's question - or are you just pointing out we will have lower crowds at an unattractive match - albeit the numbers will be swelled by 5,000 of Gary McSheffrey's family

skybluetony176 · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Didn't you say the club would be proved wrong by not signing Higdon for £250,000?

Didn't you say that losing the JR was always plan A so they could continue to distress ACL through further court action on CCC.

Coming back seems to blow your theory out the water doesn't it.

bigfatronssba · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Let's see how many go to Scunthorpe at home on a feb evening then we will know.

It will be about twice as many as most teams in this division would and that's what counts.

italiahorse · Aug 31, 2014

Otis said:
And yet another slinging match ensues .... yawn.

We really need to move on here. What we need right now are bums on seats at the Ricoh and not just this Friday but from now on in. What's the point of keep going over the same old ground ad infinitum?

To stop it from happening again ?
To make it clear that if fans stick together they can fight bully boys like Sisu ?

Grendel · Aug 31, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
Didn't you say that losing the JR was always plan A so they could continue to distress ACL through further court action on CCC.

Coming back seems to blow your theory out the water doesn't it.

Oh I wouldn't assume this is over yet if I were you.

Jack Griffin · Aug 31, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
It will be about twice as many as most teams in this division would and that's what counts.

Selling 15K tickets (and maybe more in a few days) is what counts.. that is the equivalent of 5 or 6 matches at Sixfields.

ccfc92 · Aug 31, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
Selling 15K tickets (and maybe more in a few days) is what counts.. that is the equivalent of 5 or 6 matches at Sixfields.

Depends on how many of them were actually bought

ccfc92 · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Oh I wouldn't assume this is over yet if I were you.

Has the JR appeal been dropped since the return announcement? Genuine question, haven't heard anything about the JR since last Thursday.

skybluenormski · Aug 31, 2014

All these factors, plus SISU's bad publicity would have hurt investors. but most of all THE FANS, !!! Makes it all worth while. i

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