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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (13 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,356
skybluetony176 said:
They haven’t then. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Grow up and read it.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,357
SkyBlueDom26 said:
0% chance of us not leaving, next week is massive
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Tell that to the MP's who don't want us to leave especially without a deal.

It is nowhere near as simple as you make it out to be. We don't want to leave without a deal. The EU doesn't want us to leave without a deal. They are still trying their best to keep us in the EU.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,358
Brexit: 90% say handling of negotiations is 'national humiliation' - Sky Data poll

something 90% on here can agree with regardless of standpoint. surprised the Govt gets away with as little as 34% of the outright blame
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,359
Trump still wading in. if he had his way we'd need still Polish builders to build a wall across the South coast anyway
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,360
May Statement at 8

Hopefully she resigns
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,361
SkyBlueDom26 said:
May Statement at 8

Hopefully she resigns
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nope. blackmailing her deal through.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,362
Astute said:
Remaining getting more likely. Looks like the plan is coming together.

No deal off the table.
No deal not allowed this month.
No extension until June.
No long term extension.

And what do you think the EU will say?

Leave without a deal or remain.

They can now as no deal this month is off the table.
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You called it if so. I just think it’s crazy to vote for something that’s impossible and then moan about being let down
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,363
Sky Blue Pete said:
You called it if so. I just think it’s crazy to vote for something that’s impossible and then moan about being let down
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No deal is very much not off the table
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,364
Astute said:
Grow up and read it.
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If you’re talking about this one What is DUP's Brexit talks hope? then yes, I did read it. It says and I quote “It is pro-union (UK, not Europe), pro-Brexit and socially conservative.”

Did you read it?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,365
tisza said:
nope. blackmailing her deal through.
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Big game of poker, innit
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,366
tisza said:
Brexit: 90% say handling of negotiations is 'national humiliation' - Sky Data poll

something 90% on here can agree with regardless of standpoint. surprised the Govt gets away with as little as 34% of the outright blame
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Not sure. About 50% on here thinks it’s the EU’s fault
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,367
Astute said:
Remaining getting more likely. Looks like the plan is coming together.

No deal off the table.
No deal not allowed this month.
No extension until June.
No long term extension.

And what do you think the EU will say?

Leave without a deal or remain.

They can now as no deal this month is off the table.
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No deal isn't off the table though technically
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,368
Grendel said:
No deal is very much not off the table
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Agreed but, it's being used as the bargaining chip in a way few expected (or hoped).
fernandopartridge said:
No deal isn't off the table though technically
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The big question is how it goes if it ends up no deal or revoke Article 50.

Anyway, May's tactics are rather SISU-esque!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,369
fernandopartridge said:
No deal isn't off the table though technically
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Correct. It legally isn't off the table. But the referendum wasn't legally binding either.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,370
Sky Blue Pete said:
You called it if so. I just think it’s crazy to vote for something that’s impossible and then moan about being let down
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Mays so called deal wasn't impossible. But as I have said countless times before remainers were not happy as it meant leaving still and leavers were not happy as it meant ties continuing with the EU.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,371
Deleted member 5849 said:
Big game of poker, innit
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Big game of poker where nobody has the winning hand.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,372
Deleted member 5849 said:
Anyway, May's tactics are rather SISU-esque!
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As long as we don't end up paying the EU's legal bill
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,373
From Independant's Chief Political commentator John Rentoul
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,374
skybluetony176 said:
If you’re talking about this one What is DUP's Brexit talks hope? then yes, I did read it. It says and I quote “It is pro-union (UK, not Europe), pro-Brexit and socially conservative.”

Did you read it?
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And as usual you pick out just a few words. How about the paragraph just underneath the bit you put up?

But ultimately, what does the party want from Brexit? First of all, the DUP has said it still wants the UK to leave the EU with a deal - but it must be one that treats Northern Ireland no differently from the rest of the UK.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,375
Astute said:
Correct. It legally isn't off the table. But the referendum wasn't legally binding either.
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There will only be a short delay if the EU agrees to it, and that means parliament agreeing to May’s deal.

Personally I expect it to now pass.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,376
Sick Boy said:
There will only be a short delay if the EU agrees to it, and that means parliament agreeing to May’s deal.

Personally I expect it to now pass.
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So how has it changed enough for Bercow to allow there to be another vote on the May deal?

For the last couple of days he was supposed to have called it correctly. If he has called it correctly he won't allow another vote on the May/EU deal. All that has changed is the circumstances. And his statement was the actual wording and content had to change. And change considerably.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,377
The latest is that May is going to propose vote 3 of her deal as leave with her deal or leave without a deal. And she is supposed to be making a statement to the public at 20:15.

Still don't think it will happen.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,378
Astute said:
And as usual you pick out just a few words. How about the paragraph just underneath the bit you put up?

But ultimately, what does the party want from Brexit? First of all, the DUP has said it still wants the UK to leave the EU with a deal - but it must be one that treats Northern Ireland no differently from the rest of the UK.
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Yes. I read that part too but as it again confirms that the DUP is still a brexit Party I didn’t want to post more than I already did and embarrass you further.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

Guest
  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,379
Told you all last night to get your money on no deal @ 7/2 it will happen!!!2/1 now all the money on betting sites is for no deal.
They will batter it down to odds on after the weekend so get on now!!!
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,380
Astute said:
So how has it changed enough for Bercow to allow there to be another vote on the May deal?

For the last couple of days he was supposed to have called it correctly. If he has called it correctly he won't allow another vote on the May/EU deal. All that has changed is the circumstances. And his statement was the actual wording and content had to change. And change considerably.
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Or.....she can show that it has a good chance of being passed.
 

tisza

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,381
so corbyn walks out of multi-party talks because 2 independent MPs there?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,382
tisza said:
so corbyn walks out of multi-party talks because 2 independent MPs there?
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He's lost my vote if so.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,383
All of this astonishing.

 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,384
Deleted member 5849 said:
All of this astonishing.

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So is it that surprising he left when the ‘meeting’ was just her regurgitating the same stuff as before.

Plus Chuka represents a private company ATM.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,385
Ian1779 said:
So is it that surprising he left when the ‘meeting’ was just her regurgitating the same stuff as before.

Plus Chuka represents a private company ATM.
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Well he never gave himself a chance to show a united front against May's deal, and a united front for co-operation and discussion, in opposition to dogmatism.

Instead, he shows himself as petty and small-minded.

When we're crying out for an alternative to a one-eyed PM who shows no flexibility whatsoever, he throws away the opportunity to show himself as a credible alternative, able to work to find a consensus.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,386
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well he never gave himself a chance to show a united front against May's deal, and a united front for co-operation and discussion, in opposition to dogmatism.

Instead, he shows himself as petty and small-minded.

When we're crying out for an alternative to a one-eyed PM who shows no flexibility whatsoever, he throws away the opportunity to show himself as a credible alternative, able to work to find a consensus.
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His whole principal is hard brexit and he and McDonnell are hoping it happens and then enter government with a country not allied to a federal state
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,387
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well he never gave himself a chance to show a united front against May's deal, and a united front for co-operation and discussion, in opposition to dogmatism.

Instead, he shows himself as petty and small-minded.

When we're crying out for an alternative to a one-eyed PM who shows no flexibility whatsoever, he throws away the opportunity to show himself as a credible alternative, able to work to find a consensus.
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TBF - I don’t think him walking out was the wisest idea, and I don’t disagree how it looks.

There is no way he would ever be given the opportunity through that meeting to ‘show’ himself as an alternative. May wouldn’t allow it, the press wouldn’t allow it. And you know this is true.
 

tisza

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,388
Ian1779 said:
So is it that surprising he left when the ‘meeting’ was just her regurgitating the same stuff as before.

Plus Chuka represents a private company ATM.
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Because even if it's only one chance you have to take it.
Others stayed.
No different from May - it's only my way that counts. He's still saying back my deal and I'll take you out or I'll back a referendum that may keep you in.
She's still saying it's her deal and nothing else.
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,389
tisza said:
Because even if it's only one chance you have to take it.
Others stayed.
No different from May - it's only my way that counts. He's still saying back my deal and I'll take you out or I'll back a referendum that may keep you in.
She's still saying it's her deal and nothing else.
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Again - I would have advised he stayed.

But if she won’t budge... there is no parliamentary consensus for any outcome at all. Her deal, no deal, no Brexit... not one could get through parliament at the moment.

The choice may end up out of our hands.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 20, 2019
  • #33,390
Ian1779 said:
there is no parliamentary consensus for any outcome at all.
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And never will be if people don't talk to each other.

Take May out the equation, the rest need to come up with an alternative, and fast. Otherwise we sleepwalk into May's deal.

Sometimes, you have to choose who's your real enemy, which battles do you *need* to fight. If Corbyn's feels at this moment in time he needs to fight Umunna, then that's very, very worrying for the future, isn't it.
 
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