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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Nick

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,876
Liquid Gold said:
Just make a note of who's stockpiled. Go round there if it all goes to shit.
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I am just expecting to wake up and the whole world has changed and there's no cars on the road. I am going to go looting don't worry.

 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,877
Nick said:
Are people really going out to stock up on food?

‘Hamster hoarders’ are stocking up on essentials in case of no deal Brexit

Terrified Brits build Brexit stockpiles of water, food and clothes



Attention seeking bellends. "Look at my stash of food"

People need to have a word with themselves. It isn't 28 days later or The Walking Dead.
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there could definitely be issues with food in the case of a no deal, (depending on our WTO schedule it could go the other way and we could be flooded with imported food).
Stocking up now is a bit over the top to say the least.
If there's one thing I don't think we'll have a shortage of in this country it's water, and as for clothes, how bad would it have to cause people to run out of clothes?!
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,878
clint van damme said:
there could definitely be issues with food in the case of a no deal, (depending on our WTO schedule it could go the other way and we could be flooded with imported food).
Stocking up now is a bit over the top to say the least.
If there's one thing I don't think we'll have a shortage of in this country it's water, and as for clothes, how bad would it have to cause people to run out of clothes?!
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All my clothes shrunk over christmas, especially around the midriff. Is this to do with brexit?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,879
Nick said:
So do I need to go and do a big shop or not? Should I get my daughter school uniform for the next 3 years and some clean pants just in case?
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You won’t go far wrong with clean pants whatever happens.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,880
Liquid Gold said:
All my clothes shrunk over christmas, especially around the midriff. Is this to do with brexit?
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could be, or it could be you're a greedy bastard.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,881
Liquid Gold said:
All my clothes shrunk over christmas, especially around the midriff. Is this to do with brexit?
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No, but if some predictions are right you may be a Brexit winner when they all fit you again.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,882
Sick Boy said:
What are you on about? It’s not the transitional period that gets discussed, they’re contingency plans for a no deal
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It is what will happen during the transitional period. But of course it will be something different to you.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,883
Astute said:
It is shocking how you continually make out there won't be a transitional period when I have shown you a fair few times there will be

EU reveals no-deal Brexit plans
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Your link: The Commission says these measures should not compare with EU membership, or the transition period on offer in the Withdrawal Agreement - which the UK Parliament has yet to vote on.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,884
Sick Boy said:
1. Where did I say it’d be ‘totally different’. Yet again you’ve made it up - I have continually said that it would be a way to compromise between the two sides, hence it not being ‘totally different’.

2. What would need to be checked? We’d be in the Single Market, eliminating the need for a hard border on the island of Ireland.
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1, When I said it would be the same as being in the EU you said it was different. You was also going to say why it was different. But still waiting.

2, Read the link you put up. It says about border checks as you can make your own trade deals. I thought you always read links you put up.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,885
What foods will there be a shortage of?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,886
martcov said:
Your link: The Commission says these measures should not compare with EU membership, or the transition period on offer in the Withdrawal Agreement - which the UK Parliament has yet to vote on.
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So what will change in the transitional period?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,887
Nick said:
What foods will there be a shortage of?
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Nothing. That is unless you listen to someone who wants you to believe that we will crash and burn though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,888
Nick said:
What foods will there be a shortage of?
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Bratwurst, Sauerkraut, Schnitzel
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,889
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bratwurst, Sauerkraut, Schnitzel
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It's OK will just have a chippy on a Tuesday instead.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,890
Astute said:
It is shocking how you continually make out there won't be a transitional period when I have shown you a fair few times there will be

EU reveals no-deal Brexit plans
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That’s a contingency plan not a transitional period.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,891
Sick Boy said:
1. Where did I say it’d be ‘totally different’. Yet again you’ve made it up - I have continually said that it would be a way to compromise between the two sides, hence it not being ‘totally different’.

2. What would need to be checked? We’d be in the Single Market, eliminating the need for a hard border on the island of Ireland.
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The example is the Sweden/Norway border. Free movement of people, cars are rarely stopped unless they trigger an NPR camera and goods lorries are stopped randomly but seldom by customs. It’s not some great unknown littered with issues and it solves the Northern Ireland border issue in one swoop.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,892
Astute said:
It is what will happen during the transitional period. But of course it will be something different to you.
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That’s because it is.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,893
Astute said:
It is what will happen during the transitional period. But of course it will be something different to you.
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No. It isn’t it says clearly that the measures will not be as good as having a transition period. Read your own links.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,894
Astute said:
So what will change in the transitional period?
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Little, but we lose that if it is no deal. Which is what you want and makes life more difficult, but not impossible. Another great Brexit benefit next to French made blue passports with less power, or a commemorative 50p for use in the toilets. And you say some people still think leave is better than staying. You really have been led up the garden path.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,895
martcov said:
No. It isn’t it says clearly that the measures will not be as good as having a transition period. Read your own links.
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So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,896
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bratwurst, Sauerkraut, Schnitzel
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I‘ll bring food packages when I come back in April. Plenty of Sauerkraut as it has vitamins to keep the scurvy at bay.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,897
Nick said:
What foods will there be a shortage of?
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when you set your WTO schedule you have to set it for all your trading partners.

Set it too high and it won't be worth foreign suppliers exporting, set it to low and we can be flooded with cheap imports and damage local production so it's a case of getting as balance.

That's one of the reasons why people do trade deals because they're a lot more flexible and only apply to the partner you've singed the deal with.

The government has already submitted one schedule , (which basically sets out your proposed tariffs), but it's been rejected. It only takes one other WTO member to say no and it's rejected though you can appeal but they can be costly and time consuming, I think there's one tariff dispute that's been going on for 20 years.
That's why the whole world spends a lot of time and money trying to get away from WTO schedules where possible and signing up to trading blocs and trade deals. The whole world apart from us, who are on the verge of throwing away membership of the worlds biggest trading bloc and the myriad of trade deals that gives us access to.

This is a bit of a simplified explanation of a very complicated issue but it's the best I can do!!
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,898
Astute said:
So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.
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No it doesn’t. It says if there is no deal certain things will be extended 9 months, 1 year or 2 years, but it will be nowhere near as good as if they accept the deal with a transition period. In other words only the essential things such as air travel, lorry licenses, and financial transactions with derivatives.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,899
Astute said:
So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.
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There will be no Transition Period in no deal. That is why they call it no deal. The transition period is dependent on a deal. It’s in the deal which will be rejected tonight.

Enjoy.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,900
Astute said:
So why won't it be as good?

The EU has said hardly anything will change. Should we make it so things do change before negotiations are finished? All this is during the transitional period. The EU says for 1 to 2 years.
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The transition period is comprehensive and will be implemented over a longer period. A contingency plan is a number of short term fixes because there is no transitional period.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,901
martcov said:
There will be no Transition Period in no deal. That is why they call it no deal. The transition period is dependent on a deal. It’s in the deal which will be rejected tonight.

Enjoy.
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Eu said 1year no change didn’t they? For no deal.
 
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greys4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,902
Nick said:
It's OK will just have a chippy on a Tuesday instead.
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Actually you dont need to you can blow £300 on one of these
Why I bought a Brexit survival kit
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,903
Sky Blue Pete said:
Eu said 1year no change didn’t they? For no deal.
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Not according to Astute’s link. They made it quite clear that the contingency plans wouldn’t be the same as the transition period.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,904
Sky Blue Pete said:
Eu said 1year no change didn’t they? For no deal.
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Heiko Maas has said there would be more talks if May loses, but no significant concessions. Maybe they would keep more things going if article 50 was extended.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,905
greys4life said:
Actually you dont need to you can blow £300 on one of these
Why I bought a Brexit survival kit
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The BBC should be ashamed at peddling this nonsense.
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,906
martcov said:
No it doesn’t. It says if there is no deal certain things will be extended 9 months, 1 year or 2 years, but it will be nowhere near as good as if they accept the deal with a transition period. In other words only the essential things such as air travel, lorry licenses, and financial transactions with derivatives.
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So you say that the deal will not be accepted but you want to talk about what will happen when the deal is accepted?

I will say it again. Hardly anything will change with us and the EU whilst talks are ongoing on a trade deal. They have said nothing will change because it would cause harm to the remaining countries in the EU. That makes it also sound as though they will want a trade deal.

So onto food. We produce 50% of what we consume. 30% comes from the EU. The next highest will be 4%. We already trade So this will continue. Or would someone like to point out why it won't.

The reason it was spoken about was queues at ferry ports. But the EU wants it to continue. They don't want the north of France to suffer badly as it would if there are problems. Or are those that always defend them now saying that they are lying?

Just another project fear for now although nothing can be guaranteed in the future.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,907
martcov said:
Not according to Astute’s link. They made it quite clear that the contingency plans wouldn’t be the same as the transition period.
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What contingency plans? Is that for what won't happen?

The EU has said nothing will change. Don't you believe them?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,908
Sky Blue Pete said:
Eu said 1year no change didn’t they? For no deal.
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Exactly. But Mart likes to muddy the water with his drivel.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,909
greys4life said:
Actually you dont need to you can blow £300 on one of these
Why I bought a Brexit survival kit
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The packs include enough freeze-dried food to last 30 days, a water filter and fire starting gel.
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That's genius, take money off people who are too stupid to be in charge of a bank account!
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 15, 2019
  • #28,910
Second referendum amendment will not be allowed for discussion

Good
 
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