Business back it, because it is no change for them but the public see it as an unacceptable failure, half want to reverse the decision and half say sod it lets just walk out and see how the EU like that. Fasten your seat belts we are heading for heavy turbulence.
I spent years working in Belfast as well as having family from here. So I'm not just coming at this from an outsiders standpoint.
Society has moved on but there's still hatred and divide in the air. A few years ago they decided to not fly the union jack everyday from the city hall and the unionists rioted for a week. They caused millions of pounds of damage because of a flag.... So imagine what they'd do at the proposition of "their country" being taken away?
Also, there's a lot of Catholic people in N.Ireland getting British benefits they would never get in the south and it's a rip off down there too so I doubt even as many nationalists would vote for a united Ireland than one would assume.
Better the devil you know.
My family is from the border county of Fermanagh and it’s a different picture to Belfast. That’s not to diminish your opinion. Whatever happens there will continue to be hotspots of trouble and Belfast will undoubtedly be one of them. Not everything is a rip off in the south and one of the benefits of living at the border is consumer choice to shop either side. The people of Northern Ireland will also lose the benefits of living in the EU, that also has a price and the difference between the north and south in terms of healthcare, social housing, education, civil rights, policing etc isn’t the gulf it used be and in many ways is superior in the south.
Changing history of what you have said again I see. And trying to change what I mean when I have said something. Just like you tried to do with the Irish and Romanian populations.If you’re capable of understanding it I actually haven’t said any such thing. When I said that its down to decades of successive governments failing to invest in the infrastructure that our growing economy demands that includes enough housing to house the immigration that our growing economy demands. They’re intrinsically connected which is why I’ve always also said that you have two options, shrink the economy to the point that it suits our infrastructure or invest in the infrastructure to keep up. It’s our economy that demands immigration and therefore an investment in infrastructure to accommodate a growing population to accommodate a growing economy. It’s a failure to invest that’s the issue which ever direction you want to look at it, unless of course you want to shrink the economy to alleviate the problem.
Changing history of what you have said again I see. And trying to change what I mean when I have said something. Just like you tried to do with the Irish and Romanian populations.
So me saying that we need to catch up with the infrastructure in the UK and the best way of doing it is to slow down the incoming rate is me saying that I am anti immigration? No. I am anti people not having anywhere to live. But of course you will try to twist everything you can. Sidestep Tony strikes again.
It's mad that essentially Irish passport holders have more rights than British passport holders - free to live and vote in the UK without restrictions and EU rights.
My family is from the border county of Fermanagh and it’s a different picture to Belfast. That’s not to diminish your opinion. Whatever happens there will continue to be hotspots of trouble and Belfast will undoubtedly be one of them. Not everything is a rip off in the south and one of the benefits of living at the border is consumer choice to shop either side. The people of Northern Ireland will also lose the benefits of living in the EU, that also has a price and the difference between the north and south in terms of healthcare, social housing, education, civil rights, policing etc isn’t the gulf it used be and in many ways is superior in the south.
This is the big problem for me. All those who backed leave did a runner as soon as the result was announced and now just sit on the sidelines taking pot shots. Lets get one of them front and centre and see if they can deliver what was promised.Apparently Gove has just turned down the position of Brexit Secretary, this is one of the leaders of the official brexit campaign who wanted the PM’s job when Cameron resigned. He’s looking more and more like a bregretter every week. Doesn’t want the job of delivering it and seems to back May (publicly at least) at every turn. It can’t be the same guy can it?
It's weird you've never mentioned that when others have posted Farage's call on here
I think we can agree that it's a very complicated matter!
The cost if living is considerably higher in the south though. The amount of southern families driving across the border to shop is incredible and that can't be so readily dismissed when considering the motives behind what way someone might vote.
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The odds list for potential May replacements is depressing reading:
Dominic Raab - 5/1
Sajid Javid - 11/2
Boris Johnson - 6/1
Michael Gove - 17/2
Jeremy Hunt - 17/2
Jacob Rees-Mogg - 17/2
David Davis - 17/2
This is the big problem for me. All those who backed leave did a runner as soon as the result was announced and now just sit on the sidelines taking pot shots. Lets get one of them front and centre and see if they can deliver what was promised.
The odds list for potential May replacements is depressing reading:
Dominic Raab - 5/1
Sajid Javid - 11/2
Boris Johnson - 6/1
Michael Gove - 17/2
Jeremy Hunt - 17/2
Jacob Rees-Mogg - 17/2
David Davis - 17/2
Gove is by far the best candidate out of that lot.
depressing compared to who? clearly not the Labour leader.
To be honest with you every time there is a caller on there saying they've changed their mind it sounds staged. Both sides of the coin!
I've not heard the Farage one but if it's what I think it is (remainer saying they'd now vote leave) I would take that with a pinch of salt too!
I can't say for sure, but I'd wager a fair bit of cash that Corbyn knows that Dover to Calais in an important trading route between the UK and the EU, just a hunch.
That will help when interest rates doubles and so does your mortgage
it would help when you're the incumbent Brexit Secretary.
I’d rather that level of incompetence that Corbynomics thanks
You've no idea what Corbyns level of competence in government would be.
If we've got to the stage where Raab or Davis are acceptable under any circumstance then we are screwed.
You've no idea what Corbyns level of competence in government would be.
If we've got to the stage where Raab or Davis are acceptable under any circumstance then we are screwed.
The thought of Corbyn "having a go" though, is frightening in itself.
As frightening as a Tory party tearing itself apart whilst in government? Delivering on nothing whilst the vultures circling.
I’m not really a Corby fan but this government has hamstrung itself and blood letting just begun.
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I think the whole way it's being panned out is concerning. I voted Leave, but think the whole process since has been a disaster.
I couldn't get my head around May, who was pro-EU I believe, becoming PM.
We need a strong government/PM to lead us through Brexit. Something that we haven't had, yet.
May is doing a great speech and is answering all the press onslaught calmly.
It’s Caesar before the Ides of March
You've no idea what Corbyns level of competence in government would be.
May at press conference repeating same old lines. She is like the proverbial ostrich...not acknowledging that the whole situation has changed with all those MPs publicly saying the deal is a non starter.
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Doesn't matter does it? as long as he knows where Dover is...
Considering the position she has been in, I'm not sure what else she could have in terms of the deal. The likes of JRM are all mouth, they have offered no viable solution for anything and just run their mouths off.
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