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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,426
Grendel said:
It’s pretty absurd to try and say that we should not leave the EU in case it has an impact on a tiny proportion of the UK population
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Most in the UK don't give a toss about NI and wouldn't be bothered if it went.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,427
Grendel said:
Why will it? I would then assume we will
Just leave with no deal and an interim compromise on base elements will be found
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you think May will stay if her Chequers proposal gets voted down?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,428
Grendel said:
Fancy a bet on that?
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On what sort of timescale?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,429
Sick Boy said:
Most in the UK don't give a toss about NI and wouldn't be bothered if it went.
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Correct - it’s peripheral in my thought process
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,430
Sick Boy said:
On what sort of timescale?
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You decide
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,431
clint van damme said:
you think May will stay if her Chequers proposal gets voted down?
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Yes I do as I believe she will see it through post March - there is zero chance of the likes of Johnson being elected - I doubt he’d even get enough nominations
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,432
Grendel said:
You decide
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Let's call it the next GE and a Labour government getting in?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,433
Grendel said:
Yes I do as I believe she will see it through post March - there is zero chance of the likes of Johnson being elected - I doubt he’d even get enough nominations
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I think the only reason she'd survive the Chequers proposal getting thrown out is if no one else wanted the gig.
I agree about Boris.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,434
Sick Boy said:
Let's call it the next GE and a Labour government getting in?
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You said Corbyn not labour
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,435
Grendel said:
You do know why the poll you produced is funny don’t you?
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Which one of them?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,436
Grendel said:
It’s pretty absurd to try and say that we should not leave the EU in case it has an impact on a tiny proportion of the UK population
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The dumbest thing you’ve ever said. And there’s quite a list. The good GFA effects the U.K. as a whole. Ask the people of Warrington, or Birmingham or wherever atrocities have happened in the UK because there wasn’t a piece agreement in place.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,437
SkyblueBazza said:
Oh god struth. He is STILL in denial

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Denial of what exactly? That Brexit is a shambles? That the referendum was tainted? That a majority now think we made the wrong decision? That a no deal would be an absolute disaster? That no one has come up with serious foreseeable benefits? ( oh, sorry Rees Mogg says the UK will be booming in 50 years time ).
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,438
Grendel said:
Correct - it’s peripheral in my thought process
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Not surprised at that.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,439
martcov said:
Which one of them?
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You actually only showed one actual poll - from an organisation that predicted an overwhelming remain vote the day before the referendum
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,440
martcov said:
Denial of what exactly? That Brexit is a shambles? That the referendum was tainted? That a majority now think we made the wrong decision? That a no deal would be an absolute disaster? That no one has come up with serious foreseeable benefits? ( oh, sorry Rees Mogg says the UK will be booming in 50 years time ).
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A majority don’t think it’s the wrong decision
 
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martcov

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  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,441
SkyblueBazza said:
There has more often than not been an overwhelming majority of people in favour of brimging back the death penalty in surveys. MP'S have had a vote on it & chucked it out.
Lies, lies & statistics...& then there is doing the right thing by the standards we choose to function at. So no on two counts...it is NOT clear that a majority is in favour of a second vote (the numbers change with every story probably) - so denying the people (? SOME) a second vote is not undemocratic. Otherwise we would be in the pollbooths 8hrs 3 days a week probably.

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The death penalty is voted on conscience. It is nothing like people recognising the cock up which Brexit is. Just look at them... BoJo, Farage, Fox, Rees Mogg all of them privileged and guaranteed to do well out of Brexit. As for the rest of us... constant negative scenarios of a no deal Brexit being fobbed of as project fear again as we are led up the garden path. As Banks even told us we were being led up the garden path. Still, people hold on to the myth of sailing into a Brexit sunset whilst falling out of the single market with our nearest neighbours. If it all goes pearshaped, no one can say that they weren’t warned.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,442
Grendel said:
A majority don’t think it’s the wrong decision
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According to YouGov they do.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,443
martcov said:
According to YouGov they do.
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No they don’t
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,444
Grendel said:
You said Corbyn not labour
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Okay then, it's the same bet as I can't seem him going before the next GE. 20quid charity bet Corbyn will be PM after the next GE?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,445
Grendel said:
Correct - it’s peripheral in my thought process
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That’s because you’re a self centred prick.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,446
Sick Boy said:
Okay then, it's the same bet as I can't seem him going before the next GE. 20quid charity bet Corbyn will be PM after the next GE?
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Fine with me
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,447
Grendel said:
You actually only showed one actual poll - from an organisation that predicted an overwhelming remain vote the day before the referendum
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They said it was skewed, but based on the same scale and allowing for that, it is still enough points more for a remain win.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,448
Grendel said:
A majority don’t think it’s the wrong decision
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A larger percentage do. According to yougov.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,449
skybluetony176 said:
That’s because you’re a self centred prick.
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Like Martcov who rejoices in the prosperity that he gets from the destitution and poverty of other Eu countries?

Not really just can’t see why the whole of the uk would put that issue anywhere near the top of their list
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,450
martcov said:
A larger percentage do. According to yougov.
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They don’t but hey ho
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,451
skybluetony176 said:
That’s because you’re a self centred prick.
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Considering his own boss has a completely different thought process and wants to keep frictionless supply chains by at least having access to the Single Market.. it is a strang thought process.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,452
Grendel said:
They don’t but hey ho
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Ok, if you say so....
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,453
Grendel said:
Like Martcov who rejoices in the prosperity that he gets from the destitution and poverty of other Eu countries?

Not really just can’t see why the whole of the uk would put that issue anywhere near the top of their list
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What a load of old bollocks. Let’s see how JLR‘s prosperity in the UK goes Post Brexit. You’ll get your nice pension whatever, so you cannot lose either way.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,454
Grendel said:
Like Martcov who rejoices in the prosperity that he gets from the destitution and poverty of other Eu countries?

Not really just can’t see why the whole of the uk would put that issue anywhere near the top of their list
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No. Like someone who hasn’t got a clue and somehow hasn’t realised that the IRA committed atrocities on the U.K. mainland effecting whole communities and they were stopped by the GFA effecting the whole of the U.K. for the better. You’re a moron.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,455
skybluetony176 said:
That’s because you’re a self centred prick.
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In reality it's a sentiment shared by a majority in the GB, especially in England and the younger generations. I'd wager most wouldn't be opposed to Irish unity, neither would the UK government. Would the Republic want to take the north on though? I doubt it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,456
martcov said:
Considering his own boss has a completely different thought process and wants to keep frictionless supply chains by at least having access to the Single Market.. it is a strang thought process.
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Oh dear rabid frothing at the mouth now
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,457
skybluetony176 said:
No. Like someone who hasn’t got a clue and somehow hasn’t realised that the IRA committed atrocities on the U.K. mainland effecting whole communities and they were stopped by the GFA effecting the whole of the U.K. for the better. You’re a moron.
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The IRA should have paid for their crimes by the rope - the appeasement if the murdering filth was a blot on the uk history books
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,458
Grendel said:
The IRA should have paid for their crimes by the rope - the appeasement if the murdering filth was a blot on the uk history books
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Numerous sides committed atrocities and 2 sides terrorism, funny how you never mention that.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,459
Sick Boy said:
Numerous sides committed atrocities and 2 sides terrorism, funny how you never mention that.
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No it was a war
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 14, 2018
  • #19,460
Grendel said:
No it was a war
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Events such as Bloody Sunday were excusable as it was a 'war'? How about actions by protestant parliamentaries?
 
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