Are you confusing losing veto rights because of majority voting ( democracy), with losing voting rights ( not democracy)?
Why do you keep on with losing your vote or leaving being democratic?
No. It is you that is trying to make out that losing your vote is democratic as you also have the choice to leave the EU.Are you confusing losing veto rights because of majority voting ( democracy), with losing voting rights ( not democracy)?
It sounds like you are getting desperate.Well if they are deflecting then it’s not working. BTW it’s public schoolboys, millionaires and hedge fund managers in the UK against the EU. Against NAFTA in the USA are billionaires, hedge fund managers and 3 of Trumps cabinet are Goldman Sachs ex employees and of course Bannon is ex Goldman Sachs. So,it sounds like you’ve been reading Breitbart under the bed sheets again.
Kamal Ahmed. More pro EU than anyone on here. And it is about how America will do.
It sounds like you are getting desperate.
No. It is you that is trying to make out that losing your vote is democratic as you also have the choice to leave the EU.
Like I said earlier they are only interested in what is best for America normally. Try reading up on them.It was conducted by a US think tank and has been quite widely reported. I can't seem to find it in the Mail or the Express though.
Brexit Britain worse off outside the EU, says think tank
Social rules?No. Just pointing out that there are lot of arseholes who want to smash the EU. They want the trade benefits, but not social rules and minimum wages, which is why they will no doubt slag off people like Schultz who want more democracy and less tax dodging. You will no doubt be with them.
Can you explain why you keep going on about majority voting when you have already admitted that they won't have a vote?Which vote are you talking about? Giving people's representatives more power is certainly not your thing. And majority voting stops single countries trying to block policy for whatever reason. Much more democratic to accept majority voting. You say you like democracy, but when it's 26:2 for Juncker, you hate that and say we 'got no say'. We had 1/28th. You don't respect the vote anyway. When the EU gets majority voting on things in the second chamber, you won't accept that either as you prefer countries being able to override the majority which you describe as 'having a say'.( at least in the case of Britain ).
You've come out as a leaver, it is about time you came out as an anti democrat.
Like I said earlier they are only interested in what is best for America normally. Try reading up on them.
Or you can try this
Prison Planet.com » Insider Reveals Diabolical Secrets Of The Rand Corporation
Rand have helped run the American governments for decades. We are their route into the EU. When we are gone so is the route.So you'd agree that any trade deal is going to be massively in the USA's favour?
Social rules?
You kept going on about democracy. Now they want to take the vote away. Yet you try and make out that losing the right to vote will make them more democratic.
Or are we supposed to congratulate Schulz on planning to take control away from the remaining EU countries?
Can you explain why you keep going on about majority voting when you have already admitted that they won't have a vote?
Rand have helped run the American governments for decades. We are their route into the EU. When we are gone so is the route.
Have you tried reading up on them yet? You will be in for a surprise.
Here you go back into denial mode. And being German I would expect you to at least know his name.Who won't have a vote?
For one I work for an American company.How are we the USA’s route into the EU?
Rand have helped run the American governments for decades. We are their route into the EU. When we are gone so is the route.
Have you tried reading up on them yet? You will be in for a surprise.
How are we the USA’s route into the EU?
Oh dear.Isn't that a conspiracy theory? If they control the government, why is the current one anti EU and has backed Brexit?
It is more than sales. Like I said it is their way into the EU.I'm not sure he knows himself. Even if it was the case, what would be stopping them going via Ireland or any other country?
For one I work for an American company.
Starting to import: Importing from non-EU countries - GOV.UK
It is more than sales. Like I said it is their way into the EU.
Oh dear.
They want what is best for the USA. They don't care about us.
This is from Rand
Potential Impacts of Brexit on UK, EU, U.S. Economies
Strangely enough they say the best all round is a USA UK EU deal. Work that one out.
Look into it or check the Rand page saying that a USA EU UK deal is best.What does that even mean? Again, if we were, why couldn't they go via another country?
It is more than sales. Like I said it is their way into the EU.
Look into it or check the Rand page saying that a USA EU UK deal is best.
But that doesn't give the USA EU UK deal.Yeah I saw that earlier. You'd think they'd be positive about Brexit then if your claims were true.
Can you read? If you can then read the link.Are you on the wind up?
But that doesn't give the USA EU UK deal.
What does that even mean? Again, if we were, why couldn't they go via another country?
Here you go back into denial mode. And being German I would expect you to at least know his name.
So are you denying that the EU wants the German election debacle sorting out?
Are you denying that Juncker wants to make major changes?
Are you denying that Macron wants the same?
Are you denying that he wants them to have the choice of losing their vote or leaving the EU?
You won't understand if you don't want to.How? While we’re in the EU we’re governed by the same import regulations as every other member state. Nothing is going to change for US importers to the EU other than maybe a change of destination for getting goods into the EU. Which (if what you say has any truth) actually would cut us out and maybe take work away from the UK.
Look into it or check the Rand page saying that a USA EU UK deal is best.
You won't understand if you don't want to.
We have had good relations for years. Who else do the USA have a good long term relationship with?
I thought you were dismissing what Rand had to say?
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