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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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King of the Lesbians

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  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #876
chiefdave said:
From Thursday. The 2011 bit is the date of the last census which would have been used to profile the regions,
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So a 2011 census has been used to profile that data?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #877
Moff said:
Out of interest when the Banks and House builders crashed in the recession were you thinking of emigrating then? were you on the site bemoaning the state of the economy then?

The economy and shares recovered, as they will again, but it will take time. I am worried, but the over the top analysis and hyperbole in the press and on this site is absolutely ridiculous.
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What a fucking idiotic thing to say. But then again it's you saying it so it's more expected than anything else.

The last recession was caused by a worldwide banking crisis. This recession will be caused by bigoted, ignorant, small minded, little Englanders who don't have the intellect to see that they're biting of their noses to spite there faces. You can see the difference I'm sure.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #878
FRY-CCFC said:
MEP David Hannan and big vote leave campaigner said on newsnight last night he's not against freedom of movement. The reaction of Evan Davis was fantastic. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628894
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And the back peddling continues. It seems that the leave campaign are lining up to confess that they've tricked voters.
 
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mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #879
skybluetony176 said:
What a fucking idiotic thing to say. But then again it's you saying it so it's more expected than anything else.

The last recession was caused by a worldwide banking crisis. This recession will be caused by bigoted, ignorant, small minded, little Englanders who don't have the intellect to see that they're biting of their noses to spite there faces. You can see the difference I'm sure.
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Are you really that intelligent and well informed that you can so easily discount 52% of the population? Please remind me of the definition of bigot.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #880
King of the Lesbians said:
So a 2011 census has been used to profile that data?
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Yep, the census will show things like age and education by region. That would then be matched against the result in each region. So they could say we know x number of people in Coventry are degree educated and we know y number of people voted remain. They can then plot that for each region and bingo, you have the graphical representation.
 
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lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #881
skybluetony176 said:
What a fucking idiotic thing to say. But then again it's you saying it so it's more expected than anything else.

The last recession was caused by a worldwide banking crisis. This recession will be caused by bigoted, ignorant, small minded, little Englanders who don't have the intellect to see that they're biting of their noses to spite there faces. You can see the difference I'm sure.
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The worldwide recession was caused by a whole industry (banking) driven by ignorance, arrogance and greed. They hoodwinked the worlds governments and people of all nations...and we are still dealing with the fallout. This referendum is partly due to the failure of governments to control the excesses of the bankers


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mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #882
lifeskyblue said:
The worldwide recession was caused by a whole industry (banking) driven by ignorance, arrogance and greed. They hoodwinked the worlds governments and people of all nations...and we are still dealing with the fallout. This referendum is partly due to the failure of governments to control the excesses of the bankers


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Nothing to do with Greenspan and Brown?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #883
lifeskyblue said:
The worldwide recession was caused by a whole industry (banking) driven by ignorance, arrogance and greed. They hoodwinked the worlds governments and people of all nations...and we are still dealing with the fallout. This referendum is partly due to the failure of governments to control the excesses of the bankers
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Oddly enough a leave vote could lead to increased EU regulation of UK banks. At the moment the UK is exempt from the regulations but in place after the crash, leaving the Bank of England solely responsible. However we will now need to make a new agreement with the EU to have any hope of retaining our financial services sector. They could insist on the UK now implementing the EU regulations.

How they will balance that with the Conservative desire to make the UK some sort of tax haven for the super rich I have no idea as they will want less regulation.
 
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King of the Lesbians

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #884
chiefdave said:
Yep, the census will show things like age and education by region. That would then be matched against the result in each region. So they could say we know x number of people in Coventry are degree educated and we know y number of people voted remain. They can then plot that for each region and bingo, you have the graphical representation.
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So I was a thick xenophobe way back in 2011 then?
I never even realised…
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2016
  • #885
mrtrench said:
Are you really that intelligent and well informed that you can so easily discount 52% of the population? Please remind me of the definition of bigot.
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Well I do realise that it was 52% of 72% of the eligible to vote population not 52% of the population for starters. So in the intellect and informed stakes I'm already one step ahead of yourself.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #886
skybluetony176 said:
Well I do realise that it was 52% of 72% of the population not 52% of the population for starters. So in the intellect and informed stakes I'm already one step ahead of yourself.
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I asked you earlier if you think you are better informed on this subject than Ruth Lea? Are you Tony?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #887
Bregretters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...AY-EU-one-admits-didn-t-think-vote-count.html
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #888
skybluetony176 said:
Well I do realise that it was 52% of 72% of the population not 52% of the population for starters. So in the intellect and informed stakes I'm already one step ahead of yourself.
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UK population 65.1m
Registered voters 46.5m
Turnout 33.5m
Leave 17.4m

So that's 26.7% of the UK population voting leave

Bonus stat for you. Who our next Prime Minister is will be voted on by 0.2% of the population. The winner only needs to get votes from 0.12% of the population.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #889
mrtrench said:
Are you really that intelligent and well informed that you can so easily discount 52% of the population? Please remind me of the definition of bigot.
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52% of the population?

Oh you mean the 26.74% of the population who voted Leave.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #890
armybike said:
52% of the population?

Oh you mean the 26.74% of the population who voted Leave.
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Which is more than voted to stay - boo hoo
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #891
Grendel said:
I asked you earlier if you think you are better informed on this subject than Ruth Lea? Are you Tony?
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Is Ruth Lea better informed on this subject than the likes of George Akerlof, Christopher Pissarides, Peter Diamond, Eric Maskin, Kenneth Arrow, Jean Tirol, Angus Deaton, James Heckman, James Mirrlees & Robert Solow?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #892
Grendel said:
I asked you earlier if you think you are better informed on this subject than Ruth Lea? Are you Tony?
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Me personally no. This guy on the other hand does

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ng-economists-warn-of-long-term-brexit-damage

I'll listen to him thanks. Do you know more than him?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #893
Grendel said:
Which is more than voted to stay - boo hoo
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Indeed, 24.8% against 26.7%. Very close, comes down to 1.9% of the population.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #894
Grendel said:
Which is more than voted to stay - boo hoo
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Based on the lies that the leave campaign are already starting to come clean on with very little pushing. Reason enough for a second referendum on its own. Bregretters are coming out the wood work all over the place.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #895
chiefdave said:
Indeed, 24.8% against 26.7%. Very close, comes down to 1.9% of the population.
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73.26% of the population didn't put an X in the Leave box.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #896
skybluetony176 said:
Me personally no. This guy on the other hand does

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ng-economists-warn-of-long-term-brexit-damage

I'll listen to him thanks. Do you know more than him?
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Good you listen to the Europhile. I will listen to the highly respected UK Economist
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #897
skybluetony176 said:
Based on the lies that the leave campaign are already starting to come clean on with very little pushing. Reason enough for a second referendum on its own. Bregretters are coming out the wood work all over the place.
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You sound like a pathetic child who has had his toys taken off him.
No wonder you got so prickly about North Korea - it sounds like you want to destroy democracy and the will of the people. Emigrate there Tony I am sure you will be better off
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #898
Grendel said:
Good you listen to the Europhile. I will listen to the highly respected UK Economist
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So do you know more than Christopher Pissarides?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #899
chiefdave said:
Is Ruth Lea better informed on this subject than the likes of George Akerlof, Christopher Pissarides, Peter Diamond, Eric Maskin, Kenneth Arrow, Jean Tirol, Angus Deaton, James Heckman, James Mirrlees & Robert Solow?
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Who is he?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #900
skybluetony176 said:
So do you know more than Christopher Pissarides?
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Isnt he the guy who said the Euro is a basket case and should be dismantled?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #901
Grendel said:
Who is he?
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An economist who was given the Nobel Prize for Economic Science in 2015 for his work on consumption, poverty and welfare.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #902
Grendel said:
Isnt he the guy who said the Euro is a basket case and should be dismantled?
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He's the macroeconomics guy isn't he? Opponent of austerity who thinks the Euro needs to be reformed and possibly split into two regions along with more control passing to the ECB.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #903
Grendel said:
Isnt he the guy who said the Euro is a basket case and should be dismantled?
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He's a guy who has a Nobel prize for economics. Still I'm sure the TV personality, sorry, highly respected UK economist you're falling over knows more than him. That's before we even get to the list that chief Dave put up.

What next? Will you be taking advice from Ant and Dec?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #904
chiefdave said:
An economist who was given the Nobel Prize for Economic Science in 2015 for his work on consumption, poverty and welfare.
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Oh the guy who said the increasing immigration will destabilise Europe - that guy?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #905
chiefdave said:
He's the macroeconomics guy isn't he? Opponent of austerity who thinks the Euro needs to be reformed and possibly split into two regions along with more control passing to the ECB.
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No he is the guy who though the Euro was a good thing, then didn't - reliable guy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...economist-who-once-backed-currency-union.html
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #906
skybluetony176 said:
He's a guy who has a Nobel prize for economics. Still I'm sure the TV personality, sorry, highly respected UK economist you're falling over knows more than him. That's before we even get to the list that chief Dave put up.

What next? Will you be taking advice from Ant and Dec?
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What is he respected for - keeping his views for a year and then changing his mind?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...economist-who-once-backed-currency-union.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-Pissarides-warns-lost-generation-dole.html
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #907
Grendel said:
Oh the guy who said the increasing immigration will destabilise Europe - that guy?
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I think he said the increasing refugee crisis not increasing immigration.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #908
skybluetony176 said:
I think he said the increasing refugee crisis not increasing immigration.
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LOL - the gift truly keeps giving. Tony, if you had to find someone to support you in an argument on Child Welfare you'd bring up the McCanns - it's hilarious
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #909
Grendel said:
Oh the guy who said the increasing immigration will destabilise Europe - that guy?
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I presume you are referring to when he said the high level of refugees entering Europe following so soon after the crash could destabilise Europe in the short term.

Are you suggesting that as a result of leaving the EU we will now refuse to take non-EU refugees?

How is that going to work in practice as the border control will now be in the UK and therefore they can claim asylum.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2016
  • #910
Do you know before the vote no-one knew what was gonna happen to the UK but now the vote is in every c**t knows what is gonna happen.........
 
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