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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Nick

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  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #491
armybike said:
So another one with no plan! Fantastic.
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Does that mean every time somebody says SISU out you will be demanding a 10 point plan from them?
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #492
The plan is quite simple. It is for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. That's what the referendum was about. How that is done is for the politicians but they need to follow the will of the people.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #493
well it happened as expected, could tell from local polling station that jeremy kyle show must have finished for the day

now i guess next step is to vote farage or johnson into power

right wing england here we come
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #494
Grendel said:
Nonsense. It disengagement from mainstream politics for large sectors of the country. It's a resounding defeat if you take out London and the other countries.

It's a swipe at the lazy inept political system.
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Ha, ha, brilliant! If you take out London and the other counties! Ha!

Yep, if you took out certain teams out of League One last season we would have been in the play-offs.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #495
Companies trade, countries don't. Countries facilitate trade for the good of their economies. If a reciprocal free trade agreement between the UK and member states of the EU was valuable yesterday it still is today.
Corbyn should have gone with his instinct and backed the leave campaign, the labour strategists in London shown to be completely out of touch with its core vote yet again.
 
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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #496
fernandopartridge said:
Companies trade, countries don't. Countries facilitate trade for the good of their economies. If a reciprocal free trade agreement between the UK and member states of the EU was valuable yesterday it still is today.
Corbyn should have gone with his instinct and backed the leave campaign, the labour strategists in London shown to be completely out of touch with its core vote yet again.
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the labour strategists in London shown to be completely out of touch with its core vote yet again

Very true. In fact I'm not sure there is a labour core vote anymore.

SNP have wiped them out in Scotland and UKIP are doing the same in the Midlands and North.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #497
We've lost our AAA credit rating, pound has fallen drastically and £100bn wiped off the FTSE so far
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #498
armybike said:
So no plan then.

Well that's very reassuring.
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Sorry just been out panic buying Danish Bacon just in case the supply stops later today.

Thankfully its not up to me to get the plan in place to exit the EU. No country in the EU will want to end trading ties with us will they. There will be some renegotiation on existing trade deals and I'm sure that there will already be plenty in the pipeline with the rest of the world (sorry can't be 100% sure as I'm not part of the government).
Bank of England have already stated that they've made banks more robust over last 7 years with one eye on Eu so shouldn't be a major problem.
The only panic at the moment seems to be the FTSE and money market which was to be expected. It will settle down. Just give it a few weeks and it'll all be rosy in the garden.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #499
I wonder when we can expect a statement from George Duggins about Coventry City Council position on the EU referendum and if he will be resigning because he hasn't got the support of the Coventry people.

The question is who exactly was the City Council speaking for when they made that edict?

It certainly wasn't the public of Coventry.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #500
Philosorapter said:
I wonder when we can expect a statement from George Duggins about Coventry City Council position on the EU referendum and if he will be resigning because he hasn't got the support of the Coventry people.

The question is who exactly was the City Council speaking for when they made that edict?

It certainly wasn't the public of Coventry.
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What did they say?
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #501
For some this may look like a bad day for the UK but it's far worse for the EU. Belgium, France, Denmark, Italy, Holland and Sweden have all come out either saying they want out or have reaffirmed their stance on wanting out. Iceland have said it makes them less likely to join (didn't want to anyway tbf). In 10 years the EU could well be dead in the water anyway.

As for the markets pretty much every major one is in the red atm. The only one that has gained is gold. Also it should be noted I got 1.12€ to the pound last week after getting 1.24 the week before. It dropped from 1.30 to 1.20 around 2 this morning but has now bounced between 1.24 and 1.25 for the last hour or so. What's happening here is having an equal effect on what's happening almost everywhere else.

Now Cameron has gone Osbourne and to a lesser extent Corbyn has to go too now surely?
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #502
Nick said:
What did they say?
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...paigners-accused-xenophobic-language-11392100

Done on Councils time and apparently not a waste of tax payers money. CIty Council took a position which was not the views of the Coventry public. Does not matter if its a free vote or not.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #503
PTA said:
Like I said, continue to moan in defeat!!
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Well good to see you've got it all in hand.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #504
Nick said:
Does that mean every time somebody says SISU out you will be demanding a 10 point plan from them?
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Yes because SISU and leaving the EU are such brilliant comparisons to make. Well done.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #505
armybike said:
Yes because SISU and leaving the EU are such brilliant comparisons to make. Well done.
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Well you are demanding people give you a plan for it aren't you?
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #506
eastwoodsdustman said:
Sorry just been out panic buying Danish Bacon just in case the supply stops later today.

Thankfully its not up to me to get the plan in place to exit the EU. No country in the EU will want to end trading ties with us will they. There will be some renegotiation on existing trade deals and I'm sure that there will already be plenty in the pipeline with the rest of the world (sorry can't be 100% sure as I'm not part of the government).
Bank of England have already stated that they've made banks more robust over last 7 years with one eye on Eu so shouldn't be a major problem.
The only panic at the moment seems to be the FTSE and money market which was to be expected. It will settle down. Just give it a few weeks and it'll all be rosy in the garden.
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So no plan then, just crossing fingers and assumptions. Seems to be quite a common theme this.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #507
This is how I see it panning out.

We're either in for decades of decline or our exit means as part of the negotions to stay in the common market not much will actually change except we'll no longer have a say of any sort in how the EU is governed.

Struggling to see the win here.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #508
eastwoodsdustman said:
Sorry just been out panic buying Danish Bacon just in case the supply stops later today.

Thankfully its not up to me to get the plan in place to exit the EU. No country in the EU will want to end trading ties with us will they. There will be some renegotiation on existing trade deals and I'm sure that there will already be plenty in the pipeline with the rest of the world (sorry can't be 100% sure as I'm not part of the government).
Bank of England have already stated that they've made banks more robust over last 7 years with one eye on Eu so shouldn't be a major problem.
The only panic at the moment seems to be the FTSE and money market which was to be expected. It will settle down. Just give it a few weeks and it'll all be rosy in the garden.
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armybike said:
So no plan then, just crossing fingers and assumptions. Seems to be quite a common theme this.
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What do you think they should do, Mike?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #509
skybluetony176 said:
This is how I see it panning out.

We're ever in for decades of decline or our exit means as part of the negotions to stay in the common market not much will actually change except we'll no longer have a say of any sort in how the EU is governed.

Struggling to see the win here.
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I think this is pretty accurate. One things for certain is we've started our own recession today.
 
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Sumo the Micky Quinn

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #510
Liquid Gold said:
We've lost our AAA credit rating, pound has fallen drastically and £100bn wiped off the FTSE so far
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As predicted.

And no immigrants leaving. - ALMOST Everybody I spoke to over the last few months, who said 'vote out', People who want out have said it is down to EU Immigration, They want the Eastern Europeans gone. one said they have had them squatting on their doorstep, a lot have said the immigrants get MORE benefits than brits - This is something the UK could have sorted themselves. I have had one who told me their house was wrecked by Eastern Europeans and that was their reason, but they couldn't tell me how it was wrecked 'Let's leave it at that'.
But the most common response was "I Don't want them in Britain, They don't belong"

Immigration from within the EU will go up over the next year or 2, as this mess tries to get sorted out. People will be doing an Indiana Jones, diving under a closing door.
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Stating with the Calais Jungle, Our border crossing between the UK & Calais is in Calais, France, The French PM has said that this border WILL move back to Dover and he will not be able to stop the Calais Jungle to moving with it, Once on British soil its only a fence to climb.

Spain now want Gibraltar - Just been on the news.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #511
I have to say I'm shocked at the result........ I thought project fear plus the bullying & pressure applied by employers & union leaderships etc. would have been enough for remain to sneek it....but no....ha ha.

So....democracy is served.....the established elite, global bullies & banksters have all been given a big kick in the bollocks......

Interesting times indeed.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #512
skyblue93 said:
Encouraging that all the bookies have Remain as heavy favourites, going from 1/3 yesterday to 1/10 as of right now.
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Bloody gutted now, could have got 6/1 on Brexit at one point !! The bookies don't often get it this wrong !!
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #513
Sumo the Micky Quinn said:
As predicted.

And no immigrants leaving. - ALMOST Everybody I spoke to over the last few months, who said 'vote out', People who want out have said it is down to EU Immigration, They want the Eastern Europeans gone. one said they have had them squatting on their doorstep, a lot have said the immigrants get MORE benefits than brits - This is something the UK could have sorted themselves. I have had one who told me their house was wrecked by Eastern Europeans and that was their reason, but they couldn't tell me how it was wrecked 'Let's leave it at that'.
But the most common response was "I Don't want them in Britain, They don't belong"

Immigration from within the EU will go up over the next year or 2, as this mess tries to get sorted out. People will be doing an Indiana Jones, diving under a closing door.
.

Stating with the Calais Jungle, Our border crossing between the UK & Calais is in Calais, France, The French PM has said that this border WILL move back to Dover and he will not be able to stop the Calais Jungle to moving with it, Once on British soil its only a fence to climb.

Spain now want Gibraltar - Just been on the news.
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The French can say what they want we no longer will have to listen, if these people can climb the fences build bigger fences if we don't want the jungle just say no thank you they are yours to deal with its on your side of the water, I don't want the people that are here removed but I don't want many more coming in.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #514
Sumo the Micky Quinn said:
As predicted.

And no immigrants leaving. - ALMOST Everybody I spoke to over the last few months, who said 'vote out', People who want out have said it is down to EU Immigration, They want the Eastern Europeans gone. one said they have had them squatting on their doorstep, a lot have said the immigrants get MORE benefits than brits - This is something the UK could have sorted themselves. I have had one who told me their house was wrecked by Eastern Europeans and that was their reason, but they couldn't tell me how it was wrecked 'Let's leave it at that'.
But the most common response was "I Don't want them in Britain, They don't belong"

Immigration from within the EU will go up over the next year or 2, as this mess tries to get sorted out. People will be doing an Indiana Jones, diving under a closing door.
.

Stating with the Calais Jungle, Our border crossing between the UK & Calais is in Calais, France, The French PM has said that this border WILL move back to Dover and he will not be able to stop the Calais Jungle to moving with it, Once on British soil its only a fence to climb.

Spain now want Gibraltar - Just been on the news.
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The Calais Jungle 'deal', I believe is a separate Anglo-French treaty which has nothing to do with our membership of the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juxtaposed_controls
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #515
Someone at work yelled Boris for Prime Minister earlier when the news came through about Cameron going. It was a customer and therefore we couldn't tell them to shut up. One of my work mates said in response
"I'm sorry sir but I believe it's pronounced Nigel"
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #516
Ashdown said:
Bloody gutted now, could have got 6/1 on Brexit at one point !! The bookies don't often get it this wrong !!
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I had a fiver on it last night at 8/1.....I never doubted there would be a leave vote, virtually everybody I spoke to (outside of work) was voting out. Just annoyed I didn't put a few more quid on.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #517
James Smith said:
Someone at work yelled Boris for Prime Minister earlier when the news came through about Cameron going. It was a customer and therefore we couldn't tell them to shut up. One of my work mates said in response
"I'm sorry sir but I believe it's pronounced Nigel"
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Mad boris as pm what a bad day that would be
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #518
We are world leaders, always have been , 5th largest economy, fantastic broad base of skills, trading links with the entire world way before much of Europe. The EU was a sham, getting worse by the month but more than anything else we cannot keep taking people to the tune of over 300,000 per year from anywhere. Hopefully we will align with a system more akin to Australia or the old German work permit system. More than anything for me we have to stop accepting people who come here and don't integrate, those same people who invoke the most fear and add the most security risk.
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #519
Nick said:
Well you are demanding people give you a plan for it aren't you?
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No I'm not demanding anything, simply pointing out there isn't one.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #520
fernandopartridge said:
I had a fiver on it last night at 8/1.....I never doubted there would be a leave vote, virtually everybody I spoke to (outside of work) was voting out. Just annoyed I didn't put a few more quid on.
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That's just it, I'd say in our family and social circles the split seemed to be 75/25 OUT, but I still thought the bookies must know more than me.........they usually do !!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #521
armybike said:
No I'm not demanding anything, simply pointing out there isn't one.
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Yeah, fans on a football forum probably aren't putting plans together for the country anyway.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #522
I have to say I'm also shocked at the anger & vitriol being spewed at us "outers"......some of my mates have over-stepped the line with me today.....I'm gonna give them a chance to apologise over a beer at the weekend once they've stopped wetting themselves.....its not their fault they've lived for years wrapped up in the cotton wool bubble of white-collar public sector land..

....reality bites lads...reality bites.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #523
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I have to say I'm also shocked at the anger & vitriol being spewed at us "outers"......some of my mates have over-stepped the line with me today.....I'm gonna give them a chance to apologise over a beer at the weekend once they've stopped wetting themselves.....its not their fault they've lived for years wrapped up in the cotton wool bubble of white-collar public sector land..

....reality bites lads...reality bites.
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really? getting abuse?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #524
Ashdown said:
That's just it, I'd say in our family and social circles the split seemed to be 75/25 OUT, but I still thought the bookies must know more than me.........they usually do !!
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All they know is what people are betting on tbh!
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2016
  • #525
armybike said:
No I'm not demanding anything, simply pointing out there isn't one.
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You asked for a plan. I gave you what I think is what the government should be doing and you ignore it. Maybe you'd be better emailing David Cameron as he will have more of an idea about what his government is going to do than I will. He might write back to you specifically on that nice headed paper. You could mount it and hang it up on the toilet wall and then you could read it and feel full of self importance every time you have an shit.
 
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