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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (11 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Astute

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,606
Grendel said:
Any evidence of that? Don’t see you ever labelling Junker in such a way
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Don't be silly.

I would guess you are replying to SB who ignores what anyone in the EU does wrong and shifts the blame elsewhere. Absolute joke.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,607
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sigh
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But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,608
Astute said:
Don't be silly.

I would guess you are replying to SB who ignores what anyone in the EU does wrong and shifts the blame elsewhere. Absolute joke.
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The only joke on here is you.

Oh and yet something else you’ve completely made up and projected onto someone else.

Juncker’s comment was ridiculous and he should have apologised. Others have said similar on here and strangely you didn’t say anything.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,609
Astute said:
But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them
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...and yet more made up bollocks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,610
Astute said:
But that is the point.

Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.

It is clear who it is that defends those running the EU. So in the words of others we now have racists running the EU. Great. Nice one. Fantastic. Think I had better join in with defending them
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It isn’t that, it’s more the admission of him playing troll and applauding himself when people take the bait. From a dude who paints himself as mature.

It’s just tedious
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,611
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It isn’t that, it’s more the admission of him playing troll and applauding himself when people take the bait. From a dude who paints himself as mature.

It’s just tedious
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It’s all nonsense anyway because no one actually defended Juncker’s remarks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,612
Sick Boy said:
It’s all nonsense anyway because no one actually defended Juncker’s remarks.
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Some did assume it was G’s own views-since he delayed who the source was. As I said, it, or rather he, is tedious.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,613
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It isn’t that, it’s more the admission of him playing troll and applauding himself when people take the bait. From a dude who paints himself as mature.

It’s just tedious
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Ironic
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,614
Grendel said:
Ironic
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We could add in your hounding of another poster for being a council stooge. Or telling others to crawl up Duggins’ arsehole.

You aren’t winning the maturity medal just yet
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,615
Grendel said:
no I made a comment you jumped on racist bandwagon and I immediately showed you the source of it - it’s funny then to see the snivelling backtracking
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That’s not what happened though is it?

You criticised Junker for his comments and then I dug up several of your old comments and called you hypocrite.



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djr8369

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,616
Astute said:
Someone states a quote from someone else. He gets called a racist. But when shown who the comment originated from the person who quoted it is still the racist and not the person who originally said it.
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But none of that happened and nobody defended Junker.



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Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,617
djr8369 said:
That’s not what happened though is it?

You criticised Junker for his comments and then I dug up several of your old comments and called you hypocrite.



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what old comments?
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,618
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Some did assume it was G’s own views-since he delayed who the source was. As I said, it, or rather he, is tedious.
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Except he has made similar comment several times in different contexts and drawn no link to Juncker. It seems quite clear he holds some of these views as it occasionally seeps through. Others are free to disagree of course.


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djr8369

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,619
Grendel said:
what old comments?
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I posted a few the other day, that’s what this entire conversation is about.


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Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,620
djr8369 said:
I posted a few the other day, that’s what this entire conversation is about.


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The ones aimed at Mart which were before you joined the forum?

Are you a friend of his?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,621
The fourth reich comments aren’t racist and I’ve pointed out that this is in fact the title of a book by a senior economist which i urged your friend Mart to read - an offer he declined
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,622
Grendel said:
The fourth reich comments aren’t racist and I’ve pointed out that this is in fact the title of a book by a senior economist which i urged your friend Mart to read - an offer he declined
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The only books I can find with that in the title are ones with thinly or not at all veiled attempts to link modern Germany to the Nazis. The connotations are obvious
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,623
Grendel said:
The ones aimed at Mart which were before you joined the forum?

Are you a friend of his?
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I’m not going to get drawn into your distractions. You know where I work so you know I’m not Mart yet you persist with it anyway.


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Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,624
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The only books I can find with that in the title are ones with thinly or not at all veiled attempts to link modern Germany to the Nazis. The connotations are obvious
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It’s from a economist and it’s book is entirely showing the political and economic control of Germany - it’s hardly a radical thought process. The euro would not exist unless Germany controlled it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,625
Grendel said:
It’s from a economist and it’s book is entirely showing the political and economic control of Germany - it’s hardly a radical thought process. The euro would not exist unless Germany controlled it
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Link? Genuinely can't find it.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,626
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Link? Genuinely can't find it.
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The EU: In, out, shake it all about....
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,627
Though actually what I would urge you to do is explore the thinking of Will Hutton who freely admits the economic model has to be preserved in Europe for the prime benefit of Germany to avoid future military might
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,628
Grendel said:
The EU: In, out, shake it all about....
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At most I can find opinion pieces from the good doctor but no book.

Grendel said:
Though actually what I would urge you to do is explore the thinking of Will Hutton who freely admits the economic model has to be preserved in Europe for the prime benefit of Germany to avoid future military might
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All I see from him lately on the subject is vociferous support for remaining in the EU and criticism of Corbyn for trying to pursue a deal. Looking further back I do see comments to the effect that Germany holds the European project together-but that the UK should be working with rather than against it. Unless there's some other place he's said what you're describing?

I do wonder what Germans themselves would make of the comparison
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,629
Brighton Sky Blue said:
At most I can find opinion pieces from the good doctor but no book.



All I see from him lately on the subject is vociferous support for remaining in the EU and criticism of Corbyn for trying to pursue a deal. Looking further back I do see comments to the effect that Germany holds the European project together-but that the UK should be working with rather than against it. Unless there's some other place he's said what you're describing?

I do wonder what Germans themselves would make of the comparison
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Will Hutton also doesn’t hold Boris in high regard either
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,630
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The only books I can find with that in the title are ones with thinly or not at all veiled attempts to link modern Germany to the Nazis. The connotations are obvious
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Heaven forbid anyone should make any such comparisons, they are reserved for anyone British who leans towards the right aren't they?

German city declares a ‘Nazi emergency’

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,631
SkyblueBazza said:
Heaven forbid anyone should make any such comparisons, they are reserved for anyone British who leans towards the right aren't they?

German city declares a ‘Nazi emergency’

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What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,632
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game
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discussion on this topic is now becoming beyond farcical
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,633
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What you mean like how a politician arguing for a £10 minimum wage is labelled 'hard left'? Political dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for decades.

Find Merkel's plans for Jewish genocide and then the Nazi comparisons are fair game
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Well given it is the local German Authority themselves making the comparison in the link provided. I think we can safely say ypur response is a clear attempt to distract.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,634
SkyblueBazza said:
Well given it is the local German Authority themselves making the comparison in the link provided. I think we can safely say ypur response is a clear attempt to distract.

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The article is about the rise of the far right in a German city-not an attempt to characterise the EU as a pseudo-Nazi project.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,635
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The article is about the rise of the far right in a German city-not an attempt to characterise the EU as a pseudo-Nazi project.
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I was merely dispelling your theory about "attempts" to link modern Germany to the Nazis. If Dresden city authorities are doing it themselves...it is a pretty official link

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
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SkyblueBazza said:
I was merely dispelling your theory about "attempts" to link modern Germany to the Nazis. If Dresden city authorities are doing it themselves...it is a pretty official link

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Local neo-Nazis and a pseudo-Nazi German conspiracy to take over Europe are quite different things.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 3, 2019
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Local neo-Nazis and a pseudo-Nazi German conspiracy to take over Europe are quite different things.
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From small acorns grow...

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,638
SkyblueBazza said:
From small acorns grow...

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Does the presence of Tommy Robinson mean the British Empire is on the way back?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,639
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Does the presence of Tommy Robinson mean the British Empire is on the way back?
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No. The presence of JRM does though
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 3, 2019
  • #45,640
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Does the presence of Tommy Robinson mean the British Empire is on the way back?
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Not to me, no

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