We cannot get trade deals signed until we leave the EU. We can agree them in principle, but we would be foolish to make details of them available to all & sundry (except with agreement just to be able to emphasise the point of their possibility)
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EU itself forbids itAnd didn't May's deal also specifically rule out signing any external trade deals?
That we are aware of
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It is just as feasible that there would not be any complaints raised as it is that there would be!
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Thought you'd left.No. But as stated Liam Fox said there would be 40 ready to sign the day after the original March leaving date. By that time there were only 3 ready.
So WTO terms with all but 3 countries until that was sorted. That's would seriously impact the economy.
That's right...tell all those Syrian (to name but one) migrants that. Weapons always seem to find easy passage across borders too...have you noticed that? That's because borders are pretty soft in general Mexico-USA is probably the hardest I can think of, but where there is a will there is a way - & it will be foundIt really isn’t. You cannot have a wide open border.
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Are you pretending not to have a clue or do you really not have a clue?
Is Switzerland a full EU member?
Honest answer for once?
Is Switzerland part of the single market?
Unlucky. You have already been truthful.
So you don't have to be a full member to have different rights. This means things can be negotiated. It isn't just in or out as you constantly make out.
Yes I agree different solutions bring different problems. But as Switzerland shows it isn't one size fits all. But nothing can happen until negotiations start. And after 3 and half years they still haven't started. Would you like to explain why?
That's right...tell all those Syrian (to name but one) migrants that. Weapons always seem to find easy passage across borders too...have you noticed that? That's because borders are pretty soft in general Mexico-USA is probably the hardest I can think of, but where there is a will there is a way - & it will be found
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Thought you'd left.
Keep up Clint, back in the summer it was said there were 12 of 40 continuity agreements in place & recently 15 with a further 6 expected to be rolled over should we leave on 31st October.
And now you will start boring us about how much of our current trade that will be worth. Please don't though...we all know it will leave us short & impact the economy. It will impact others too...and I would still be surprised if no deal was reached
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Which makes perfect senseTell the Syrians that you can’t have an open border for goods? You’re making no sense whatsoever. I know you really, really want Brexit to work, and there are ways that it can, but there’s no point just denying reality and playing make believe.
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Thus was immediately after, amd followed previous discussion. As it's not what i was looking for, I wasn't going to bother finding the earlier articles.It was all known about well in advance. But the politicians of the day were too scared to tell us the truth. We covered this in detail before. We voted on remaining in the EEC because it was all about trade.
Then after the vote the truth slowly came out. It was dripfed slowly. The EEC slowly became the EU. But it was all planned many years before.
Are you pretending not to have a clue or do you really not have a clue?
Is Switzerland a full EU member?
Honest answer for once?
Is Switzerland part of the single market?
Unlucky. You have already been truthful.
So you don't have to be a full member to have different rights. This means things can be negotiated. It isn't just in or out as you constantly make out.
Yes I agree different solutions bring different problems. But as Switzerland shows it isn't one size fits all. But nothing can happen until negotiations start. And after 3 and half years they still haven't started. Would you like to explain why?
No I haven't changed my time. You don't like my tune so you choose to listen to the tune you like. You refuse to give my tune a chance.
Thought you'd left.
Keep up Clint, back in the summer it was said there were 12 of 40 continuity agreements in place & recently 15 with a further 6 expected to be rolled over should we leave on 31st October.
And now you will start boring us about how much of our current trade that will be worth. Please don't though...we all know it will leave us short & impact the economy. It will impact others too...and I would still be surprised if no deal was reached
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That's right...tell all those Syrian (to name but one) migrants that. Weapons always seem to find easy passage across borders too...have you noticed that? That's because borders are pretty soft in general Mexico-USA is probably the hardest I can think of, but where there is a will there is a way - & it will be found
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Nothing over the last 3yrs has mattered a great deal. It is what happens in the next week or two that that does. And if we get an extension only the two or 3wks before that runs out will matter too.
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I see lots of angry remoaners , the same way as you see leavers . Do the remainers know what they voted for other than to keep things the same , whatever that involves ? I don't think so.
Are you pretending not to have a clue or do you really not have a clue?
Is Switzerland a full EU member?
Honest answer for once?
Is Switzerland part of the single market?
Unlucky. You have already been truthful.
So you don't have to be a full member to have different rights. This means things can be negotiated. It isn't just in or out as you constantly make out.
Yes I agree different solutions bring different problems. But as Switzerland shows it isn't one size fits all. But nothing can happen until negotiations start. And after 3 and half years they still haven't started. Would you like to explain why?
This shows such a poor understanding of international trade negotiations and EU negotiations in particular.
it takes an average of 18 months to negotiate a trade deal and just short of 4 years to implement, (that's based on US negotiations with its partners). This has all been posted on this thread before but people just choose to ignore the facts.
That's right...tell all those Syrian (to name but one) migrants that. Weapons always seem to find easy passage across borders too...have you noticed that? That's because borders are pretty soft in general Mexico-USA is probably the hardest I can think of, but where there is a will there is a way - & it will be found
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Marvellous history lesson - thanksThe Mexico-US border is only hard in one direction. America virtually waves everyone through entering Mexico. El Paso has the most gun shops per capita than any other town in America. Reason being Americans buy guns legally in El Paso, cross the border unchecked and then sell the gun on the illegal Mexican black market at a profit. The irony being it’s fuelled gun crime in Mexico contributing to the flow of migrants trying to enter the USA illegally to escape the organised crime and dangers that go with that.
Yep that is another hard one. No personal experience of either myself.Israel Palestine says hi
I am referring to getting the Brexit deal doneThis shows such a poor understanding of international trade negotiations and EU negotiations in particular.
That’s existing trade deals as EU members not new trade deals.
I am back at that point where i am thinking 'fuck it, let it happen'.
Let all these cocksure 'fuck the experts' clowns reap what they sow. They certainly don't listen to reason so i think the only thing that might, just might, weaken their resolve is to let all the shit hit all the fans.
Pre-2016 something like 6% of people thought membership of the eu concerned them. Now, it's probably close to 100. Something has to give. Let them have their precious brexit.
The thing is they won’t reap what they sow. We will.
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What? They are the number of rollover agreements, to continue trading as we do currently, with said countries post-Brexit. They aren't new deals because we cannot sign new deals yet.
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Marvellous history lesson - thanks
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What? They are the number of rollover agreements, to continue trading as we do currently, with said countries post-Brexit. They aren't new deals because we cannot sign new deals yet.
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On the BBC news they've just referred to Merkel as "torpedoing" the deal and that she's "blown it out of the water"
It's a bit of an unfortunate choice of wording when you think about it !
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