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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,976
martcov said:
Yes.
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Germany of course has very little ability to bomb anything having had the worst defence minister in their lost war history according to the Germans

Remind me what does she do now?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,977
martcov said:
Yes, quite. It would be, but that is not my position.
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So you think an Eu army could force troops in a war with Putin against NATO directives which could bring a world war with the US likely to be fighting against Europe?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,978
Grendel said:
Has Boris Johnson had a conviction in a court of law?
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Apropos BoJo the clown lying, or let’s be charitable, not checking his facts: British rules to blame for kipper ‘plastic ice pillow’ that Boris Johnson blamed on EU in bizarre rant

Classic cock up by someone too lazy to check facts..
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,979
martcov said:
All opposition parties want to reverse some decisions, the flawed ones, or at least amend them. That’s why they are called the opposition.
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Which are a minority
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,980
martcov said:
Apropos BoJo the clown lying, or let’s be charitable, not checking his facts: British rules to blame for kipper ‘plastic ice pillow’ that Boris Johnson blamed on EU in bizarre rant

Classic cock up by someone too lazy to check facts..
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I’ll ask for a third time had he had a criminal conviction
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,981
Grendel said:
So you think an Eu army could force troops in a war with Putin against NATO directives which could bring a world war with the US likely to be fighting against Europe?
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Carry on making things up. I am not saying anything, apart from there has been no talk of doing away with NATO, but people are wary of what comes next from Trump on the subject.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,982
Grendel said:
Because it is a sneering elitist attempt to usurp democracy - it’s exactly how Nazi Germany would behave
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What nonsense.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,983
Grendel said:
I’ll ask for a third time had he had a criminal conviction
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Doesn’t alter anything. He won’t be convicted for this crap either.

He has been sacked twice for lying and is constantly exposed for his lies. He has constantly lied to and betrayed his wife and his mistresses.

But, he has not been convicted. That makes him honest or what?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,984
Sick Boy said:
What nonsense.
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So you think revoking a treaty that 83% of the voters at the last election voted for is not an act of autocracy over democracy?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,985
martcov said:
Doesn’t alter anything. He won’t be convicted for this crap either.

He has been sacked twice for lying and is constantly exposed for his lies. He has constantly lied to and betrayed his wife and his mistresses.

But, he has not been convicted. That makes him honest or what?
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Has someone had a criminal prosecution amongst the recently elected Eu hierarchy?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,986
Grendel said:
Which are a minority
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The opposition is a minority until it becomes the majority in an election, or in a people’s vote. Then you BXP voters and the Tories become the opposition.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,987
Grendel said:
Has someone had a criminal prosecution amongst the recently elected Eu hierarchy?
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Yes. What has that got to do with BoJo the Clown‘s latest blunder or your anti German racist comments?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,988
Grendel said:
So you think revoking a treaty that 83% of the voters at the last election voted for is not an act of autocracy over democracy?
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That’s a red herring ( or maybe these days .. a Kipper). The parties are not like your BXP which stood on one issue at the EU elections. To read into it that everyone who voted labour did so because they wanted to leave and it had nothing to do with a surge in popularity of Corbyn is really pushing the limits of credibility.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,989
martcov said:
Doesn’t alter anything. He won’t be convicted for this crap either.

He has been sacked twice for lying and is constantly exposed for his lies. He has constantly lied to and betrayed his wife and his mistresses.

But, he has not been convicted. That makes him honest or what?
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So lies and affairs make people unfit for office?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,990
martcov said:
That’s a red herring ( or maybe these days .. a Kipper). The parties are not like your BXP which stood on one issue at the EU elections. To read into it that everyone who voted labour did so because they wanted to leave and it had nothing to do with a surge in popularity of Corbyn is really pushing the limits of credibility.
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How many stood on revoking article 50?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,991
martcov said:
Yes. What has that got to do with BoJo the Clown‘s latest blunder or your anti German racist comments?
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So what’s worse in your view — a criminal or a non criminal
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,992
Grendel said:
Because it is a sneering elitist attempt to usurp democracy - it’s exactly how Nazi Germany would behave
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NAZI Germany came about by targeting a perceived enemy, discrediting the government, calling the press lying press, calling the authorities the enemy of the people, spreading propaganda, staging mass rallies all over the country with theatrical presentations with patriotic music with the leader, a man of the people walking through chanting crowds with their arms held in the air...

Seem familiar?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,993
Grendel said:
So what’s worse in your view — a criminal or a non criminal
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The option is BoJo or Hunt. In reality BoJo. He will be responsible for the governing the UK. That is the worse case.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,994
Grendel said:
How many stood on revoking article 50?
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It wasn’t an issue. Corbyn had a manifesto which appealed to many younger voters.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,995
Grendel said:
Germany of course has very little ability to bomb anything having had the worst defence minister in their lost war history according to the Germans

Remind me what does she do now?
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Germany is not interested in bombing people. VderL has a program to put together and carry out. Let’s see what happens. I’d rather have her in charge than BoJo.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,996
martcov said:
NAZI Germany came about by targeting a perceived enemy, discrediting the government, calling the press lying press, calling the authorities the enemy of the people, spreading propaganda, staging mass rallies all over the country with theatrical presentations with patriotic music with the leader, a man of the people walking through chanting crowds with their arms held in the air...

Seem familiar?
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Yes it sounds like the remain campaign
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,997
martcov said:
It wasn’t an issue. Corbyn had a manifesto which appealed to many younger voters.
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Did it? How many young voters voted for him as a percentage of the total?
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,998
Grendel said:
The nazi in you speaks
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It’s stupid shit like this that puts me off coming to this thread. Grow the fuck up.


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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #37,999
Grendel said:
So lies and affairs make people unfit for office?
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In the extreme, yes. BoJo is the extreme as is Trump. Unfit to govern.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,000
martcov said:
The racist twats on here...
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You really are one nasty little piece of work aren’t you.

I don’t believe there’s a single racist on this forum yet you regularly throw the deeply offensive term around at anyone and everyone from the safety of your keyboard.

Would you say it to these cov supporting ‘Racist Twats’ if they walked into your Strongbow Pub in Kiel?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,001
Grendel said:
Yes it sounds like the remain campaign
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When did Farage campaign to remain?!
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,002
djr8369 said:
It’s stupid shit like this that puts me off coming to this thread. Grow the fuck up.


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The notion of the revocation of article 50 as a single act without a democratic process is totally anti democratic - it’s not me that needs to grow up.

Have you read Savouris book on the EU which I believe successfully argues that the Eu project is the 4th Reich?
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,003
Grendel said:
Yes it sounds like the remain campaign
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An absurd and obvious attempt to accuse the opposition of what you are guilty of.

I see you’ve been paying attention to your facist friend Trump.

Grendel, occasionally you speak sense. It’s just a shame you’re such an angry, racist bigot who too often follows his darkest urges rather than his brain.


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djr8369

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  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,004
Grendel said:
The notion of the revocation of article 50 as a single act without a democratic process is totally anti democratic - it’s not me that needs to grow up.

Have you read Savouris book on the EU which I believe successfully argues that the Eu project is the 4th Reich?
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Revolving A50 doesn’t go against the vote it just removes the time pressure.

Have you read any books on the flat earth theory? I understand they successfully argue the world is flat.


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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,005
Grendel said:
Yes it sounds like the remain campaign
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Have the remain side said „enemies of the people“, discredited the government ( besides criticism), organised rallies with e.g. air raid sirens to invoke a wartime us v them atmosphere, theatrical event style stage presentations whereby the sheep have to wave blue lights in the air whilst chanting the leader‘s name or asked their members to send their „youngsters“ to see war films with a heroic message?

Wigmore is on record for admiring NAZI propaganda methods. And the leader used the set up of a Nazi poster for his Breaking Point poster.

Banks has said he „led people up the garden path „ to get the result.

And you ask me about remain? FFS. You criticised Tony for one time voting for the Leader when he was leader of UKIP.

Now you are a proud BXP voter, partly responsible for the motley collection of dodgy businessmen now elected as MEPs.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,006
martcov said:
Have the remain side said „enemies of the people“, discredited the government ( besides criticism), organised rallies with e.g. air raid sirens to invoke a wartime us v them atmosphere, theatrical event style stage presentations whereby the sheep have to wave blue lights in the air whilst chanting the leader‘s name or asked their members to send their „youngsters“ to see war films with a heroic message?

Wigmore is on record for admiring NAZI propaganda methods. And the leader used the set up of a Nazi poster for his Breaking Point poster.

Banks has said he „led people up the garden path „ to get the result.

And you ask me about remain? FFS. You criticised Tony for one time voting for the Leader when he was leader of UKIP.

Now you are a proud BXP voter, partly responsible for the motley collection of dodgy businessmen now elected as MEPs.
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Yeah but the remain camp want to usurp democracy by having another vote that isn’t tainted by illegal activity.

Oh how awful.


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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,007
SIR ERNIE said:
You really are one nasty little piece of work aren’t you.

I don’t believe there’s a single racist on this forum yet you regularly throw the deeply offensive term around at anyone and everyone from the safety of your keyboard.

Would you say it to these cov supporting ‘Racist Twats’ if they walked into your Strongbow Pub in Kiel?
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We have a policy. The same sort of people are members of the HSV Supporters Club. My pub is the official HSV Supporters Club Pub in Kiel. We have the football slogan „ show racism the red card“ as our motto. We cannot stop people having their opinions. We don’t want to stop them. But.. if they start on about racism or Nazi themes, they are automatically ejected. The same would apply to any City fan coming to my pub.

I come from the era when „Paki bashing and queer bashing“ were part of the football scene. I am not naive and I can sense that some on this forum know more about this than is healthy. It would be naive to think that CCFC is a haven for angels.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,008
djr8369 said:
An absurd and obvious attempt to accuse the opposition of what you are guilty of.

I see you’ve been paying attention to your facist friend Trump.

Grendel, occasionally you speak sense. It’s just a shame you’re such an angry, racist bigot who too often follows his darkest urges rather than his brain.


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I agree that Grendel occasionally talks sense. Others on here virtually never talk sense. At least they have an excuse, but Grendel should actually know better.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,009
Grendel said:
The notion of the revocation of article 50 as a single act without a democratic process is totally anti democratic - it’s not me that needs to grow up.

Have you read Savouris book on the EU which I believe successfully argues that the Eu project is the 4th Reich?
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No. And I am not bothered as the EU has nothing like the concept of the 3. Reich. To be a Reich you have to have an emperor or some figurehead. E.g. Queen Victoria, Empress of India or Kaiser Wilhelm. You also have a country as ruler of colonies. Nothing like that exists.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2019
  • #38,010
SIR ERNIE said:
You really are one nasty little piece of work aren’t you.

I don’t believe there’s a single racist on this forum yet you regularly throw the deeply offensive term around at anyone and everyone from the safety of your keyboard.

Would you say it to these cov supporting ‘Racist Twats’ if they walked into your Strongbow Pub in Kiel?
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Careful Ernie. Two more of these in quick succession and you'll be labelled a troll.
 
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