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Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

It’s well known that this forum has a mixture of the following in equal proportions

1. Halfwits and simpletons (most seemingly oblivious to their condition)
2. People with Great insight and common sense
3. Thoughtfulness and caring
4. Comedy genius
5. Expertise on all subjects ..and I mean all

But no matter which group you belong to we all have an amount of knowledge about our great club going back decades. It is this I now call on to help solve my problem!!
I tried posting a picture before but misplaced it. But lockdown has helped me find it.
I have a football that I need to date.....I tried the club historian but it was not his thing... so my last hope is SBT.
Do you recognise any of these signatures /autographs so I can put a year/season to a football won years ago in an auction

Thanks all for any help you can give

clint van damme · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
It’s well known that this forum has a mixture of the following in equal proportions

1. Halfwits and simpletons (most seemingly oblivious to their condition)
2. People with Great insight and common sense
3. Thoughtfulness and caring
4. Comedy genius
5. Expertise on all subjects ..and I mean all

But no matter which group you belong to we all have an amount of knowledge about our great club going back decades. It is this I now call on to help solve my problem!!
I tried posting a picture before but misplaced it. But lockdown has helped me find it.
I have a football that I need to date.....I tried the club historian but it was not his thing... so my last hope is SBT.
Do you recognise any of these signatures /autographs so I can put a year/season to a football won years ago in an auction

Thanks all for any help you can give

I'd like to see a Venn diagram displaying 1 and 5

rob9872 · Apr 14, 2020

Reading their website, I'd say that's a retro ball post 1990 under the new ownership. There is a story about the history. In fairness for an old looking ball, it does look in remarkably good condition and I'm not sure the signing of new balls was a thing back in the day, so I'd guess much newer, but have been known to be wrong before and on any given day, could comfortably fit into all 5 of the categories of poster listed above
http://www.seanarnoldantiques.co.uk/page19.html

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Apr 14, 2020

That autograph clearly says Dula Zulu, if that's any help.
I had Peter Hindley's autograph several times from the 1970s and for some reason he always wrote "Tits Wilderley"

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
It’s well known that this forum has a mixture of the following in equal proportions

1. Halfwits and simpletons (most seemingly oblivious to their condition)
2. People with Great insight and common sense
3. Thoughtfulness and caring
4. Comedy genius
5. Expertise on all subjects ..and I mean all

But no matter which group you belong to we all have an amount of knowledge about our great club going back decades. It is this I now call on to help solve my problem!!
I tried posting a picture before but misplaced it. But lockdown has helped me find it.
I have a football that I need to date.....I tried the club historian but it was not his thing... so my last hope is SBT.
Do you recognise any of these signatures /autographs so I can put a year/season to a football won years ago in an auction

Thanks all for any help you can give

Could you put up pictures of some of the other signatures?

Otis · Apr 14, 2020

This I guess is around 1970-72. All white balls. Has to be 1960's at the very latest, but I am thinking maybe before that.

Can't make that signature out at all. Maybe if you show a few we might pick one up.

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

Sorry my internet crashed .... I’ll add some more

shmmeee · Apr 14, 2020

clint van damme said:
I'd like to see a Venn diagram displaying 1 and 5

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

And some more....thanks for the responses guys

wingy · Apr 14, 2020

Does that last one say the Saint
Ian St John?

Otis · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
Sorry my internet crashed .... I’ll add some more

Unbeknownst to me, it seems we had a lot of Arabic players back then.

hill83 · Apr 14, 2020

Otis said:
All white balls

The shorts are short, but not that short.

chiefdave · Apr 14, 2020

rob9872 said:
I'm not sure the signing of new balls was a thing back in the day

That's a good point. Maybe the former players association could help.

Sbarcher · Apr 14, 2020

Otis said:
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This I guess is around 1970-72. All white balls. Has to be 1960's at the very latest, but I am thinking maybe before that.

Can't make that signature out at all. Maybe if you show a few we might pick one up.

Can't ever remember them playing in school socks.

shepardo01 · Apr 14, 2020

Right, have done no research into the ball manufacturer but;
Looking at the picture and the hand in comparison, the ball does not look like a size 5, even deflated.
Suggests it could be a souvenir ball, old school style.
Also, looks like a marker/sharpie type signature, suggesting it *could* be an old style replica ball with a couple of recent (ish) signatures on it. No idea who though.....

EalingSB · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
And some more....thanks for the responses guys

Terry Yorath? Obviously looks like the ball massively pre-dates him, though.

EDIT: just checked his autograph on other sites and it doesn't look like this.

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

Thought this was PUSB written incorrectly!!!

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

One last one

shepardo01 · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
One last one

The fact they have included numbers next to signatures also suggests these are recent...only really done this since squad numbers have been at thing....

WILS1972 · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
And some more....thanks for the responses guys

looks like Steve Staunton 18

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

shepardo01 said:
The fact they have included numbers next to signatures also suggests these are recent...only really done this since squad numbers have been at thing....

That’s what I thought.... but I’m struggling to pick out any names. And why get modern players to sign a replica old football.... and then why auction it in front of an idiot like me who cant handle his beer and buys any old tat after a few beers.

WILS1972 · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
One last one

And that will be Craig Pead

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Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

WILS1972 said:
And that will be Craig Pead

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Right that’s done it..... I’m pumping it up and the kids are having a kick around with it this afternoon!!!!!!!

jackdg · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
Thought this was PUSB written incorrectly!!!

Patrick Suffo (8)?

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

Yep

jackdg said:
Patrick Suffo (8)?

good call Jack!

Thanks SBT ..... not quite what I’d hoped but you lot nailed it as expected!!! PUSB

Gosb · Apr 14, 2020

2003/4 was the season that Pead (7), Suffo (8) and Staunton (18) played for the Sky Blues. Finished 12th in what was then Division 1.

oscillatewildly · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
Yep

good call Jack!

Thanks SBT ..... not quite what I’d hoped but you lot nailed it as expected!!! PUSB

Where/when was the auction held? If it was a well known auction company how about archiving their past auctions for lot details? A lot of them do keep this info on their official sites.

shepardo01 · Apr 14, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
That’s what I thought.... but I’m struggling to pick out any names. And why get modern players to sign a replica old football.... and then why auction it in front of an idiot like me who cant handle his beer and buys any old tat after a few beers.

Thought that the "vintage look" might have been more appealing than one of those cheap, plastic looking white autograph balls that you see knocking about.... it obviously worked too!...lol..

Covkid1968# · Apr 14, 2020

shepardo01 said:
Thought that the "vintage look" might have been more appealing than one of those cheap, plastic looking white autograph balls that you see knocking about.... it obviously worked too!...lol..

I have vague recollections of paying £100 .... pfffffffffffff

superskyblue · Apr 16, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
And some more....thanks for the responses guys

One of them looks like Adam Johnson. Not going to be worth a lot with that on it!

oscillatewildly · Apr 16, 2020

superskyblue said:
One of them looks like Adam Johnson. Not going to be worth a lot with that on it!

Hmmm. Another appears to be 'Fred West' and if I'm not mistaken, another the 'Boston Strangler'. Where did you get this ball, Covkid?

JimmyHillsbeard · Apr 16, 2020

Covkid1968# said:
And some more....thanks for the responses guys

the top one there clearly reads:
Steve Staunton 18 which was his squad number in 2003

TTG · Apr 16, 2020

Squad numbers were introduced early-mid 90s so would have to be pretty recent

Covkid1968# · Apr 16, 2020

oscillatewildly said:
Hmmm. Another appears to be 'Fred West' and if I'm not mistaken, another the 'Boston Strangler'. Where did you get this ball, Covkid?

Right place right time for Fred.... grabbed him just before he was cremated at Canley. You’ve rumbled me on the other autograph though ....that Boston strangler one is 100% fake, I asked a complete stranger from a small town in Lincs to sign it for me.

BackRoomRummermill · Apr 16, 2020

oscillatewildly said:
Hmmm. Another appears to be 'Fred West' and if I'm not mistaken, another the 'Boston Strangler'. Where did you get this ball, Covkid?

Don’t forget Harold Shipman !

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