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The Brentford/Brighton model (1 Viewer)

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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #36
skybluecam said:
To get this thread back on track, can someone define what exactly the “Brighton/Brentford model” is?
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Plough hundreds of millions into the club, just not as much as the big clubs
 
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slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #37
Nick said:
We had a scouting system before the current ones...

Ironic you are saying others are wrong.
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There are some on here who seem to suggest changing our newish scouting system, Dean Austin for one will make us better, do you agree ?
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #38
slowpoke said:
There are some on here who seem to suggest changing our newish scouting system, Dean Austin will make us better, do you agree ?
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What's that got to do with what I said?

You said we didn't have scouting before Dean Austin, I said you were incorrect.

Today is Monday, do you agree?
 
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slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #39
skybluecam said:
To get this thread back on track, can someone define what exactly the “Brighton/Brentford model” is?
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Brighton buy develop and then sell on, they sell big every year.
Brentford are a bit different at the moment they don’t have an academy but they hoover up rejects including one from Cov. Talk of them re-starting an academy though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #40
skybluecam said:
To get this thread back on track, can someone define what exactly the “Brighton/Brentford model” is?
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Be funded by professional gamblers
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #41
Deleted member 5849 said:
Be funded by professional gamblers
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Mr Bloom is certainly a canny guy, just how much Brighton FC get from these mega deals we’ll never know.
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #42
Nick said:
What's that got to do with what I said?

You said we didn't have scouting before Dean Austin, I said you were incorrect.

Today is Monday, do you agree?
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I don’t think we had a scouting system anything like what’s being developed now, but that doesn’t really bother me it’s these suggestions that getting rid of Dean Austin will make things better, I take it you agree we should, correct ?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #43
slowpoke said:
I don’t think we had a scouting system anything like what’s being developed now, but that doesn’t really bother me it’s these suggestions that getting rid of Dean Austin will make things better, I take it you agree we should, correct ?
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More doesn’t necessarily mean better
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #44
skybluecam said:
To get this thread back on track, can someone define what exactly the “Brighton/Brentford model” is?
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Buy players cheap and sell for profit. Rinse repeat. We've blown our wad and will be back to freebees and loans in 2 seasons.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #45
Greggs said:
Buy players cheap and sell for profit. Rinse repeat. We've blown our wad and will be back to freebees and loans in 2 seasons.
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So you’re suggesting we don’t follow this model? You want us not to sign cheap players?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #46
slowpoke said:
Mr Bloom is certainly a canny guy, just how much Brighton FC get from these mega deals we’ll never know.
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Thanks for insights.
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #47
skybluecam said:
So you’re suggesting we don’t follow this model? You want us not to sign cheap players?
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We signed Gyokores and Hamer for 2 million combined......but under the new regime we paid 4.5 million for a 5th choice centre half.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #48
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Plough hundreds of millions into the club, just not as much as the big clubs
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Brighton's is something like £400m isn't it

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slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #49
Greggs said:
We signed Gyokores and Hamer for 2 million combined......but under the new regime we paid 4.5 million for a 5th choice centre half.
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Down to Robins then ??
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #50
SlowerThanPlatt said:
More doesn’t necessarily mean better
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Well by my reckoning we have signed eleven players since January how many of them are better than what we had ?
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #51
Greggs said:
We signed Gyokores and Hamer for 2 million combined......but under the new regime we paid 4.5 million for a 5th choice centre half.
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So what on earth are you talking about “models” for then? Aren’t the signings of Hamer and Vik in line with the model?

You’re not happy that we’re not winning games. Fine. But stop trying to apportion blame for it because your logic is clearly lacking.
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #52
skybluecam said:
So what on earth are you talking about “models” for then? Aren’t the signings of Hamer and Vik in line with the model?

You’re not happy that we’re not winning games. Fine. But stop trying to apportion blame for it because your logic is clearly lacking.
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You ain't the brightest are you? We've been incrementally improving for years, spending within our means and making profit from player sales, this season we've spanked millions and millions on players I very much doubt will double or triple in value.
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #53
slowpoke said:
Down to Robins then ??
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Badland
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #54
Greggs said:
You ain't the brightest are you? We've been incrementally improving for years, spending within our means and making profit from player sales, this season we've spanked millions and millions on players I very much doubt will double or triple in value.
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So what are you suggesting we should have done? Spent less? Then moaning myrtles like you would be shitting the forum up with posts about how King pocketed the cash from our sales!

And we have been incrementing it. With the exception of Wright our signings are 2,3,4m instead of the 0-2m we spent in previous years.
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #55
skybluecam said:
So what are you suggesting we should have done? Spent less? Then moaning myrtles like you would be shitting the forum up with posts about how King pocketed the cash from our sales!

And we have been incrementing it. With the exception of Wright our signings are 2,3,4m instead of the 0-2m we spent in previous years.
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OK OK. Explain how we've gone from the lowest spenders in the league to one of the highest (which will be a one off). Hardly incremental. We had 30 million to invest and we've wasted it. I very much doubt we'll get money like that to spend again.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #56
Greggs said:
OK OK. Explain how we've gone from the lowest spenders in the league to one of the highest (which will be a one off). Hardly incremental. We had 30 million to invest and we've wasted it. I very much doubt we'll get money like that to spend again.
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Explain? We sold our two best players (unavoidable when they were both on their last contracted year) and reinvested the money.

What are you suggesting we should have done? Not spent it?
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #57
skybluecam said:
So what are you suggesting we should have done? Spent less? Then moaning myrtles like you would be shitting the forum up with posts about how King pocketed the cash from our sales!

And we have been incrementing it. With the exception of Wright our signings are 2,3,4m instead of the 0-2m we spent in previous years.
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You forget Hyam Fadz O'Hare Hamer, Sheaf and Gyokores cost less combined that Wright. Our new recruitment team must be happy with that. But according to you, that's a good thing. The delusion is sickly.
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #58
skybluecam said:
Explain? We sold our two best players (unavoidable when they were both on their last contracted year) and reinvested the money.

What are you suggesting we should have done? Not spent it?
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Invest it wisely. Low risk high reward. Rather than spunk it all in one window and not be any better.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #59
This forum dosent half go mental after we lose a game
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #60
Greggs said:
Invest it wisely. Low risk high reward. Rather than spunk it all in one window and not be any better.
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Why would we sit on the cash? Again, there would’ve been widespread outrage if we didn’t spend after selling our best players.

If we could reliably sign £10-£20m quality players for £1-2m we would have the best scouting department in the world.

Get a grip.
 
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Greggs

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #61
skybluecam said:
Why would we sit on the cash? Again, there would’ve been widespread outrage if we didn’t spend after selling our best players.

If we could reliably sign £10-£20m quality players for £1-2m we would have the best scouting department in the world.

Get a grip.
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And that's the reason you have a massive overdraft.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #62
Greggs said:
And that's the reason you have a massive overdraft.
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No idea what you’re prattling on about at this point.
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #63
Greggs said:
You ain't the brightest are you? We've been incrementally improving for years, spending within our means and making profit from player sales.
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We are still in profit,
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #64
slowpoke said:
We are still in profit,
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Not sure you get the point. To continue the trend means making profit on the players we have just bought. We might well make some on some of them (Van Ewick maybe).
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #65
Nick said:
Not sure you get the point. To continue the trend means making profit on the players we have just bought. We might well make some on some of them (Van Ewick maybe).
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But the reason we don’t look like profiting right now is they’re not performing, which obviously wasn’t the intention.

If you’re going to criticise the “model” you need to critique the intentions, not the outcomes.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #66
skybluecam said:
But the reason we don’t look like profiting right now is they’re not performing, which obviously wasn’t the intention.

If you’re going to criticise the “model” you need to critique the intentions, not the outcomes.
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Well yeah you can discuss the outcomes and if the model works or not.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #67
skybluecam said:
If you’re going to criticise the “model” you need to critique the intentions, not the outcomes.
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Really? So as long as the idea is 'I hope to sell this person on for more' - whatever else happens is absolutely fine? Odd take.
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #68
Nick said:
Not sure you get the point. To continue the trend means making profit on the players we have just bought. We might well make some on some of them (Van Ewick maybe).
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But we are shopping for the championship if we get promotion to the Premiership chances are we will be in the market for a whole load of new players again and it’s a totally different market.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #69
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Really? So as long as the idea is 'I hope to sell this person on for more' - whatever else happens is absolutely fine? Odd take.
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No. But most of the discussion here is lazy, centred on their lack of performance and with the benefit of hindsight.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2023
  • #70
slowpoke said:
But we are shopping for the championship if we get promotion to the Premiership chances are we will be in the market for a whole load of new players again and it’s a totally different market.
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The players mentioned previously were signed in the Championship too, what are you talking about?
 
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