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Sick Boy
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The overwhelming majority on here were firmly behind him over his employment of Thorn as manager. Surely those who believe that he is one of the most exciting and innovative managers in the country should be giving Ken some credit?
blueflint
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Yes all in the garden was rosy and SISU ruined it, your mummy was right!
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wasn't rosy but a hell of a lot better than now smell the coffee
blueflint
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Are SISU responsible for the reduced gates when the team on the pitch is better than its ever been?
or is it the sort of dicks that stay away and turn their backs on the team because their mummy told them SISU was bad!
Care to defend that?
ok I suppose you are just a wind up!
if they were still at ricoh there would be no drop in gate numbers as fans would come back if this goes on much longer fans won't return
italiahorse
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NO!
in this country innocent until proven guilty.
Define why YOU think SISU = Bad
Orange Ken sitting on the bench?
Innocent until proven guilty but you also say ACL are guilty :claping hands:
grego_gee
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Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
imp:
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
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bigfatronssba
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Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
Can I just ask, do you think its wrong for CCFC to be playing in Northampton? Because the likes of you, RFC, and trueskyblue, all seem to like us playing there. Because of that I have to question your loyalty to your city.
grego_gee
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I don't think I did say that, but if you want to go there....
I could say,
ACL were guilty of trying to hold us on a £1.3m pa rent after we dropped out of the premier league and Championship and
ACL were guilty of taking all our pie money when it was only the draw of the FC that took us there and
ACL were guilty of landing us with a 10pt deduction this season for absolutely no rhyme or reason.
yet ACL seem to have more support on here than the owners of the club that continue to finance the club despite all the shit constantly poured over them
imp:Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
And the gates are lower and people are staying away because of:thinking about::facepalm:
elephanttears
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anyone who has been to sixfields IS a scab, they can never take it back. i could never look at myself in the mirror if i went.
NorthernWisdom
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Think that's more because you're dog ugly, mate.
NorthernWisdom
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RFC and tsb fall safely under the category of mentalist, I believe...
grego_gee
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No I don't think its "right" at all, we should be playing in the stadium that ccfc started to build for itself in Coventry.
Can I just ask you, do you really think SISU took us to Northampton because they wanted to?
imp:Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
I would argue that a lot of people haven't heard of NOPM they are not going because they dont want to go simple.
elephanttears
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i aint your mate you scab
bigfatronssba
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No I don't think its "right" at all, we should be playing in the stadium that ccfc started to build for itself in Coventry.
Can I just ask you, do you really think SISU took us to Northampton because they wanted to?
Yes, they didn't have to take us to Northampton. We have a perfectly good ground in Coventry.
grego_gee
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James Smith
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Yes exactly, people are staying away part of this is because there is an increased costs (both financially and travel time) of getting to 'home' matches and part to do with the fact that our club, Coventry City aren't playing these games in Coventry. Taking 7k to an away game is an excellent show that the support is still there, just not at home whilst we are in self imposed exile in Sixfields.Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
If SISU ended their own campaign of NOPM towards ACL we could be back in Coventry in no time
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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rtfq
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CarpyCov84
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Peolke are staying away because coventry should be playing in coventry it's nothing to do money yesterday should surley show that 7k at an away game...just get us back at the Ricoh SHARPISH !!!
Fine Young Cannibals??
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Jack Griffin
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Are SISU responsible for the reduced gates when the team on the pitch is better than its ever been?
or is it the sort of dicks that stay away and turn their backs on the team because their mummy told them SISU was bad!
Care to defend that?
ok I suppose you are just a wind up!
The team is in the upper reaches of Division 3 on form, that is hardly "better than its ever been".
You are getting confused between the ability of the team and the relative enjoyment of watching a winning team in a lower league over a mediocre team in a higher division.
grego_gee
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They wouldn't let us play there for less than £1.3mpa, they even sued us for the £1.3mpa after they had said £400k would have been reasonable.
How many now think the £1.3m was "right"?
imp:Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Clue the y is you
bigfatronssba
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They wouldn't let us play there for less than £1.3mpa, they even sued us for the £1.3mpa after they had said £400k would have been reasonable.
How many now think the £1.3m was "right"?
Regardless of whether £1.3m is "right", the club is loosing far more by not paying the rent, which in turn will affect FFP, meaning your beloved team will be broken up and sold.
The club simply could have stayed whilst working out a solution with ACL.
RegTheDonk
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No I don't think its "right" at all, we should be playing in the stadium that ccfc started to build for itself in Coventry.
Can I just ask you, do you really think SISU took us to Northampton because they wanted to?
No, I don't think they wanted to take us to Northampton. I think they only took us there because it was the only place the FA would sanction. I think they would have preferred us playing at the Ricoh. But unfortunately, paying the outstanding rent and/or doing a new rental deal did not fit in with their plans.
grego_gee
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Quite right, but you have to judge relative to the conditions you are in, we would probably do better with Ronaldo but we're unlikely to get him through the door, and his wage would probably exceed the whole teams.
but I didn't actually say the football was better than its ever been I said "the team on the pitch is better than its ever been" and I would include the management team in that including Pressley & Waggot - I hesitate to mention Fisher but even he has presided over the changes that have got us here.
We are now without the crippling £1.3mpa rent, we have a better management team and we have a very exciting playing team, despite not having Ronaldo!
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James Smith
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I have said before that the rent was too high, has anyone on here actually said it wasn't? Regarding other offers, are we back to Mr Labovitch and the infamous I can't hear you I'm not an Otium person today situation?They wouldn't let us play there for less than £1.3mpa, they even sued us for the £1.3mpa after they had said £400k would have been reasonable.
How many now think the £1.3m was "right"?
grego_gee
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Plenty on here say we shouldn't have moved, we should have just paid the rent.
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bigfatronssba
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Plenty on here say we shouldn't have moved, we should have just paid the rent.
That would have made financial sense though wouldn't it?
Persuade me that moving to Northampton was better for the club than staying at the Ricoh and paying the rent.
Have you ever heard of HOME GAMES, some clubs have but not in Fishers world. Wake Up.Lets focus on focus on the low gates thing.
Is that Sisus fault? No.
because if we can take 7000 to MK Dons we could take 7000 to Sixfields! - its closer!
Somebody dreamt up NOPM (THAT wasn't SISU) and now its sacrilegious for anybody to cross the Sixfields threshold.
Its every individuals decision to go or not to go, but its coloured by the common perception that its bad to go.
In an untainted world the gates would be higher because the football more than justifies that.
but this perception that SISU are bad and paying for a ticket at Sixfields is a NO-NO can't rely on the argument that SISU are bad because the gates are lower.
The gates are lower because people are staying away.
grego_gee
New Member
There is a price to pay in moving to Northampton and you are right that it would have been cheaper to stay in the short term (if a rent less than £1.3M could have been agreed).
But the cost of moving to Northampton would not be as much if the fans were not staying away in protest and the long term gains from having our own ground and all revenues far outway the cost even with stay-away fans.
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James Smith
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Plenty on here say we shouldn't have moved, we should have just paid the rent.
We weren't paying the rent, that was the start of the original NOPM directed at ACL. It started off about the rent being the major issue and then became other things on top of that, that they needed from ACL when lower rents were offered. Talk about moving the goalposts and I don't mean to Northampton.
